Nelson's book is available online at ripernet.com. Click on "Van Riper" (lefthand side of page), then click on "Nelson's Book." Sue Van Riper-Connolly ****************************************************************************** I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is not the first time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both the 1679 "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I transcribed the fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list of four plus "associates"). Chris On 3/29/07, Howard Swain <hswain@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > The complete text of the patent (including the names shown below) is > in William Nelson's History of the City of Paterson and the County > of Passaic New Jersey (1901), pp. 63-65. [Note: this is a different book > from the one Ethel cited. I have found this older one, in general, > more useful. YMMV] This transcription is from the original parchment, > which at the time was in the possession of ex-Judge Simmons of Passaic. > The settlers petitioned the proprietors for the patent on 30 May 1684 and > it was issued on 16 March 1684[/5]. > > Regards, > Howard > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > > From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > > > > Ethel: > > > > The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's "History of Passaic > and > > it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: > > Hans Dederick > > Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] > > Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > Elias Machielson [Vreeland] > > Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] > > Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] > > Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] > > Adrian Post > > Urian Tomason [Van Riper] > > Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] > > Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] > > Cornelius Lubers > > Abraham Bookey > > > > Chris > > > > On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk purchase in > >> Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? > >> > >> The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, > between Captahem > >> Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a certain Prcel of > >> goods, > >> Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . bargained and sold > unto > >> the said > >> Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, Hendrick George and > >> their > >> Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by Captahem, and > attested > >> by > >> the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of Governor Philip > >> Carteret." > >> > >> Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen > >> [Van > >> Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George [Brinkerhoff] > >> "and > >> their Associates" Who are the Associates? > >> > >> Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of Acquackanonk, only > >> three > >> -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." "One of the > >> patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." > [Westervelt] > >> > >> > >> *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by William Nelson > >> and > >> Charles A Shriner > >> Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago 1920 > >> Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. > >> > >> Ethel Kay Konight > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Unless I'm mistaken, it is only the 'Van Riper chapter' of the Nelson book that is on ripernet.com Perhaps the entire book exists online somewhere else, but I've never heard of it. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Sbvrc@aol.com Date: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:57 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees To: Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com > Nelson's book is available online at ripernet.com. Click on > "Van Riper" > (lefthand side of page), then click on "Nelson's Book." > > Sue Van Riper-Connolly > > ****************************************************************************** > > I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is > not the first > time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is > online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. > > Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both > the 1679 > "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I > transcribed the > fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list > of four plus > "associates"). > > Chris > > On 3/29/07, Howard Swain wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The complete text of the patent (including the names shown > below) is > > in William Nelson's History of the City of Paterson and the County > > of Passaic New Jersey (1901), pp. 63-65. [Note: this is a > different book > > from the one Ethel cited. I have found this older one, in general, > > more useful. YMMV] This transcription is from the original > parchment,> which at the time was in the possession of ex-Judge > Simmons of Passaic. > > The settlers petitioned the proprietors for the patent on 30 > May 1684 and > > it was issued on 16 March 1684[/5]. > > > > Regards, > > Howard > > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > > > > > > From: "Chris Schopfer" > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:05 AM > > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > > > > > > > Ethel: > > > > > > The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's > "History of Passaic > > and > > > it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: > > > Hans Dederick > > > Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] > > > Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > > Elias Machielson [Vreeland] > > > Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] > > > Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] > > > Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] > > > Adrian Post > > > Urian Tomason [Van Riper] > > > Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] > > > Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > > John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] > > > Cornelius Lubers > > > Abraham Bookey > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk > purchase in > > >> Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? > > >> > > >> The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, > > between Captahem > > >> Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a > certain Prcel of > > >> goods, > > >> Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . > bargained and sold > > unto > > >> the said > > >> Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, > Hendrick George and > > >> their > > >> Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by > Captahem, and > > attested > > >> by > > >> the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of > Governor Philip > > >> Carteret." > > >> > > >> Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, > Gerrit Gerritsen > > >> [Van > > >> Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George > [Brinkerhoff]> >> "and > > >> their Associates" Who are the Associates? > > >> > > >> Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of > Acquackanonk, only > > >> three > > >> -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." > "One of the > > >> patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." > > [Westervelt] > > >> > > >> > > >> *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by > William Nelson > > >> and > > >> Charles A Shriner > > >> Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago > 1920 > > >> Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. > > >> > > >> Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >