HI, I think I can get you the forms for the National Huguenot, just need your address (you may have given it to me before). I was President last 2 years and know the Registrar well. He has a National Office also. Flagon and Trencher, I just need to get the address from the booklet. I also have the Montfort papers for a supplement on John Montfort and they said it was not aproved. I should have gone ahead and used Francis, but wanted to go back one more generation. They said John ws in the wrong place and the wrong time. I should go ahead and prove it, I get so mad at them some times. I have donated so many books to them and helped so many get into the DAR. I was Regent the term before this one and put many into my group. I even did the research for about 5 of them. I will do the forms as soon as I get your address. Do my papers for the Boonesborough. I am not doing well right now. I have four ruptured discs in m neck and T! has a bone spur that is indenting my spinal cord. I am going to PT but feel terrible. It hurts and I have a bad headache. Ice does help some but I have no energy. Those discs cover the whole upper half of the torso. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara Whiteside" <bobbeo60@yahoo.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 6:04 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Kentucky Migration > True the property they purchased from Boone was in Jefferson County, I > use the current location for practical purposes in showing where the > property is now located. Shelby was formed in 1792 and Henry in 1798 and > the Low Dutch purchased the land in 1783 or early 1784. The Filson > Historical Society in Louisville, in their manuscript dept has a leather > pouch which contains the minutes of the Low Dutch Colony dating from 1794, > a treasure to see, hold and read. I haven't looked at it for some time > and believe the earliest minutes are 1794...one of these days, have to go > check on that I suppose.] Donna and I have a mutual ancestor in Francis > Montfort Sr whose signature is found several times among the minutes. > > Francis was one of the intended friends who followed his father in law, > Hendrick Banta 3rd to KY and I have narrowed it down to sometime between > May 1784 when his son Francis Jr was born [in May of that year] and Feb > 1787 when the son Jacob was born in Mercer County, KY. I think it is > likely they came in the spring of 1786 when the river was just coming off > spring flooding [if that is the route they took and no one seems to know > for sure].. It might be well to look at dates of problems with Indians at > the time they may have started out too. Those coming in 1780 had the > good fortune of coming after an especially harsh winter, which kept the > Indians close to their villages in Ohio and not yet ready to pursue the > settlers coming into Kentucky till a bit later in the spring. > > Either way they decided to make the trip to Kentucky, they had to be > either a bit crazed or so dedicated to making a Dutch haven in the > wilderness, for them to hazard Indian attacks journey to make the move. > I cannot imagine traveling under those conditions with small children. > Either way, as they say in DAR, I have a goodly heritage and I have a > great deal of admiration for their courage to move under such harsh > conditions as those times entailed. > > By the way, the lineage of Francis Montfort Sr has been proven by my > cousin, Diana Davis, and myself for membership under his name and service, > for DAR. Gladly share what I used to prove the service...it was tricky > with the Shakers coming in two generations of my line, but it was done and > am proud of it. > > As to the other Dutch colony mentioned in 1815 ish, first I had heard of > it, but will do some checking...surely Dr Thomas D. Clark had to have > mentioned them in his works on KY History somewhere. I am curious to > know a bit more about them. > > Strangely the only thing I knew about my grandmothers mothers line was > that they 1. Came to KY very early 2. The name was Montfort [and both t's > were pronounced by my grandmother ] and 3. they were French Huguenots. > > Donna, I wrote to the Huguenot Society about forms to fill out for > membership about 2 weeks ago but nothing returned in the self > addressed/stamped envelope they asked for....would be interested in a > membership application if you know how to get it. Also for Flagon and > Trencher Society. While at it, I am also going to send in my info for > Society of Boonesborough...and the Bantas were there and qualify you for > it......Hendrick 3rd spent time there as did his son, John [Shaker John] > and I descend from both. I just sent in supplemental paperwork to my