Hello Judy Cassidy, What are the dates and places of birth of Isaac Van Arsdalen and Ester Houghteling? Who are their children and birth dates? Thank you for your help. Have a good day, Jon Wenzel in Mariposa, California --- On Fri, 3/12/10, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] no subject To: [email protected], [email protected] Date: Friday, March 12, 2010, 11:39 AM I was asleep at the wheel evidently, regarding Janice's question about Low Dutch from Conewago migrating to Redstone. Redstone was never a "Dutch Church,"  or Colony rather is was Presbyterian Church area. Nor was this area what I would consider a Low Dutch Colony, nor were Washington Co., Westmoreland and Fayette Co.  These Counties were areas where many of the Dutch migrated from various locations in PA other states, settling for a time prior to moving over into Ohio.  A few families from the Conewago Church Community removed to Unity and Greensburg, PA  after 1800 once the majority left for Kentucky and New York State. Once the main groups from Conewago, departed in 1780, 1783 and 1793/4, the Conewago church was left without a regular minister.  Rev. Black, a local Presbyterian minister who had served at Upper Marsh Creek Presbyterian Church in now Adams County, PA , served as a supply pastor to the remaining Conowago Congregation from 1794 to 1800. "From 1794 Mr. Black remained in the neighborhood of Gettysburg, preaching statedly to a Reformed Dutch Congregation which then existed in the vicinity of Hunterstown. In 1800 Mr. Black received a call from the churches of Unity and Greensburg in Westmoreland County, PA which he accepted and was enrolled as a member of the Presbytery of Redstone.  He died Aug. 16, 1802."  Several Conowago parishioners migrated to this area of Westmoreland Co., including the children of Isaac and Esther Houghteling Van Arsdale and Thomas and Annetie Hoogtely Van Tine.  In an article  "A Bit of History About Early Settlers,"  by B.V.M. McPherson, "Gettysburg Times, 3 Dec. 1960, pg. 52, which mention Monday January 30, 1843, "Melancholy accident, - On Tuesday night, January 4, 1843, five men were crossing the Allegheny River at Pittsburg, Pennsylvania, in a skiff, when a gust of wind struck and upset the boat and three of the fiver were drowned.  One of these was Garret vanorsdallen, formerly of this place.  The others were taken up nearly exausted."  Garret, son of Isaac Van Arsdalen and Ester Houghteling married Elizabeth Garvin, both of Gettysburg 26 Oct. 1826 in Gettysburg.  His sister Hannah Vanorsdal who married William irwin, 16 Oct. 1816 as did brother Isaac. Who else was in that skiff is unknown.    SOURCES; :Demarest, Historical Discourse, 32; The Centennial Memorial of the Presbytery of Carlisle, 2 (Harrisburg,  PA: Meyers Printing and Publishing, House, 1889), 68; History of Presbytery of Redstone Organized by The Synod of New York and Philadelphia, Sept. 10, 1781 and Under its care till 1788: A Part of the Syod of Virginia, 1788-1802; of The Synod of Pittsburg, 1802-1881 and now of The Synod of Pennsylvania, 1881-1889, (Washington, PA: Observer Book and Job Print, 1889) 186, Black served from 21 Apr. 1801-21 Apr. 1802.29 Barbara A. Barth, The Dorland Enigma Solved, A Revision of the Dorland Genealogy (Sandisfield, MA: Diane Barth 2006) [hereafter Barth, The Dorland Enigma Solved], 171, Isaac, Garret, Hannah w/o W. Irwin; Van Tine Family info. courtesy of Carol van Tine Yocum, 4320 S. 700 East #5, Salt Lake City, UT 84107. Judy Cassidy ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message