One correction:  Dr. Gale Ion Harris has corrected the ancestry of  Joseph Harris.  He was shown in the two earlier articles as Joseph4 (William3, Thomas2, William1) Harris.  Dr. Harris demonstrates that he is in fact Joseph3 (John2, John1), and is descended from John Harris of Albany who married Elizabeth Claasz, and whose son John2 Harris married Jannetje Nessepat. Jan --- On Sun, 5/30/10, Janice Pranger <[email protected]> wrote: From: Janice Pranger <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Pieter Outwater and Belitie Demarest To: [email protected] Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 5:07 PM A little more about Daniel Outwater, the grandson, and Revolutionary War veteran.   >From "Additional Material Pertaining to the Harris Family of Block Island and Dutchess County" by Robert H. Bowerman, New York Genealogical & Biographical Record, October 1993, pages 222 - 224,   Provides a reference for the 8 Dec 1774 marriage of Daniel Outwater and Neeltje Harris at Hopewell:  REC 78:162 In 1847, Neeltje made a Revolutionary War pension application (W15933, National Archives Microfilm M804, roll 1853) based on the service of Lt. Daniel Outwater.  She presented a family record listing the birthdates for 11 children:  Petrus, Anna, Daniel, Gitty, Beljatte and Barent VanCleek shown below, plus a daughter Elizabeth b. 23 Sep 1781 (between Daniel and Gitty),  Joseph b. 15 Dec 1789, Catherine 14 Feb 1793, J___ (a son, died young) b. 1796, and Sarah b. 30 Nov 1798   Daniel & Neeltje Outwater left Dutchess County and appear in the Adolphustown Census (Ontaria, Canada) in 1803.      Daniel Outwater, the grandson, died October 14, 1827; his widow, Neeltje Harris Outwater travelled in 1847 (at the age of 91) to Oswego, New York to make her pension application and returned to Canada to collect her $80 per year pension until her death in 1851.  Neeltje Harris Outwater died at Hay Bay, Fredericksburgh Twp., 31 Dec, 1851, aged 95.  Her obituary was abstracted in The Dutchess 16:64.   Neeltje Harris was the daughter of Joseph4 (William 3, Thomas2, William1) Harris.   >From "The Supposed Children of Thomas Harris of Dutchess County" by Dr. Gale Ion Harris, The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record, January 2002.   Joseph Harris (Neeltje's father) bap. 15 Oct. 1727 at Kingston, sp Evert Bogardus and Elizabeth Naks, son of William2 Harris and Catherine (Naks/Noxen) Harris: m. (1) Poughkeepsie Dutch Church, 2 Jan. 1747, Annetje Viele (REC 73:229) and (2) 13 Mar. 1780, Tunta Knox (Viele Records, 1913 p. 111 & 126).   >From "The Harris Family of Block Island and Dutchess County, N.Y." by Roderick Bissell Jones, The New York Genealogical & Biographical Record, July 1953 [but superceded in many instances by additional information, and corrected in the articles listed above]    All of Joseph Harris' children were by his first wife Annetje Viele, who was a daughter of Myndert & Neeltje (Van Kleek) Viele.    It would seem that Annetje Viele Harris must have died sometime between between the baptism of her granddaughter (#470 below) in 1777 and Joseph's remarriage in 1780.     Jan --- On Sun, 5/30/10, Pamela J. Sears <[email protected]> wrote: From: Pamela J. Sears <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Pieter Outwater and Belitie Demarest To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Date: Sunday, May 30, 2010, 2:30 PM Hi Ethel and Pat, I can add a bit. Here is the will abstract of Peter Outwater: Abstracts of Wills, Vol XII, 1782-1784    p 227-228 Liber 36: Page 362.