Right at this moment I am hard a work transcribing a family treasure trove of Civil War letters that are alternatingly infuriating and heart-rending - your family's story is awful - and tragically unexceptional. Shocking that after all those terrible experiences, as a nation, we don't seem to have learned a damn thing. Breaks my heart. Lynne -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Whiteside Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 9:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] civil War Ancestors My grandfathers father fought first for the Confererates then for the Union...both in Arkansas......the story handed down is the famlly was residing in Denton County, TX and tried to get back to southern IN as the war clouds got darker.....the father and a brother were both killed by a sniper along the tral before they made it to Arkansas where they stopped to spend some time with a sister to my gt grandfather and her family......the war broke out while they were there...and two of the sons were "convinced" they should join the Confederate cavalry.......the mother and two younger siblings made their was back to Harrison County, IN where the mother watched Morgans Raiders shoot her youngest son in the back while he was trying to get the family horses into the woods where the Confederate raiding party might not see them........back in Arkansas...at least one of the boys deserted the CSA and joined the Union Army till the end of the war. He was still sending letters to Washin! gton, D.C. trying to prove he was a loyal Union soldier deserving a pension....one letter was written May 2, 1883, the day his next to the youngest son was born...who would become my grandfather....we have copies of the papers that are in the National Archives attesting to all this. He did get his pension finally. barb whiteside ----- Original Message ----- From: [email protected] Date: Saturday, April 9, 2011 14:38 Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] civil War Ancestors To: [email protected] > Don't know, but do know that sometimes strange things > occured. My ggg grandfather who lived in southern Indiana, > would desert each spring and summer and return to his unit in > the fall. Had to keep the family farm going. Judy > > > Apr 9, 2011 02:09:50 PM, [email protected] wrote: > > =========================================== > > I've learned that all of most of my ancestors dodged the draft! I > guess that says something in and of itself. Any idea how difficult > that would have been to pull off? > > -Jim Miller > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 11:42 AM, wrote: > > I like the fact that the Draft ledgers listed men from the > same areas, especially when you are doing an area heavily > populated with Dutch names, such as Mercer County Kentucky. > They also listed their age, occupation, living or dead. You are > looking at what appears to be a hand written ledger list, which > is easy to read. Although it takes time, you can do the entire > county for other family members with different surnames. > > > > Judy > > > > > > Apr 9, 2011 11:04:11 AM, [email protected] wrote: > > > > =========================================== > > > > OK, I think the Pension Applications are the index cards to the > > applications. The actual applications and accompanying > paperwork can be just > > a few letters back and forth or up to hundreds of pages of material, > > including Bible records as proof, affidavits from many people, > discharge> papers, etc. I went through the folders for my two > Civil War soldiers and a > > few kin about 20 years ago, and was hoping they'd put them > online eventually > > as they did with the Revolutionary Pension folders. But the > volume for the > > Civil War ones will be much higher, of course. > > > > I found one of my soldiers in the draft registration records, > that was cool. > > It didn't add any new data in that one case, but it also > listed the men > > generally by area and so it could be used as another way to > see who was in a > > township or town and not yet in the services, maybe. Or it > could contain > > something new you've never seen, but the info is limited: > location, name, > > age on a certain date in 1863, occupation, race, and maybe a > couple other > > fields. New stuff - always great! > > > > Thanks / Tom > > -------------------------------------------------- > > From: > > Sent: Saturday, April 09, 2011 10:55 AM > > To: > > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] civil War Ancestors > > > >> I received an email from Ancestry. com this am. and on it > were several > >> links to various sites. The Pension Applications are the > original cards > >> and the Draft Records, are actually note books or ledgers > kept by whom > >> ever was recording the information for that particular > county, so you are > >> looking at the original documents. The title is: > >> > >> US Civil War Draft Registration Records, 1863-1865 - Ancestry.com > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> .Apr 9, 2011 10:45:52 AM, [email protected] > >> wrote:===========================================Can you > clarify what this > >> collection contains, please? The Pension Index cards I've > seen, but I'm > >> not getting any hits on my Civil War soldiers in the > collection you > >> mention. Do they have the actual images from the full pension > folder for > >> each soldier?Thanks / > >> Tom--------------------------------------------------From: > Sent: Saturday, > >> April 09, 2011 10:39 AMTo: Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] civil > War Ancestors> > >> Ancestry.com has just posted the Civil War Pension > Applications as well as > >> > theConsolidated List of Civil War Draft Records. These > seem to be Union > >> > Soldiers only but do include Kentucky and Missouri and > there are many > > >> descendants of our Dutch ancestors listed.>> > >> Judy>> -------------------------------> To unsubscribe from > the list, > >> please send an email to > [email protected] > with the > >> word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and > the bo! > >> dy of the message> -------------------------------To > unsubscribe from the > >> list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES- > [email protected] with the > >> word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the > body of the > >> message > >> > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [email protected] with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE http://www.montfortfamilyetc.blogspot.com http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kyshakerf amily ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message