Several web sites list that Symen Symonse Groot (1604- ) married Jacob Aertse Wagenaar. I'm unfamiliar with Dutch and names of Dutch. I'm informed by a reader of DUTCH-COLONIES @ roots.web that Symen Symonse Groot is a male name. I'm looking for the partner of Jacob Aertse Wagenaar who was born 1594. The partner's name I seek gave birth to Aert Jacobsen Van Wagenen who was born 1620 in Wageningen Holland and died 6 June 1667 in Kingston, NY. - - -
Willard, Thanks for taking the joke in stride; I apologize. I am also a descendant of Aert Jacobse & Annatje Gerritse, through their daughter Lysebet who md. Cornelis Masten. I can't pretend to have done serious research on the origins of the man, but I have seen much of what is known about him, and I am not persuaded that there is a link between he and the Jacob Aertsz (Jacob Adriaensz) Wagenaer who sailed on den Calmer Sleutel Dec. 1637 at the age of 25 as farm servant for Albert Andriesz. My doubt has been reinforced by the marriage record at Westbroek: "den 31. Maij 1640 Aert Jacobs j.g: van Acht-thienhoven EV Annetien gerrits van Schaijck j.d: mede van Acht-thienhoven tot West broeck bevesticht den 21. Junij 1640." So there are 2 basic problems with the connection. One, that there names seem to be of different origin - Wagenaer is occupational, while van Wagenen is geographic. Two, that Jacob Aertsz came to Rensselaerwyck as a laborer while his son stayed behind and was married three years later. Clearly, that scenario is possible, but I think this proposed connection has more to do with the coincidental similarity of their names than the facts or logic of their relationship. The father of Aert Jacobse van Acht-thienhoven may very well be a man named Jacob Aertsz. Sorry, but I have no information on him or his partner. Regards, Jim Harder ________________________________ From: Willard Saunders <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Thu, September 30, 2010 11:02:38 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Mother of Aert Jacobsen Van Wagenen Several web sites list that Symen Symonse Groot (1604- ) married Jacob Aertse Wagenaar. I'm unfamiliar with Dutch and names of Dutch. I'm informed by a reader of DUTCH-COLONIES @ roots.web that Symen Symonse Groot is a male name. I'm looking for the partner of Jacob Aertse Wagenaar who was born 1594. The partner's name I seek gave birth to Aert Jacobsen Van Wagenen who was born 1620 in Wageningen Holland and died 6 June 1667 in Kingston, NY. - - - ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message