DAR > registrar on Sarah Boone Wilcoxson this morning....sister of Daniel and > Squire [the circle comes full with my lineage connecting to the Low Dutch > and the man who they bought their land from...!] She was the easiest of > the three women patriots in my line to document for a supplemental..I call > them accidental patriots...they were in the wrong place at the wrong time > because their husbands decided to strike out for KY at > a not so safe time. > > Barbara > > Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> wrote: > When these people bought the land it was all in Jefferson County. We only > had three counties at that time. The Mercer, Henry and Shelby county > groups > are one and the same. Some of my ancestors married and lived in Mercer, > but > also lived in Shelby and Henry. Actually the Shelby/Henry County group > were > very close to each other, being on the county line at one point. Remember > this was a very large group of people and each had 200 acres of land. > Brothers, sisters, cousins and all lived from Mercer to Henry and Shelby. > You cannot distinguish one from the other. > > There were French Huguenots. Francis Montfort was a direct descendant of > John Montforrt, a French Huguenot. Also, somewhere I found that one of the > Vories' in my family said his father was born in Virginia, but I am sure > they moved down from Pa. or NJ. So, I hope I can find my proof of this. I > am > a member of the Nationala Huguenot Society on hte Montfort line. My mother > was a Montfort and her father constantly reminded us we were French > Huguenots. > > Donna in KY. (Near Shelby, Henry and Mercer, my mother was born in Henry > Co. > near the farm of her Vories and Montfort families.) > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara Whiteside" > To: > Sent: Monday, May 14, 2007 3:24 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Kentucky Migration > > >> The Low Dutch who came to KY in 1780-1784 were from York County, PA near >> Gettysburg band prior to that can be found in Bergen, Somerset, and >> Hunterdon Counties in NJ and back into what was Nieuw Amsterdam and now >> NYC. None have been found to come from VA to my knowledge though there >> were outsiders, not Dutch or French Huguenot, that came with them. My >> research shows that these outsiders were also in York County, PA and >> moved >> with the Low Dutch to KY. There were two Low Dutch settlements in KY but >> all were related and all connected to York County, PA. One group from PA >> had moved to what is now West VIrginia, at Berkeley County...am doing >> this >> from memory and think that is correct on the county. They took the >> southern route down the eastern side of the Appalachian Mountains to the >> Cumberland Gap and then north to Mercer County, KY. The other took the >> river route down the Ohio from what is now Pittsburgh, PA and settled >> first in Jefferson County, KY [Louisville]. The >> plan was to join in Mercer County to form their Low Dutch Colony in KY >> but >> Indian raids eventually wore them down and they made separate plans to >> survive in the wilderness. They bought land in what is now Shelby and >> Henry Counties in KY, just east of Louisville, [Jefferson County] from >> Squire Boone....but their plans for a self contained Low Dutch Colony in >> KY never came into being. The two leaders of the groups into KY were >> brothers in law, Hendrick Banta 3rd who brought his group down the Ohio >> River in 1780 and the other was Sam Durie married to Wyntie Banta, sister >> of Hendrick who brought his group through the Cumberland Gap in the same >> year. Hendrick is the acknowledged leader of all of the Low Dutch in KY >> however. >> >> I have some info on my website at http://bar-b-k.tripod.com >> Called THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE...a family closely allied with >> the Bantas through marriages. >> >> If I can help or if you have any other questions, please don't hesitate >> to write, will see what I can find in my own collection of materials and >> books or steer you to someone who may have answers for you. >> >> Barbara >> bobbeo60@yahoo.com >> >> >> pspro1123@aol.com wrote: >> >> Does anyone know if the Dutch migration to the low country of Kentucky >> includes Hampshire Co, VA ?? Does any Dutch ancestors include this area >> as >> a >> birthplace, etc ?? >> >> Paula Sprouse >> Ysselstein ancestor >> pspro1123@aol.com >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** >> AOL now offers free >> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> Barbara Whiteside >> bobbeo60@yahoo.com >> >> >> --------------------------------- >> Boardwalk for $500? In 2007? 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