Mary, Thank you--I didn't see this before I asked for it again. Let me make sure I follow the whole thing. baptism Dec. 9 1798 Harmannus Van Slyke (name as father) {this is the place where in the original his name was upside down, indicating an illegitimate birth, I was originally told}. Is the 8480 the number Kelly gave to the baptism in his listing? DOB is Oct. 6. I didn't remember whether the baby's last name showed up, so that's good to know too. Neeltje Schermerhorn (Schermerhoorn) is the mother. So the sponsors must be Evert Schermerhoorn and Elizabeth Schermerhoorn. I've learned not to assume that means a married couple, and at the time I didn't know who either was. Now I know that an Elizabeth was Neeltje's sister, and she married an Evart Schermerhorn. The family, like many early settlers, was very inbred--they went back to 1636 in NY, and Neeltje herself was descended from two of Jacob Janse's sons. So it would make a lot of sense to have her sister and her husband as sponsors, especially with an out of wedlock child, when the father married someone else between the birth and the baptism. I'm very grateful for the information. Thanks, Doris I've got the DOB as Oct. 6 and of , baby Clara Van Slyke (I wasn't quite sure whether the last name showed up in the record so that's good to know) ---------- Original Message ---------- From: Mary Van Orsdol <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Baptismal Record Schenectady 9 Dec 1798 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:18:10 -0800 >From *Baptism Record of Schenectady Reformed Church: Schenectady, New York, 1694-1811* (New York: Arthur C. Kelly, 1987), page 371. "1798 12. 9 Harmannus Van Slyke (name as father) 8480 Clara Van Slyke Evert Schermerhoorn Neltje Schermerhoorn b 10. 6 Elizabeth Schermerhoorn" Hope the formatting comes through. Mary On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Can someone please check for me a baptismal record in the Schenectady DRC, > 9 Dec. 1798, for Claara, child of Neeltje Schermerhorn and Harmannus Van > Slyke. The father's name is upside down. I hadn't known, until told, that > this meant an illegitimate birth. What I had was Neeltje's own New > Testament, where she listed her children. Claara is listed there as her > first, without a last name or a father, unlike her later children. > > A number of years ago, someone on this list got this record for me from > Kelly. I was a newbie, and I didn’t write down the number from Kelly, or > the names of the sponsors. I do remember that at the time I didn’t > recognize the names; now that I’ve done more research and have more of > Neeltje’s relatives, they may be more meaningful. And now I know the > importance of having Kelly’s number, just for future reference. I've got > all the children from her marriage to Hendrick Bastiaanse accounted for, > Kelly's numbers, sponsors and all, so I just need Claara's. > <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" > /> > Thanks, > Doris Waggoner > ____________________________________________________________ > Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance > If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d3622c62a3cbc540a5st03vuc > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message
Yes, 8480 is the number Kelly assigned. Mary On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 8:50 PM, [email protected] < [email protected]> wrote: > Mary, > Thank you--I didn't see this before I asked for it again. > Let me make sure I follow the whole thing. > baptism Dec. 9 1798 Harmannus Van Slyke (name as father) {this is the > place where in the original his name was upside down, indicating an > illegitimate birth, I was originally told}. > Is the 8480 the number Kelly gave to the baptism in his listing? > DOB is Oct. 6. I didn't remember whether the baby's last name showed up, > so that's good to know too. > Neeltje Schermerhorn (Schermerhoorn) is the mother. So the sponsors must > be Evert Schermerhoorn and Elizabeth Schermerhoorn. I've learned not to > assume that means a married couple, and at the time I didn't know who either > was. Now I know that an Elizabeth was Neeltje's sister, and she married an > Evart Schermerhorn. The family, like many early settlers, was very > inbred--they went back to 1636 in NY, and Neeltje herself was descended from > two of Jacob Janse's sons. So it would make a lot of sense to have her > sister and her husband as sponsors, especially with an out of wedlock child, > when the father married someone else between the birth and the baptism. I'm > very grateful for the information. > Thanks, > Doris > I've got the DOB as Oct. 6 and of , baby Clara Van Slyke (I wasn't quite > sure whether the last name showed up in the record so that's good to know) > > ---------- Original Message ---------- > From: Mary Van Orsdol <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Baptismal Record Schenectady 9 Dec 1798 > Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 16:18:10 -0800 > > >From *Baptism Record of Schenectady Reformed Church: Schenectady, New > York, > 1694-1811* (New York: Arthur C. Kelly, 1987), page 371. > > "1798 > 12. 9 Harmannus Van Slyke (name as father) 8480 Clara Van Slyke Evert > Schermerhoorn > Neltje Schermerhoorn b 10. > 6 Elizabeth Schermerhoorn" > > Hope the formatting comes through. > > Mary > > > > On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:30 PM, [email protected] < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > Can someone please check for me a baptismal record in the Schenectady > DRC, > > 9 Dec. 1798, for Claara, child of Neeltje Schermerhorn and Harmannus Van > > Slyke. The father's name is upside down. I hadn't known, until told, > that > > this meant an illegitimate birth. What I had was Neeltje's own New > > Testament, where she listed her children. Claara is listed there as her > > first, without a last name or a father, unlike her later children. > > > > A number of years ago, someone on this list got this record for me from > > Kelly. I was a newbie, and I didn’t write down the number from Kelly, or > > the names of the sponsors. I do remember that at the time I didn’t > > recognize the names; now that I’ve done more research and have more of > > Neeltje’s relatives, they may be more meaningful. And now I know the > > importance of having Kelly’s number, just for future reference. I've got > > all the children from her marriage to Hendrick Bastiaanse accounted for, > > Kelly's numbers, sponsors and all, so I just need Claara's. > > <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" > > /> > > Thanks, > > Doris Waggoner > > ____________________________________________________________ > > Obama Urges Homeowners to Refinance > > If you owe under $729k you probably qualify for Obama's Refi Program > > http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3141/4d3622c62a3cbc540a5st03vuc > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >