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    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Janszen Wanshaer
    2. Donna Stark
    3. I tried and I found the Wanhauser family link, but no info on Privateers. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Swain" <hswain@ix.netcom.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 11, 2007 3:10 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Janszen Wanshaer > Hi Allan, > > From: <allan.kaufmann@us.army.mil> > Sent: Saturday, March 10, 2007 11:24 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 2, Issue 93 > > >> Dutch Privateers. Can anyone help me locate info on Dutch Privateers? >> Specifically, I am looking for one of my ancestors' ships. Jan Jansen >> Wanshaer >> was part owner in 'La Grace" a frigate from 1644 sailing from New >> Amsterdam. > > First re. Jan Wanshaer. > Since he married Baertje Kip, there is a couple of pages on him in > History of the Kip Family in America by Frederic Ellsworth Kip. > See pp 36-38. > > He is also know as Van St. Obyn, of St. Tobyn, etc. > I agree with Mr. Van Laer (NYHM: Dutch; Register of the Provincial > Secretary vol II, > p. 268) that correct term was probably Van St. Aubin. > Now, which of the several towns named St. Aubin it was, I do not know. > However, on pp. 268-269 of the above book is a receipt that mentions > that Jan Jansen's father is Jan Wansaer residing at "Casant", which > Mr. Van Laer says is "Cadsant, or Kadzant, a village in the province of > Zeeland, Netherlands." > > You may also be interested to know that Jan was born about 1621. > This comes from a deposition that is in NYHM: Dutch; Register of the > Provincial Secretary vol III, pp. 60-61. One of the men testifying is > "Jan Jansen from St. Obyn, aged 27 years." The date of the deposition > was 28 Sept. 1648. > > As to the ship, La Garce, it is mentioned many times in the above > Reg. of the Prov. Sec. vols II and III. And also a few times in > NYHMS: Dutch; Council Minutes (vol IV). > However, even though Mr. Kip says that Jan Janszen Wanshaer > was a part owner of La Garce, I have not been able to verify this. > Mr. Kip also says that Jan sold his interest in the ship in 1646. > I did find that sale in NYHM: Dutch; Register of the Provincial Secretary > vol II, > p. 323-4. However, the seller that might be Jan Wanshaer is > shown only as "Jan Jansz." Since there were several men named > Jan Janszen, I'm not sure which one this is. > > I.N.P. Stokes in his Iconography of Manhattan Island vol II, p. 262-3 > has a brief bio on Jan Jansen van St. Aubin. Although mentioning > other mariner-type activities, he does not mention La Garce. > > Regards, > Howard > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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