Do I gather he would have been required to furnish his own weaponry and ammo? Nora On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 8:29 PM, Howard Swain <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Nora, > > If you look at Documents Relative ... vol I, pp. 643 - 645, > you will see a long list of "Estimated Expenses of sending a Colony > to the Delaware River". dated 1656. > It lists all kinds of clothing. Eg. first item is 400 pairs of shoes for > 500 fl. > Shirts were 1.8 fl. each. > Later are costs for muskets, swords, powder, etc. > Muskets were 4.5 fl each. > > As to the voyage, typical was 36 fl per adult, half fare for younger > children, and nothing for nursing babies. My impression is that this > was mostly, if not, entirely for the food they ate. > > Regards, > Howard > [email protected] > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nora Probasco" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 5:06 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Question > > > I am writing a history of George (Jurriaen) Probatski, and in a notarial > document he agreed to repay 130 Carolus gulden or guilders to equip > himself. > That seems a bit high for that purpose. I am trying to figure out how he > brought his family over and was wondering if it might also be included in > that amount, though it is not stated in the notarial document. > > Or whether the WIC paid for their passage per the following info, though > this covered a few years later: > > “Documents Relating to the Colonial History of New York,” B. Fernow, > (c)1883, vol XIV, pg 304: > Soldiers and their families… > "The muster roll of the soldiers coming over, we have made great endeavors > to obtain a larger number, but could not succeed on account of the > recruiting by the East India Company. You will take care and direct, that > the accounts of such as come with their wives and children are duly debited > with the passage money of their families, besides their arms and two > months' > pay paid in advance, for the Company, as you know, has to pay the passage > for these women and children here. Besides a master carpenter, a gunner and > a boatswain, we send you also in the said ship a quantity of tools as per > invoice." > > Nora > > > > > On Tue, Jun 7, 2011 at 7:48 PM, Howard Swain <[email protected]> wrote: > > > Hi Nora, > > > > From: "Nora Probasco" <[email protected]> > > To: "Dutch Colonies" <[email protected]> > > Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2011 3:48 PM > > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Question > > > > > > > Would an amount of one hundred and thirty carolus guldens be considered > > > a > > > large amount in 1654? > > > > > > Nora > > > > I assume "carolus gulden" is the same as a Carolus guilder. > > The Carolus guilder was equal to 1.5 regular guilders. > > So, your 130 would be about 200 guilders = 200 florins. > > > > I think the best way to compare money amounts over a long time > > span, is to look at how long a person would have to work to earn > > that much. > > > > William Hoffman in Random Notes Concerning Settlers of Dutch Descent > > in TAG vol 29, pp. 65 -76 shows that a farm hands earned about > > 100 to 150 guilders per year. If you scan down the notarial records > > in NNC vol 5 you will see that this is a very good estimate. I see > > many men contracting to work for about 120 guilders per year. > > > > You can also look at prices. Hoffman has that a mare cost 200 gl. > > > > Regards, > > Howard > > [email protected] > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >