Thanks for the info, David. I have visited the sites you mentioned many times to no avail. I have found mention of HOEL/HOLE at other sources but very sporadic and never really more than a mention. I did think they must have been part of the Howell family, but now I really would like to find what became of the ME and NH Hole families. Even that is difficult to find - they just sort of disappear. I am going to try to find out if the NYG&B book is available from them or elsewhere - thank you for mentioning it. Diane * * * * * * ~ ~ ~ ~ Please check our Home Page ~ ~ ~ ~ * * * * * * http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/a/n/d/Sharon-D-Andreasen/ ~~~~~ Speak kind words/hear kind echoes ~~~~~ -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of David Roberts Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 6:43 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com To add to what Howard sent you, you might search http://longislandgenealogy.com There is quite a bit of material on that site. Also RootsWeb has a Suffolk County site and a LongIsland site, but neither are too active. You might post a query on either of those sites. The LIRooters site used to be VERY active but it too has tailed off. There were a couple of Southold "experts" on LIRooters at one time. The NYG&B published a book "Long Island Source Records" some years ago - re-prints of articles from the NYG&B Record. I know that book had a long run of Southold records.