Chris, The French "du" = "of the." It is a contraction of the preposition "de" and the masculine singular article "le." The feminine form would be "de la" and the plural is "des." Regards, Ted Snediker -------------- Original message -------------- From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> > My mistake, I had mis-recalled that Trier was the German name for Trieste. > In fact, there are (at least) two cities of names such as these in > Europe--Trier in Germany and Trieste in Italy. > > I notice that Trier is only about 30 miles from the Belgian border (with > Luxembourg between). It wouldn't surprise me at all to find that Walloons > such as the du Trieuxs may have come from there. But please note that this > is conjecture on my part, except for the single baptism record I mentioned. > > Can anyone tell us the meaning of "du" in such names as du Trieux, du > Chesne, du Cloux, etc.? > > Chris > > On 5/1/07, Donna Stark wrote: > > > > There is a Trier in Germany, It is possible they were French and escaped > > to > > Germany and Marie was born there.??? (My husband was in the AF and we > > visited Trier often, it was an old Roman ruins but interesting to see. I > > climbed over 100 stairs in high heels. Very tired afterwards. > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Chris Schopfer" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, April 29, 2007 11:16 PM > > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Isaac du Trieux,son of Phillippe Jr or > > Phillippe Sr? > > > > > > > There was also another Philipe, b 3 Jan 1616, who evidently died young. > > > Marie was baptized as "Marije" on 5 April 1617, but the father's name is > > > spelled "du Trier". If this was properly transcribed, I wonder if > > > indicates that the family had emigrated from Trieste. > > > > > > To add to Howard's point about the 1642 baptisms not differentiating > > > between > > > Jr and Sr, even if the father were Phillipe Jr, Phillippe Sr. is > > > conspicuously absent as a sponsor--Isaac would have been his first > > > Trieux-named grandson. And it seems odd that Phillipe Jr. wouldn't have > > > baptized one of his first two sons as Phillipe, although it's of course > > > plausible that there had been one earlier. > > > > > > Does anyone know if there were "Juniors" (sons by the same given name of > > > men > > > with surnames) about the 1640s who baptized children, and if so, whether > > > and > > > how the NA church distinguished them from their fathers? I looked > > quickly > > > at > > > Guillaume Vigne, Joris Rapalje, Hendrick Spier, and Jesse de Foreest, > > but > > > surprisingly didn't see a single "Jr." among them. > > > > > > > > > Was the 1652 Indian incident documented well enough to indicate whether > > > Phillippe Jr. had a wife who was killed at the same time, or is the only > > > evidence that Phillipe Jr. was married the circumstance of the two > > births > > > in > > > the 1640s? > > > > > > Finally, is Jacomyntje the feminine form of Jacob? I'm wondering if > > Jacob > > > b > > > 1645 was named for Jacomyntje/Jacquemyntje. If Jacob was in fact > > Phillipe > > > Jr.'s son, such a given name might make sense as a way to honor > > Jacomyntje > > > Noiret without interfering with the tradition of naming daughters after > > > the > > > female ancestors of Phillippe Jr's wife. > > > > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > > > > On 4/29/07, EShampang@aol.com wrote: > > >> > > >> I also have Du Trieux in my indirect line and have these two children > > of > > >> Philipe Sr. & Jacqueline. Does anyone know if this child named > > Madeleine > > >> is > > >> "Maria/Marie" or another daughter? > > >> Source: > > >> > > >> > > _http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/zoek_ > > >> ( > > http://gemeentearchief.amsterdam.nl/archieven/genealogie/doopregisters/zoek > > >> ) > > >> > > >> > > >> Kind: > > >> Madeleine > > >> vader > > >> Philippe du Trieux > > >> doop > > >> 9 februari 1620 > > >> religie > > >> Waals-Hervormd, Oude Waalse kerk > > >> bron 130 p.98 > > >> > > >> > > >> Kind: > > >> Phlipe > > >> vader > > >> Philippe du Trieux > > >> doop > > >> 10 februari 1619 > > >> religie > > >> Waals-Hervormd, Oude Waalse kerk > > >> bron 130 p.81 > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> ************************************** See what's free at > > >> http://www.aol.com. > > >> > > >> ------------------------------- > > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > > >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > > >> body > > >> of the message > > >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message