Thanks to all who answered my query on Wanamaker. I asked for the source of the marriage record of Dietrich Wanamaker and his first wife Anna Margarethe Luz. See 'The Palatine Families of New York' by Henry Jones, page 1062. "By his 1st wife Anna Margaretha Luz, formerly of Lengfeld aus dem Waldeckschen - a maid servant at Leeheim, whom he married Thursday after...Ephip.: 1709 at Leeheim." If Epiphany is January 6, any idea what the date is the Thursday after Epiphany? Their first child is bp 27 August 1710 in New York. Rev Kocherthal Records. "In the same year, having returned to the province, I baptized the following at New York:" Johann Michael, child of Johann Dietrich and Anna Margretha Wanenmacher; sponsor: Michael Storr. Baptized: 27 August 1710. Rev. Kocherthal Records The Book of Names [McWethy p.17] Dietrich Wannemacher is on the 1 July 1710 New York Hunter List. [Even More Palatine Families, by Henry Jones p.1783] Most of the Palatines boarded ships for New York in December 1909 and never left England until April 1710. They sailed on eleven ships. Arrived the summer of 1710 in New York. Timeline: Married January 1709 in Leeheim. Among the poor souls sitting in the harbor Dec 1909 til April 1710. Arrive in New York the Summer of 1710. July 1710 on Hunter list in New York. August 1710, first child bp in New York. Additions and/or corrections to my timeline welcome. Howard, you will love this story. Howard Swain wrote "Your best source for Palatines to New York would be Henry Z. Jones' three books. In particular his book, Even More Palatine Families, vol. 3 has the best version of the Hunter subsistence lists of 1710 to 1713." I looked at the book More Palatine Families and the Hunter lists were not there. I'm smart enough to know that I must be doing something wrong and finally I noticed the word I overlooked EVEN. I went on another search. Jones wrote The Palatine Families of New York and More Palatine Families and Even More Palatine Families. Suggested title for his next book, 'I Found Even More Palatine Families'. A big thank you to all. Regards, Ethel Kay Konight ========================================= Original message dated 2/18/2007 Adam Wanamaker (Jr). son of Adam Wanamaker (Sr) and Dorothea, married Anna Margaretta and they had six children born in Leeheim, Darmstadt, Germany. I am trying to find the about date when they emigrated to New York and if they were part of the 1708 Palatine migration. Their eldest son Dietrich, bp 4 Oct 1682 in Leeheim, and Anna Margaret Luz, were supposedly married January 1709 by the Rev. J. Kocherthal. I have the West Camp Lutheran Church, NY records by Rev. Kocherthal and the marriage is not recorded in the records. Their first child Michael bp 27 Aug 1710 is entered on page 17. If they were married January 1709, would they be included in the first migration in 1708. Is there a list of the 1708 Palatines. Ethel Source: The Book of Names Especially Relating to the Early Palatines and the First Settlers in the Mohawk Valley. Compiled and Arranged by Lou D MacWethy Gen Pub Co 1969 Among the many records are the Rev Joshua Kocherthal records. [A good book if you have Palatine ancestors.] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Ethel, From: <ETHELKK@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, February 22, 2007 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Wanamaker - Rev Kocherthal records > Thanks to all who answered my query on Wanamaker. > > I asked for the source of the marriage record of Dietrich Wanamaker and his > first wife Anna Margarethe Luz. See 'The Palatine Families of New York' by > Henry Jones, page 1062. "By his 1st wife Anna Margaretha Luz, formerly of > Lengfeld aus dem Waldeckschen - a maid servant at Leeheim, whom he married > Thursday after...Ephip.: 1709 at Leeheim." If Epiphany is January 6, any > idea what the date is the Thursday after Epiphany? First, you have to determine if they were using the Gregorian or Julian calendar. According to The Comprehensive Genealogical Feast Day Calendar by Inger Bukke, et al (FHL micro fiche #6054630), p. 34, by 1700 even the Protestant German states had changed to Gregorian. Now go here: http://www.calendarhome.com/tyc/original.html Choose 1709 and select 1582 for the "Calendar change in year" (to get Gregorian). Then click on Year at a Glance. You will see that Jan 6 is on a Sunday and that the Thursday after that is Jan 10. > Timeline: Married January 1709 in Leeheim. Among the poor souls sitting > in the harbor Dec 1909 til April 1710. Arrive in New York the Summer of > 1710. July 1710 on Hunter list in New York. August 1710, first child bp in > New York. Additions and/or corrections to my timeline welcome. There are also lists of Palatines who crossed from Rotterdam to London in the spring and summer of 1709 in appendices in Knittle. But I did not see your people. Another reference you might want to check is the Publications of the Huguenot Society of London, vol. XXVII, Letters of Denization and Acts of Naturalization... 1701-1800. I don't know if people in the 1709-1710 group got denizations or not. The 1708 Kochertahl partly did and is on pp. 67-68. > Howard, you will love this story. Howard Swain wrote "Your best source for > Palatines to New York would be Henry Z. Jones' three books. In particular > his book, Even More Palatine Families, vol. 3 has the best version of the > Hunter subsistence lists of 1710 to 1713." I looked at the book More Palatine > Families and the Hunter lists were not there. I'm smart enough to know that I > must be doing something wrong and finally I noticed the word I overlooked > EVEN. I went on another search. I thought afterward that I should have emphasized that his 3rd "book" consists of 3 vols. So, I'm glad you found it. My library has his first work of Palatines to NY in the F130s with NY. But the later works are in E184, with general immigration, I guess. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com