Nice! ________________________________ From: Pamela J. Sears <[email protected]> To: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> Sent: Sun, June 27, 2010 8:26:25 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Vanderbilt and Geertruy Hardenbergh Hi Ethel, You're welcome. Glad to have helped and thanks for the Voorhees marriage record for Jacob Jansz Vanderbilt and Maria Dircks Van der Vliet. And Mike Morrissey contributed the following, but forgot to make his point :-): > >From "Baptismal record of the Reformed Dutch Church at Oyster Bay, > Long Island, New York, 1741-1846 (1913)", transcribed by Josephine C. > Frost, pg 3, several baptisms are recorded with some comments. They > appear in the order shown below: > > Different writing from last three commences here > 1747, April 22, Isaac Remsen, Geertruy Vanderbilt, Jan, Jan > Vanderbilt, Margarita Hogelant his wife. (A query after this > suggesting the wife's name as Cathrina) > The next name is still in a different had from the others. > [same day] Jan Vanderbilt, Margarit Hogelant, Hendrik [no witnesses] > [same day] Jeromus Bennet, Neeltje Hogeland, Neeltje [no witnesses] > [same day] Abraham Hogelant, Anatje Durje, Neeltje [no witnesses] > > In the above records the relationships between the parents are not > stated, but can be summarized as: > 1) Geertruy Vanderbilt is the daughter of Jan Vanderbilt and his first > wife, Geertruy Hardenbergh. > 2) Jan Vanderbilt and his second wife, Margaret Hoogland > 3) Neeltje Hoogland, sister of Margaret Hoogland > 4) Abraham Hoogland, brother of Margaret Hoogland. > > Mike Morrissey I'm sure Mike meant to say that Margaret, Neeltje and Abraham (siblings), were all children of Willem Hooglandt and his wife Neeltje Adrians Ryerson, which helps to confirm the placement of Margaret (wife of Jan Vanderbilt) in that family (i.e. daughter of Willem). I've been trying to determine just how (or why) Daniel Hoogland Carpenter ("The Hoagland Family in America" p 180) was so confused in this regard, and it must be because another Hoogland sibling, Cornelius Hoogland, married (1st) Maria Hardenbergh, and they had a daughter named Margaret, baptized 25 July 1730 at Jamaica [NYG&BR 107:36]. This Margaret Hoagland married Dirck Vanderbilt (baptized 10 November 1727 at Jamaica [NYG&BR 106:205]), the son of Jacob Vanderbilt & Maria Van der Vliet. Naturally, Cornelius Hoogland mentioned his daughter Margaret Vanderbilt in his will dated 16 May 1777 [WNYHS 10:98/99], but failed to specify her husband's name. Never mind that Jan Vanderbilt married Margaret Hoogland (daughter of Willem) about the same time (circa 1732) that the other Margaret Hoogland was baptized (25 July 1730). And Jean M. Rand in 1991 never blinked an eye, and simply perpetuated the error. So, as far as I'm concerned, that has become a non-issue. Regards, Pam Sears ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message