--In the name of God, Amen. The first day of September, 1775. I, PETER OUTWATER, farmer, of Rumbouts precinct, Dutchess County, being of sound mind and memory. I leave to my loving wife Balitje, the use of the farm on which I now dwell, with its buildings, etc.; Also, that of another farm on the north side of Johannes Schurrigh's farm; Also, such of my stock, negroes, household furniture, etc., not sold to pay my just debts; all while my widow. If she remarries, then (in lieu of her dower), one bed and her choice of furniture, of a negro wench, and furniture (at my executors' discretion) for house-keeping; and her wearing apparel. Unto my grandson, Daniel Outwater, £5; the farm whereon I dwell, buildings, etc.; at the death or remarriage of my widow. Unto my granddaughter, Catharine Outwater, wife of Barndt Van Kleeck, of the same county, the use of my other farm adjoining Johannes Schurrigh, at my widow's death or remarriage. After said Catharine's decease, to go equally to the children of her body. My undisposed of lands to be sold, the proceeds of sale to pay my debts. Should there be a shortage, enough of my stock, negroes, and other moveables to be sold; any overplus to go equally to my two grandchildren. At my widow's death or remarriage all remaining moveables to be divided in like manner. I make my grandson, Daniel Outwater, Barndt Van Kleeck, my trusty friend, Samuel Dodge, of the same county, executors. Witnesses, Johannes Schurri; Clement Cornell, of said county, yeoman; Antony Helst. Codicil. The fifteenth day of May, 1777, I, PETER OUTWATER, being weak in body; my wife Balitje having died, her legacy is to go equally to the above grandchildren. Unto Peter, son of my grandson, Daniel Outwater, my grey mare. My wench Mary, and my negro boy Jim, to the one of my grandchildren she may choose; my other wench Susan, unto the other grandchild. Same witnesses. Proved, April 2, 1784. Records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Fishkill : Dutchess County, N.Y., 1731-1850. (1930)    p 8 Banns 1 Dec 1752; mrd 11 Jan 1753 Daniel Outwater of Hakkensak & Elizabeth Kniffen of Ry The grandson Daniel Outwater was baptized at Rhinebeck: Daniel  #685;  Birth Date:  29 Mar 1755;  Bapt. Date: 10 Aug 1755;  Parents: Daniel Outwater, Elizabeth Snikkens;  Sponsors: Pieter Outwater, Beeltje De Mores Source:    Baptismal Record of Reformed Church, Rhinebeck No birth record for Tryntje Outwater, but born circa 1753. Great grandchildren baptized at New Hackensack [all Arthur C. M. Kelly transcriptions]: Source:    Records of the Reformed Dutch Church of New Hackensack Tryntje Outwater mrd Barent Van Kleeck 19 Mar 1771 at Poughkeepsie [no source] Elizabeth  #265,  Birth Date: 1 May 1772  Bapt. Date: 7 Jun 1772;  Parents: Barent van Kleek, Tryntje Oudwater;  Sponsors: Pieter Oudwater and his wife Beletje and Antoinetta (twins) #331,  Birth Date: 12 May 1774  Bapt. Date: 5 Jun 1774 Parents: Barent van Kleek, Tryntje Oudewater; Sponsors: Daniel Oudewater, Helena Reynderse Maria  #421 Birth Date: 26 Dec 1776  Bapt. Date: 12 Jan 1777;  Parents: Barent van Kleek, Cathrina Oudwater;  Sponsors: Jacob Bekker, Antonetta van Kleek his wife Susanna, baptized 25 Sept 1779 [record not found] Jacoba  #683  Birth Date: 4 Apr 1783  Bapt. Date: 4 May 1783;  Parents: Barent van Cleek, Cathrina Oudwater Sarah  #917 Birth Date: 28 Mar 1787 Bapt. Date: 6 May 1787;  Parents: Barent van Cleeck, Cathrine Oudwater Daniel Outwater mrd Neeltje Harris 8 Dec 1774 at Hopewell [no source] Petrus  #373;  Birth Date: 27 Sep 1775;  Bapt. Date: 15 Oct 1775;  Parents: Daniel Oudewater, Neeltje Harris;  Sponsors: Pieter Oudewater, Beletje his wife Anna  #470;  Birth Date: 14 Sep 1777;  Bapt. Date: 26 Oct 1777;  Parents: Daniel Oudwater, Neeltje Harris;  Sponsors: Joseph Harris and his wife Daniel  #553;  Bapt. Date: 25 Dec 1779;  Parents: Daniel Oudwater, Neeltje Harris Gitty  #689;  Birth Date: 24 Dec 1783;  Bapt. Date: 1 Feb 1784;  Parents: Daniel Oudwater, Neeltje Harris;  Sponsors: James Edmund, Getty his wife Beljatte  #814;  Birth Date: 6 Oct 1785;  Bapt. Date: 13 Jan 1786;  Parents: Daniel Oudwater, Neeltje Harris Barent van Cleek  #984;  Birth Date: 14 Nov 1786;  Bapt. Date: 17 Feb 1788;  Parents: Daniel Oudwater, Cathrine Harris Regards, Pam Sears ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message