Original message dated 2/19/2007 barbarademare@yahoo.com writes: Thank you, Howard for your wonderful explanation. It is what I believed, but had no time to look up. The question interested me because of the Darmstadt connection. I think I have ancestors from there (although I can't find them off hand), and was wondering how you obtained the records from the Darmstadt church. Barbara ----------------------------------- Barbara, The Darmstadt connection is from The Palatine Families of New York by Henry Z Jones, Jr p. 1061,1062. I do not have Darmstadt church records. DIETRICH WANNEMACHER (Hunter Lists #781) "John Dietrich Wannenmacher of Leheim in Darmstad married Anna Kunigunda Kernmann, daughter of Johann of the same place on 29 Nov 1710. (West Camp Lutheran Chbk.). The German roots of this N.J. family then were at 6086 Leeheim (15 km. west of Darmstadt; Chbks. begin 1611, but gaps). . ." [p.1061] "By his 1st wife Anna Margaretha Luz, formerly of Lengfeld aus dem Waldeckschen - a maid servant at Leeheim, whom he married Thursday after...Ephip.: 1709 at Leeheim." [p.1062] Ethel Kay Konight <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.