Donna: I didn't get the 1850 census. I got the 1860 (2 pages) and the 1900. As far as Voris goes, that is his last name. Listed on the census as Voorhis as Nephew. That is George's wife maiden name Van Voorhies. I have contacted Bruce Hamilton before and got some info from him. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> wrote: did you get the 1850 also. I found a site by Bruce Hamilton that covers the Forshay/Forshee family in New Jersey, bhami@pobox.com. I think you should contact him and see if he can connect your family. Donna Oh No. Voris was not a son, but a nephew. If you see the census and read it cl;osely (I htink 1900) you will see tht is says nephew to head of household. His name was an unusual first name and Voris was his middle name. You should see it on the census record. Thank goodness he is not your ancestor because being born in 1899, with no census, it might be hard to find his parents. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Forshay" To: Sent: Friday, March 16, 2007 7:58 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Meaning of 'Uyt' in the marriage records > Pat: > > You were a great help on my brick wall. I think you put a big whole > in it this time. Again thank you for your help. Another lady is sending me > Census records from Ancestry.com from 1860 & 1900. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > > Pat wrote: Bill; I found in my "The Van voorhees > Family in America", 7th & 8th > generation, vol. 2; > Eva Marion VanVoorhis (Albert7, William6, John 5, Albert 4, William3, > Albert2, Steven1): b.20 Jul 1857 Fenwick, Montcalm Co., MI; m. > George Forshu (sic), son of Henry Forshu and Eliza Jane Tibbetts, 25 Dec > 1877. > George Forshu, b. 19 Dec 1852 > > Two children: > i. Lena Forshu; b. 30 Dec 1878; m. Ward B. Hoople 14 Jun 1905 > ii. Voris Forshu; b. 14 Jan 1899 > > Hope this helps. Now you can look up census records. > Pat in spokane > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Bill Forshay" > To: > Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 2:10 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Meaning of 'Uyt' in the marriage records > > >> Donna: >> >> Do you have anything on a Eva Marion Van Voorhies, b: abt 1855 >> married to George FORSHEE, b: 18 Dec 1852, married 25 Dec 1877? >> >> Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX >> >> Donna Stark wrote: This will be one >> interpretation! One of my families is the Van Voorhees. It >> is known that the family was from in front of the town of Hees >> (pronounced >> Haas-with the H almost silent) thus, the name Van (in front) of the town >> of >> Hees-Van Voorhees >> >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: >> To: >> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:38 AM >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Meaning of 'Uyt' in the marriage records >> >> >>> My reading of the difference between 'uit' and 'van' is this, and I may >>> be >>> wrong: >>> >>> 'van' = from, as in hometown, homeland; a place, if not birthplace, >>> where >>> residence was long-established. >>> >>> 'uit' = 'out of' a place, having departed from a place, that may or may >>> not have been a place of long-established residence, or even short >>> residence. It could have been a brief stopping place, from which the >>> departure was made. In any case it does not carry the sense of >>> belonging >>> to and/or being identified for some reason with a place. >>> >>> I have a 1720s Dutch-English dictionary in the archive for which I'm >>> responsible. It may help - don't know. I am not there now. Ethel, if >>> you'll remind me off-list, I'll check it for you. If others are >>> interested, please speak up. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: THJ >>> Date: Thursday, March 15, 2007 9:18 am >>> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Meaning of 'Uyt' in the marriage records >>> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >>> >>>> In modern Nederlands the spelling is 'uit' and means also >>>> 'from'. However, I'm not sure of the shade of difference in >>>> meaning >>>> between 'uit' and 'van' if any. >>>> >>>> Terry HJ >>>> >>>> >>>> >In the New Amsterdam Dutch Church marriage records, it usually >>>> states the >>>> >bride and groom are either "Uyt" or "Van". "Van N.Yorke" >>>> Uyt >>>> >N. Nederlt" >>>> > "Van Aernhem in Gelderlt" "Uyt Noordt Holldt" "Uyt >>>> Engelt" etc. >>>> > >>>> >I checked my Dutch-English dictionary and Van means from, but >>>> Uyt is not >>>> >listed in the dictionary. 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