My mistake, I had mis-recalled that Trier was the German name for Trieste. In fact, there are (at least) two cities of names such as these in Europe--Trier in Germany and Trieste in Italy. I notice that Trier is only about 30 miles from the Belgian border (with Luxembourg between). It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Walloons such as the du Trieuxs may have come from there. But please note that this is conjecture on my part, except for the single baptism record I mentioned. Can anyone tell us the meaning of "du" in such names as du Trieux, du Chesne, du Cloux, etc.? Chris On 5/1/07, Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> wrote: > > There is a Trier in Germany, It is possible they were French and escaped > to > Germany and Marie was born there.??? (My husband was in the AF and we > visited Trier often, it was an old Roman ruins but interesting to see. I > climbed over 100 stairs in high heels. Very tired afterwards. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> > To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:16 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Isaac du Trieux,son of Phillippe Jr or > Phillippe Sr? > > > > There was also another Philipe, b 3 Jan 1616, who evidently died young. > > Marie was baptized as "Marije" on 5 April 1617, but the father's name is > > spelled "du Trier". If this was properly transcribed, I wonder if > > indicates that the family had emigrated from Trieste. > > > > To add to Howard's point about the 1642 baptisms not differentiating > > between > > Jr and Sr, even if the father were Phillipe Jr, Phillippe Sr. is > > conspicuously absent as a sponsor--Isaac would have been his first > > Trieux-named grandson. And it seems odd that Phillipe Jr. wouldn't have > > baptized one of his first two sons as Phillipe, although it's of course > > plausible that there had been one earlier. > > > > Does anyone know if there were "Juniors" (sons by the same given name of > > men > > with surnames) about the 1640s who baptized children, and if so, whether > > and > > how the NA church distinguished them from their fathers? I looked > quickly > > at > > Guillaume Vigne, Joris Rapalje, Hendrick Spier, and Jesse de Foreest, > but > > surprisingly didn't see a single "Jr." among them. > > > > > > Was the 1652 Indian incident documented well enough to indicate whether > > Phillippe Jr. had a wife who was killed at the same time, or is the only > > evidence that Phillipe Jr. was married the circumstance of the two > births > > in > > the 1640s? > > > > Finally, is Jacomyntje the feminine form of Jacob? I'm wondering if > Jacob > > b > > 1645 was named for Jacomyntje/Jacquemyntje. If Jacob was in fact > Phillipe > > Jr.'s son, such a given name might make sense as a way to honor > Jacomyntje > > Noiret without interfering with the tradition of naming daughters after > > the > > female ancestors of Phillippe Jr's wife. > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > On 4/29/07, EShampang@aol.com <EShampang@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> I also have Du Trieux in my indirect line and have these two children > of > >> Philipe Sr. & Jacqueline. Does anyone know if this child named > Madeleine > >> is > >> "Maria/Marie" or another daughter? > >> Source: > >> > >> > _http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/zoek_ > >> ( > http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/zoek > >> ) > >> > >> > >> Kind: > >> Madeleine > >> vader > >> Philippe du Trieux > >> doop > >> 9 februari 1620 > >> religie > >> Waals-Hervormd, Oude Waalse kerk > >> bron 130 p.98 > >> > >> > >> Kind: > >> Phlipe > >> vader > >> Philippe du Trieux > >> doop > >> 10 februari 1619 > >> religie > >> Waals-Hervormd, Oude Waalse kerk > >> bron 130 p.81 > >> > >> > >> > >> ************************************** See what's free at > >> http://www.aol.com. > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > >> body > >> of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >