I seem to recall a couple of times running across the assertion, unsourced and time period not specified, that only about 40 percent of the inhabitants of New Amsterdam were actually Dutch. --pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marleen Van Horne" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2010 11:11 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Van Horne-DNA and the origin of Matthys Cornelissen > For the last three hundred years or so, the descendants of Cornelius and > Abraham Van Horne, the sons of Matthys Cornelissen, have thought their > immigrant ancestor was Dutch. > > This was a perfectly reasonable assumption, Matthys Cornelissen was > believed to have been a resident of New Netherlands and the surname > adopted by his sons was in the Dutch form, Van Horne / Van Horn. > > Matthys Cornelissen's oldest grandchild was born in 1720, by which time > Matthys had probably died. Cornelius Van Horen married three times, all > of his wives came from families of English origin. Cornelius died in > 1744, leaving six children under the age of 10. Abraham Van Horn and > Annetje Covenhoven had seven children over a 20 year period. Of the two > sons and their wives, the only person who was actually of Dutch descent > was Annetje. None of Matthys Cornelissen's grandchildren were born > before his death, so they never knew him. It seems very likely, that > once Cornelius and Abraham had died, none of their children had any idea > of where their paternal grandfather came from. In the case of Abraham's > children, their Dutch mother would have had an opportunity to give them > some sense of their Dutch ancestry from her line. > > All of the published genealogies on this family from the first in the > late 1800s to the April 1976, DeHalve Maen article, Stories derived from > the 1722 Conveyance, by Paul E. Van Horn, asserted that Matthys > Cornelissen was Dutch, from Hoorn, North Holland. > > In the bibliography for his article, Mr. Van Horn lists the 1892, > Holland Society transcription of Dutch Reformed Church marriage records > as the source for the marriage information of Matthys Cornelissen and > Fytie Adam Brouwer. The problem with these transcription is that they > only list the name of the bride and groom, and give the date. The > original record included identifying facts about the bride and groom. > > Betrothed 20 February (1692) > > Matys Cornelisen van Jutlandt, young man, with > Fytie Adam Brouwer, widow of Evert Hendricks, > both residing at Brooklyn. > > Until the late 1990s, it is doubtful that most researchers of this > family ever saw the original text of the marriage record. > > In the 1600s, as now, Jutland formed a large part of the country of > Denmark. On Jutland, there are two small towns named Horne, one in > Hjorring and one in Ribe. So, the surname Van Horne, could be a > reference to either of these towns. > > The Van Horne yDNA Project at Family Tree DNA, has just received the 67 > marker yDNA test results of a descendant of Niels Christensen, who was > born 14 October 1873 in Copenhagen, Denmark and immigrated to Oakland, > California in 1905. These test results match the six descendants of > Abraham Van Horn who are already participating in the Van Horne project > with a genetic distance of 3 to 5 generations. This basically means > that Matthys Cornelissen and Niels Christiansen had a common ancestor > who lived at least 233 years ago and confirms the Danish origin of > Matthys Cornelissen. > > To see the test results of Niels Christiansen as compared to the > descendants of Matthys Cornelissen go to: > > www.familytreedna.com/public/VanHorne > > and click on yResults. > > Marleen Van Horne > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message