Does anyone have any information about this family, or about the others named at these events?  I am researching the Harris families of Bergen County, and am wondering if this David might be the eldest son of George and Elen Harris; the Ridner/Redner family is new to me and any and all suggestions are welcome!   12 Jan 1752 marriage of David Harris and Catharine Ridner, First Presbyterian Church of Hanover, Morris County, NJ  (Church members, marriages, and baptisms, at Hanover, Morris Co., N.J., during the pastorate of Rev. Jacob Green, and to the settlement of Rev. Aaron Condit. 1746-1796 [1893])   4 Jan 1761 baptism of Joris , son of David Herres and Catharina Riddenaer, RDC NYC witnesses Dirck Brinkerhoff, Rachel Riddenaer, j.d.  (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record July, 1897, Vol 28 No. 3, page143)   10 Aug 1763 baptism of Rachel, daughter of David Herris and Catharina Riddenaar, RDC NYC; witnesses Cornelius Foorhees , Anatje Van Winkele z.h.v. (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record October, 1897, Vol 28 No. 4, page 227)   17 Nov 1762, David Herris and Catharina Reddenaar z.h.v. witness the baptism of Elizabet, daughter of Willem Peersel and Bregje Blaauvelt, RDC NYC (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record October, 1897, Vol 28 No. 4, page 222)   N. York Den 17 Feb 1766 "Op Belydenisse des Geloofs**" Catharina Ridner, h.v.v. David Herris, member of the RDC NYC (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record July, 1930, Vol 61 No. 3, page 269) ** what does this mean?   Many thanks,   Jan

?I think Ridenour might be another common spelling if this is the German family I've seen of that name. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Janice Pranger" <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, December 19, 2010 9:42 PM To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] David Harris and CatharinaRidner/Redner/Riddenaer...1752 > > > > > > Does anyone have any information about this family, or about the others > named at these events? I am researching the Harris families of Bergen > County, and am wondering if this David might be the eldest son of George > and Elen Harris; the Ridner/Redner family is new to me and any and all > suggestions are welcome! > > 12 Jan 1752 marriage of David Harris and Catharine Ridner, First > Presbyterian Church of Hanover, Morris County, NJ (Church members, > marriages, and baptisms, at Hanover, Morris Co., N.J., during the > pastorate of Rev. Jacob Green, and to the settlement of Rev. Aaron Condit. > 1746-1796 [1893]) > > 4 Jan 1761 baptism of Joris , son of David Herres and Catharina Riddenaer, > RDC NYC witnesses Dirck Brinkerhoff, Rachel Riddenaer, j.d. (The New York > Genealogical and Biographical Record July, 1897, Vol 28 No. 3, page143) > > 10 Aug 1763 baptism of Rachel, daughter of David Herris and Catharina > Riddenaar, RDC NYC; witnesses Cornelius Foorhees , Anatje Van Winkele > z.h.v. (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record October, 1897, > Vol 28 No. 4, page 227) > > 17 Nov 1762, David Herris and Catharina Reddenaar z.h.v. witness the > baptism of Elizabet, daughter of Willem Peersel and Bregje Blaauvelt, RDC > NYC (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record October, 1897, Vol > 28 No. 4, page 222) > > N. York Den 17 Feb 1766 "Op Belydenisse des Geloofs**" Catharina Ridner, > h.v.v. David Herris, member of the RDC NYC (The New York Genealogical and > Biographical Record July, 1930, Vol 61 No. 3, page 269) ** what does this > mean? > > Many thanks, > > Jan > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

"Op Belydenisse des Geloofs**" means On professsion of Faith. The person is now joining the church as a member. There could be several reasons why the person is professing his/her faith at this moment, including: -- Person is converting from another faith/sect. Has taken instruction, etc. -- Person has moved from another location, but has no certificate from their former church. The elders/deacons would ask questions until they were satisfied that the prospective member knew and understood the doctrine of the church, and intended to practice this form of religion. -- A young person has recently finished religious classes, etc., and is now joining the church as an adult member of the community. Usually the parents were members, and now thi person is grown-up enough to become a member him/herself. Best I can tell (and this MAY vary!) is this type of membership initialization occured when the prospective member was in her/his late teens. Also note with this last comment that I am referring to what I have observed in Dutch records of the seventeenth century, in the Dutch Reformed Church in the Netherlands, and NOT to any records of any Presbyterian Church of anywhere in NJ, or in the North American colonies. Religious leaders frequently held synods, conventions, etc, in which they sometimes reviewed and modified various aspects of their doctrine or function. But, the bottom line would still be: "Op Belydenisse des Geloofs**" means On Profosssion of faith. The person is now admitted to this particular church as a member. Best wishes, Liz J On 19 December 2010 21:42, Janice Pranger <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Does anyone have any information about this family, or about the others named at these events?  I am researching the Harris families of Bergen County, and am wondering if this David might be the eldest son of George and Elen Harris; the Ridner/Redner family is new to me and any and all suggestions are welcome! > > 12 Jan 1752 marriage of David Harris and Catharine Ridner, First Presbyterian Church of Hanover, Morris County, NJ  (Church members, marriages, and baptisms, at Hanover, Morris Co., N.J., during the pastorate of Rev. Jacob Green, and to the settlement of Rev. Aaron Condit. 1746-1796 [1893]) > > 4 Jan 1761 baptism of Joris , son of David Herres and Catharina Riddenaer, RDC NYC witnesses Dirck Brinkerhoff, Rachel Riddenaer, j.d.  (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record July, 1897, Vol 28 No. 3, page143) > > 10 Aug 1763 baptism of Rachel, daughter of David Herris and Catharina Riddenaar, RDC NYC; witnesses Cornelius Foorhees , Anatje Van Winkele z.h.v. (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record October, 1897, Vol 28 No. 4, page 227) > > 17 Nov 1762, David Herris and Catharina Reddenaar z.h.v. witness the baptism of Elizabet, daughter of Willem Peersel and Bregje Blaauvelt, RDC NYC (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record October, 1897, Vol 28 No. 4, page 222) > > N. York Den 17 Feb 1766 "Op Belydenisse des Geloofs**" Catharina Ridner, h.v.v. David Herris, member of the RDC NYC (The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record July, 1930, Vol 61 No. 3, page 269) ** what does this mean? > > Many thanks, > > Jan