I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is not the first time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both the 1679 "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I transcribed the fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list of four plus "associates"). Chris On 3/29/07, Howard Swain <hswain@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > The complete text of the patent (including the names shown below) is > in William Nelson's History of the City of Paterson and the County > of Passaic New Jersey (1901), pp. 63-65. [Note: this is a different book > from the one Ethel cited. I have found this older one, in general, > more useful. YMMV] This transcription is from the original parchment, > which at the time was in the possession of ex-Judge Simmons of Passaic. > The settlers petitioned the proprietors for the patent on 30 May 1684 and > it was issued on 16 March 1684[/5]. > > Regards, > Howard > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > > From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > > > > Ethel: > > > > The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's "History of Passaic > and > > it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: > > Hans Dederick > > Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] > > Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > Elias Machielson [Vreeland] > > Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] > > Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] > > Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] > > Adrian Post > > Urian Tomason [Van Riper] > > Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] > > Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] > > Cornelius Lubers > > Abraham Bookey > > > > Chris > > > > On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk purchase in > >> Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? > >> > >> The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, > between Captahem > >> Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a certain Prcel of > >> goods, > >> Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . bargained and sold > unto > >> the said > >> Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, Hendrick George and > >> their > >> Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by Captahem, and > attested > >> by > >> the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of Governor Philip > >> Carteret." > >> > >> Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen > >> [Van > >> Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George [Brinkerhoff] > >> "and > >> their Associates" Who are the Associates? > >> > >> Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of Acquackanonk, only > >> three > >> -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." "One of the > >> patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." > [Westervelt] > >> > >> > >> *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by William Nelson > >> and > >> Charles A Shriner > >> Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago 1920 > >> Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. > >> > >> Ethel Kay Konight > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Chris, Nelson's history of Paterson/Passaic was reprinted by Higginson Books (year unspecified). I searched their website this morning, higginsonbooks.com, but I can't find it. I know that Bergen Historic Books (BHB) still carries it - bergenhistoricbooks.com - as well as all (I think) the other major histories local to northern NJ and Rockland NY. I got mine from BHB. Considering your ancestral families in NJ, you should see Nelson or have it. (Note: I have no affiliation with the abovementioned publishers) Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Schopfer Date: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:22 am Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is > not the first > time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is > online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. > > Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both > the 1679 > "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I > transcribed the > fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list > of four plus > "associates"). > > Chris

has anyone had any dealings-good or bad- with genbook source.com? I ordered from them a month ago books said to be in stock. I haven't received it, nor can I get a response to e-mailsfrom the company. When I try to call them, I get a "full mailbox", but never a live person answering the phone. ----- Original Message ----- From: <nancyterhune@optonline.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 6:09 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > Chris, > > Nelson's history of Paterson/Passaic was reprinted by Higginson Books > (year unspecified). I searched their website this morning, > higginsonbooks.com, but I can't find it. I know that Bergen Historic > Books (BHB) still carries it - bergenhistoricbooks.com - as well as all (I > think) the other major histories local to northern NJ and Rockland NY. I > got mine from BHB. Considering your ancestral families in NJ, you should > see Nelson or have it. > > (Note: I have no affiliation with the abovementioned publishers) > > Nancy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Chris Schopfer > Date: Friday, March 30, 2007 1:22 am > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is >> not the first >> time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is >> online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. >> >> Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both >> the 1679 >> "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I >> transcribed the >> fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list >> of four plus >> "associates"). >> >> Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >