Hello Howard. Not surprised to see you on this. See Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig, "1671 Census of the Delaware" (1999, pub Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania), pp 79-80. Dr Craig writes that Peter Groenendyck was arrested in Manhattan in 1673 "for seducing Maria de la Noy and Annetje Blanck, both of whom claimed to be pregnant with his child." Craig gives these references: "Minutes of the Executive Council of Province of New York" 1:169-75; "Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, 43:50"; Baptisms, NY Dutch Church (etc). Pieter Groenendyck was ordered to pay each woman 150 beavers as well as a 75-beaver fine. I would like to know the location of the alleged NJ marriage to Maria De La Noy, if anyone could come up with that through one of these sources above Thanks & Best wishes, Liz J

Hi Liz, From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2007 11:49 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Pieter Groenendyck (was: Need New Term forTodays Relationships) > Hello Howard. Not surprised to see you on this. > > See Dr. Peter Stebbins Craig, "1671 Census of the Delaware" (1999, pub > Genealogical Society of Pennsylvania), pp 79-80. Dr Craig writes that > Peter Groenendyck was arrested in Manhattan in 1673 "for seducing > Maria de la Noy and Annetje Blanck, both of whom claimed to be > pregnant with his child." Craig gives these references: > "Minutes of the Executive Council of Province of New York" 1:169-75; > "Genealogical Magazine of New Jersey, 43:50"; Baptisms, NY Dutch > Church (etc). > > Pieter Groenendyck was ordered to pay each woman 150 beavers as well > as a 75-beaver fine. > > I would like to know the location of the alleged NJ marriage to Maria > De La Noy, if anyone could come up with that through one of these > sources above I was right; the marriage is in the GMNJ you cite. It is a short article (pp. 49-51) by Kenn Stryker-Rodda that lists 41 marriages and marriage licenses that had been recorded in the East Jersey Deed Books, but were not listed in vols 21 or 22 of the printed New Jersey Archives. Most had not been previously published. For this one it shows: "Gronnendyck, Peter, of Serven Haagken in Holland, and Maria de la Noy, daughter of Braham de la Noy of Harlem in said province, married 16 of 5, 1673." Since other records in this list show double dates for the first part of March, I would assume that 5 month above is July. It appears most are in the 1670's. Many were married by James Bollen, Justice. Unfortunately, yours doesn't show who married them or where. I glanced over your Executive Council reference. It is clear from that that he had gotten both women pregnant. And also that the Council forbade him from marrying either one. Maybe that's why he ran off to Jersey to get married. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com