Judy, to perhaps reassure you a bit for the future, NEHGS has been making quite a push to expend their research boundaries, especially into New York. Their website and magazine are now http://www.americanancestors.org and American Ancestors (they do still also publish The New England Historical and Genealogical Register). They also have a website http://www.newyorkancestors.org or as they call it, a web portal from NEHGS. Holly -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, June 08, 2011 2:33 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] NNC on CD Reply Thanks for trying Chris, I appreciate that. My concern as mentioned is a time goes by, many of those who either contributed and or know about the NNC are going to age, die or not going to be around, so that the next generation of descendants would never think to look in New England for New Netherlands ancestors, a real loss of golden information. New York, yes, New England iffy. Fortunately it does exist in some libraries, however. Judy Jun 8, 2011 12:53:25 PM, [email protected] wrote: =========================================== To all interested, This morning I received a reply from Tom Wilcox regarding my suggestion to make New Netherland Connections available on CD for purchase, and/or to make it available at the FREE database section of the AmericanAncestors.org website. (Which can be seen here http://www.americanancestors.org/free-databases/#free) . His reply was that after consultation with his colleagues, they have decided to "continue on as they have been for the foreseeable future." He stated that they view NNC as a part of a "suite of journals" which include The Register, The American Genealogist, Virginia Genealogist, Essex Genealogist, Pennsylvania Genealogical Magazine, and a few others that are to be added in the near future. He states that the cost for creating a CD can not be justified as they believe it could not be recovered by sales of the CD. I had suggested that making NNC available as a CD or as a Free database would bring many New Netherland researchers who otherwise are not familiar with all that the NEHGS has to offer to the AmericanAncestors website. The reply here being that they already work hard to insure that the cost of membership is well worth the benefits received. To be honest, I don't have a rebuttal for the reply (and I'm certainly not going to badger anyone) and as a member of the NEHGS I can only add that I do believe that the $75 annual membership is well worth it. You will not find a better value among genealogy memberships or subscriptions. (Compare to about $290 for an Ancestry.com World annual subscription which includes many databases of lower quality, or a NYGBS membership which is also $75 but offers far less on their website). On the plus side, they have added Volume 13 to the Description page for NNC in PDF format. And apparently volumes 14 & 15 are coming. So right now, vols. 1-13 are available as PDFs at http://www.americanancestors.org/Databaselist.aspx but I am not certain if this can be accessed without a membership. You'll have to try for yourself. One other observation. Some who have contributed articles have stated that they had to sign a consent form and in doing so were of the belief that NNC was being made available free. As I mentioned above, vol. 13 is now online as a PDF. I had an article in v. 13, but never was asked to sign any type of consent form. So apparently, the NEHGS is working with the assumption that consent from individual authors is not required before making journals available to paid subscribers in digital format. Sorry it did not turn out better, Chris Chester On Jun 5, 2011, at 7:40 AM, Chris Chester wrote: > Dorothy, > > I did send out a request to the NEHGS this morning. A copy went to > your e-mail as well. > > I'll let you all know of the reply when it comes. > > Chris Chester > > On Jun 04, 2011, at 08:11 AM, Dorothy Koenig wrote: > >> Dear Holly and All, First of all, it is just grand to see this >> Dutch-Colonies list wake up from its recent deep coma :-)! It gives >> me joy to know that the trusty regulars are all out there as their >> familiar names pop up in my inbox. >> >> Note that "In January 2008 I freely granted "exclusive permission to >> allow NEHGS to electronically publish New Netherland Connections on >> the NEHGS website..." >> >> If anyone wants to propose to the Society that they make a CD >> available, the appropriate person to contact at the New England >> Historic Genealogical Society is Thomas Wilcox, Chief Operating >> Officer, NEHGS. >> >> Tom's email address is [email protected] >> >> Dorothy >> >> >>> I should think a great deal depends on the geography of our >>> ancestors. >>> Certainly, based on my mother's early NY Dutch colonial lines I >>> would be able to justify NEHGS membership. I am a member because my >>> paternal grandfather's lines go back into the early 1700's and the >>> 1600's of New England. Even so, I would love to be able to purchase >>> a CD of the complete NNC. >>> >>> Holly Timm >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: [email protected] >>> [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara >>> de Mare >>> Sent: Friday, June 03, 2011 1:00 PM >>> To: [email protected] >>> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] NNC >>> >>> Hi Dorothy, >>> >>> I am thrilled to have them available on NEHGS. Anyone who says >>> they have no >>> other reason to join obviously doesn't know about all the benefits >>> of NEHGS >>> and its fabulous library and website. NNC is just one more of their >>> excellent data bases. >>> >>> Barbara >>> >>> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >>> Attorney, historian, genealogist, grandmother >>> 155 Polifly Road >>> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >>> >>> (201) 567-9440 office >>> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ________________________________ >>> From: Dorothy Koenig >>> To: [email protected] >>> Sent: Thu, June 2, 2011 7:33:16 PM >>> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] NNC >>> >>> Dear Chris and All, Yes, volumes 1-12 have been available for some >>> time I >>> recently spoke to the folks at NEHGS, and they said that they are >>> working on >>> indexing volumes 13-15 (which will complete the whole set) and >>> that they >>> will be posted to the database as soon as possible. >>> >>> Dorothy >>> >>>> Terry, >>>> >>>> The NEHGS has made available volumes 1 thru 12 of NNC, to >>>> members, at >>>> their website, www.americanancestors.org >>>> >>>> I do have digitized copies in PDF format here at home and send >>>> them to >>>> your e-mail address shortly. >>>> >>>> Volumes 13, 14 and 15, have not yet been added to the NEHGS's >>>> online >>>> collection. (Not sure what the hold up is, Vol. 12 was placed >>>> online >>>> more than two years ago). >>>> >>>> Chris Chester >>>> On Jun 2, 2011, at 3:30 PM, THJ wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Dorothy, >>>>> >>>>> Hope you are keeping well! I'm still pursuing the van der Hoeven >>>>> family and wonder if you might still have the following articles >>>>> from >>>>> NNC. I'm happy to pay for copies and postage. >>>>> Abstracts from Notarial Documents in the Amsterdam Archives by Pim >>>>> Nieuwenhuis published in New Netherland Connections in series Vol. >>>>> 4:3,4; Vol. 5:1-3 >>>>> >>>>> Grateful thanks >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Terry Haslam-Jones >>>>> Rossendale >>>>> England >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------- >>>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>>> [email protected] >>>>> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >>>>> the body of the message >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the >>> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >>> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and >> the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message