Jr. was not commonly used in New Netherlands until somewhat later. According to my notes. Philippe Du Treiux was born about 1586 at Roubaix, near Lille, French Flanders and was consider a Walloon. There were two children named Philippe. The Second one is presumed to have survived. I have two descents through this line , two from Maria and one from Rebecca. There have been arguments on whether the father of Isaac and Jacob was father or son forever. I checked all of my research material..Noone really agrees on this. Steph

Hi all, From: "Thomas Hochuli" <thochuli@cfl.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:23 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Isaac du Trieux,son of Phillippe Jr or Phillippe Sr? > Jr. was not commonly used in New Netherlands until somewhat later. > According to my notes. Philippe Du Treiux was born about 1586 at Roubaix, > near Lille, French Flanders and was consider a Walloon. Yes. See "The House of Truax" (continued), ed. by Howard S. F. Randolph in NYGBR 58:76-78. His marriage intentions at Amsterdam show he was born at "Robey", which is taken to mean Roubaix. Also see "Phillippe DuTrieux" in NYGBR 45:51-53. (The first article also shows that Jaquemyne Noirett was the dau. of Arnould Noirett and Barbe du Chesne -- from marr. int.) Also, at the start of Mr. Randloph's series of articles NYGBR 57:208, he mentions that on April 22, 1601, that Jaquemyne, widow of Philippe du Trieu was received into the Walloon Church at Leyden by letter from Norwich, England. It is speculated that these might be the Parents of Phillip who came to NN. (Also see The DeForests of Avesnes, p. 188-189; this is online at HeritageQuest.) There was quite a community of Walloons at Norwich, as I recall. The records of the Walloon Church at Norwich (1565-1832) have been published as vol 1 of Publications of the Huguenot Society of London. I wonder if anyone has checked this. Perhaps the Du Trieux family originated in one of the towns named Trieux in Belgium. See: http://www.fallingrain.com/world/BE/a/T/r/ > There were two > children named Philippe. The Second one is presumed to have survived. I have > two descents through this line , two from Maria and one from Rebecca. There > have been arguments on whether the father of Isaac and Jacob was father or > son forever. I checked all of my research material..Noone really agrees on > this. Steph In the first Truax article (NYGBR 57:212), Isaac and Jacob are shown as sons of Phillipe, Jr. In the later article (NYGBR 58:76-77), they now have the age of Susanna du Chesne from the marriage int. (20 years old in 1621). Now, Isaac and Jacob are listed as possible sons of Phillipe, Sr.; with the comments that "this cannot be determined with accuracy" but that "it is perfectly possible" that Susanna du Chesne was the mother. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

Hi, Steph: I didn't mean to imply that I looked for the word "Junior" or its various forms. I looked to see if the NA baptisms in that era (i.e., those that might have been writted by someone who recorded du Trieux baptisms) showed, for example, a father-son pair of Jesse De Foreest men (which there weren't, since Jesse "Sr." died before Jesse "Jr" reached adulthood). I saw no son of Isaac De Foreest's named Isaac, no son of Hendrick Spier's named Hendrick, etc. There must have been relatively few two-generation families in NA by 1640, so I don't know whether there happened to be a set of father-son records that could serve as a benchmark for the two men named Phillipe du Trieux. Chris On 5/1/07, Thomas Hochuli <thochuli@cfl.rr.com> wrote: > > Jr. was not commonly used in New Netherlands until somewhat later. > According to my notes. Philippe Du Treiux was born about 1586 at Roubaix, > near Lille, French Flanders and was consider a Walloon. There were two > children named Philippe. The Second one is presumed to have survived. I > have > two descents through this line , two from Maria and one from Rebecca. > There > have been arguments on whether the father of Isaac and Jacob was father or > son forever. I checked all of my research material..Noone really agrees on > this. Steph > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >