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    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage of John Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow

    3. Of course deeds are a great source for providing family relationships, and for the narrowing down of an individuals date of death... the following is a great source for early NJ deeds: Colonial Conveyances: Provinces of East and West New Jersey, 1664-1794. Two Volumes. Summit, New Jersey: Crestview Lawyers Service, 1974. The Family History Library also has early records on microfilm for several churches in and near Montgomery Township, which you can request and view at your local Family History Center. You should also check the Somerset County Historical Quarterly, of which some of the volumes can be accessed online at both [1]hathitrust.org and [2]archive.org. -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage of John Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow From: Jeff Ward <[3]jjward@scgc.org> Date: Sat, July 20, 2013 9:26 am To: "[4]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com" <[5]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Thanks, Nancy. I would appreciate the scan. My home email is [6]jeffjward@bellsouth.net. It seems like there should be better evidence for a couple that was of some prominence. Jeff Ward -----Original Message----- From: [7]dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [[8]mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Terhune Sent: Saturday, July 20, 2013 5:26 AM To: dutch-colonies Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage of John Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow Jeff: I'd be happy to scan all the relevant pages from The Van Voorhees family in America and email them to you, but unfortunately I can't illuminate anything further on the descendants of John and Janetje. Nancy On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 07:40 AM, Jeff Ward wrote: > I am wondering if anyone on this list has more information than I am > posting here about this couple. I have quite a bit of information > about the ancestors of John Van Voorhees and the descendants of John > Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow. I am one of those descendants. I > should have bought the Van Voorhees Family genealogy when it came out > in 2000 but I did not and it is not available in any library > reasonably close to my home. This is all that I have about this > couple. In 2000, the Van Voorhees Family Association published a > family genealogy. There are references to John A. Voorhees and wife > Janetje Kershow at pages 34, 102 and 103. Some early records for the > Somerset County, New Jersey branch of the family are taken from very > old family notes kept by David Voorhees. His record says that John A. > Voorhees, born about 1714, married Janetje Kershow in about 1735 and > that she was born about 1719, He was evidently uncertain of the date > of her death but wrote 18 and did not compl! > ete the date. We assume this means she died after 1800. Her parentage > is unknown but many of the descendants of French Huguenot immigrant > Jacques Cossart used the Kershow or Kershaw surname and dropped the > Cossart surname. Others used the surname Cashow and many other > variations. >> From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, New Jersey >> (1881) Page 837--"John Stevens Van Voorhees came from Flatbush (or >> Flatlands), L. I. to Montgomery Township in 1738, purchasing a farm >> of 345 acres southeast of Blawenburg, on the road to Princeton." In >> 1754, he purchased what is known as the Voorhees homestead of 201 1/2 >> acres located in the north branch of Beden's Brook in the township of >> Montgomery. "Both John Van Voorhees and his wife lived to a grand old >> age, the former being nearly 100, and the latter eighty-nine when >> they died. John Stevens Van Voorhees married Jeanetta Kirshaw, at >> Long Island in 1730." Finally, can anyone on this list tell me >> anything about David Voorhees and the family record that he kept? My >> nineteenth century New Netherland ancestors in Allegany County, New >> York, (Dumont and Cole, formerly Cool or Kool) kept a family record >> that is extraordinary and the original is my possession. This is an >> invaluable record for a period when there a! > re few public records available. They were actually filling out the > family record as people were on their death beds, recording when they > "took sick" and when they died. Jeff Ward > > ________________________________ > This email transmission is confidential and may contain proprietary > information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. Any use, > distribution or copying of this transmission, other than by the > intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please notify the system manager at > [9]dherrera@scgc.org and delete all copies. Electronic media is > susceptible to unauthorized modification, deterioration, and > incompatibility. Accordingly, the electronic media version of any work > product may not be relied upon. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [10]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [11]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message This email transmission is confidential and may contain proprietary information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. Any use, distribution or copying of this transmission, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the system manager at [12]dherrera@scgc.org and delete all copies. Electronic media is susceptible to unauthorized modification, deterioration, and incompatibility. 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    07/20/2013 04:19:32
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage of John Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow
    2. Nancy Terhune

    3. Jeff: I'd be happy to scan all the relevant pages from The Van Voorhees family in America and email them to you, but unfortunately I can't illuminate anything further on the descendants of John and Janetje. Nancy On Sat, Jul 20, 2013 at 07:40 AM, Jeff Ward wrote: > I am wondering if anyone on this list has more information than I am > posting here about this couple. I have quite a bit of information > about the ancestors of John Van Voorhees and the descendants of John > Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow. I am one of those descendants. I > should have bought the Van Voorhees Family genealogy when it came out > in 2000 but I did not and it is not available in any library > reasonably close to my home. This is all that I have about this > couple. In 2000, the Van Voorhees Family Association published a > family genealogy. There are references to John A. Voorhees and wife > Janetje Kershow at pages 34, 102 and 103. Some early records for the > Somerset County, New Jersey branch of the family are taken from very > old family notes kept by David Voorhees. His record says that John A. > Voorhees, born about 1714, married Janetje Kershow in about 1735 and > that she was born about 1719, He was evidently uncertain of the date > of her death but wrote 18 and did not compl! > ete the date. We assume this means she died after 1800. Her parentage > is unknown but many of the descendants of French Huguenot immigrant > Jacques Cossart used the Kershow or Kershaw surname and dropped the > Cossart surname. Others used the surname Cashow and many other > variations. >> From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, New Jersey >> (1881) Page 837--"John Stevens Van Voorhees came from Flatbush (or >> Flatlands), L. I. to Montgomery Township in 1738, purchasing a farm >> of 345 acres southeast of Blawenburg, on the road to Princeton." In >> 1754, he purchased what is known as the Voorhees homestead of 201 1/2 >> acres located in the north branch of Beden's Brook in the township of >> Montgomery. "Both John Van Voorhees and his wife lived to a grand old >> age, the former being nearly 100, and the latter eighty-nine when >> they died. John Stevens Van Voorhees married Jeanetta Kirshaw, at >> Long Island in 1730." Finally, can anyone on this list tell me >> anything about David Voorhees and the family record that he kept? My >> nineteenth century New Netherland ancestors in Allegany County, New >> York, (Dumont and Cole, formerly Cool or Kool) kept a family record >> that is extraordinary and the original is my possession. This is an >> invaluable record for a period when there a! > re few public records available. They were actually filling out the > family record as people were on their death beds, recording when they > "took sick" and when they died. Jeff Ward > > ________________________________ > This email transmission is confidential and may contain proprietary > information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. Any use, > distribution or copying of this transmission, other than by the > intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the > intended recipient, please notify the system manager at > dherrera@scgc.org and delete all copies. Electronic media is > susceptible to unauthorized modification, deterioration, and > incompatibility. Accordingly, the electronic media version of any work > product may not be relied upon. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/20/2013 02:26:27
    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage of John Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow
    2. Jeff Ward

    3. I am wondering if anyone on this list has more information than I am posting here about this couple. I have quite a bit of information about the ancestors of John Van Voorhees and the descendants of John Van Voorhees and Janetje Kershow. I am one of those descendants. I should have bought the Van Voorhees Family genealogy when it came out in 2000 but I did not and it is not available in any library reasonably close to my home. This is all that I have about this couple. In 2000, the Van Voorhees Family Association published a family genealogy. There are references to John A. Voorhees and wife Janetje Kershow at pages 34, 102 and 103. Some early records for the Somerset County, New Jersey branch of the family are taken from very old family notes kept by David Voorhees. His record says that John A. Voorhees, born about 1714, married Janetje Kershow in about 1735 and that she was born about 1719, He was evidently uncertain of the date of her death but wrote 18 and did not complete the date. We assume this means she died after 1800. Her parentage is unknown but many of the descendants of French Huguenot immigrant Jacques Cossart used the Kershow or Kershaw surname and dropped the Cossart surname. Others used the surname Cashow and many other variations. >From the History of Hunterdon and Somerset Counties, New Jersey (1881) Page 837--"John Stevens Van Voorhees came from Flatbush (or Flatlands), L. I. to Montgomery Township in 1738, purchasing a farm of 345 acres southeast of Blawenburg, on the road to Princeton." In 1754, he purchased what is known as the Voorhees homestead of 201 1/2 acres located in the north branch of Beden's Brook in the township of Montgomery. "Both John Van Voorhees and his wife lived to a grand old age, the former being nearly 100, and the latter eighty-nine when they died. John Stevens Van Voorhees married Jeanetta Kirshaw, at Long Island in 1730." Finally, can anyone on this list tell me anything about David Voorhees and the family record that he kept? My nineteenth century New Netherland ancestors in Allegany County, New York, (Dumont and Cole, formerly Cool or Kool) kept a family record that is extraordinary and the original is my possession. This is an invaluable record for a period when there are few public records available. They were actually filling out the family record as people were on their death beds, recording when they "took sick" and when they died. Jeff Ward ________________________________ This email transmission is confidential and may contain proprietary information for the exclusive use of the intended recipient. Any use, distribution or copying of this transmission, other than by the intended recipient, is strictly prohibited. If you are not the intended recipient, please notify the system manager at dherrera@scgc.org and delete all copies. Electronic media is susceptible to unauthorized modification, deterioration, and incompatibility. Accordingly, the electronic media version of any work product may not be relied upon.

    07/20/2013 01:40:05
    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Cornelisen van Hoorn Descendant yDNA Tested
    2. Marleen Van Horne

    3. The Van Horne Surname DNA Project is eight years old. At last, we have a documented descendant of Jan Cornelisen van Hoorn in the project, currently being tested. Normally, I would not make an announcement of this kind until all of the test results were in, but Family Tree DNA, familytreedna.com, is currently having its summer sale. The price for many of their tests, including the yDNA tests are available at a reduced price. Over the last eight years we have identified the genetic pedigree of Christian Barentsen and Matthys Cornelissen, the other two immigrants to New Netherland in the 1600s, whose descendants took some version of the Van Hoorn / Van Horn / Van Horne surname. If you are a Van Horne descendant, but do not know which of these men is you immigrant ancestor, we can now tell you to which family you belong. If you have a pedigree identifying your immigrant ancestor as Jan Cornelisen van Hoorn, and you are a male direct paternal line descendant of his, we are now able to confirm your immigrant ancestor. If you have questions, don't hesitate to write me either on the list, or privately at msvnhrn@jps.net. Marleen Van Horne Van Horne Surname DNA Project -- When the people, who made the music of your youth, begin dying of old age, you know that you, too, are old.

    07/14/2013 03:51:20
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 8, Issue 110 - MOECHEF1
    2. Firth Fabend

    3. Do not send me juliasgenes. On Jul 11, 2013, at 12:06 PM, juliasgenes <juliasgenes@yahoo.com> wrote: > MOECHEF1 - To unsubscribe, follow the directions at the bottom of the message. > > > > > >> ________________________________ >> From: "MOECHEF1@aol.com" <MOECHEF1@aol.com> >> >> >> unsubcribe >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> ========================================== >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/11/2013 06:20:32
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 8, Issue 110 - MOECHEF1
    2. juliasgenes

    3. MOECHEF1 - To unsubscribe, follow the directions at the bottom of the message. >________________________________ > From: "MOECHEF1@aol.com" <MOECHEF1@aol.com> > > >unsubcribe > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >========================================== >

    07/11/2013 03:06:00
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 8, Issue 110

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    07/10/2013 05:23:13
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document
    2. BStevens

    3. This is exciting news, and will provide another important document for all of us, but especially for those of us who descend from the Dutch who were in Brazil. As always, Cor, wonderful work, and much appreciated! I shall look forward to hearing more as it becomes available. Bryce Stevens Hello Jim and Chris, I have transcribed the document and it's a financial settlement the WIC had for it's investors and shareholders, because their financial situation was rather poor due to the war in Brasil and other events. They probably did sent a clerk to all the residences of those who invested, that would explain all the different kinds of ink and pens. If you're interested I could translate it, but I now started deciphering all the names and signatures. That is interesting to me. Regards Cor Snabel On 9 July 2013 22:35, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The > year is 1656. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the > > first day of May the year 1650 and ten Tienden februarij des jaers > > Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 I think the first date is > > probably the date it was documented in Amsterdam and the second one > > in May the day it was announced or > registered > > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, > > I'm not sure what the document is about. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains > >> to > this > >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states > (with > >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC > >> stating the > >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this > >> mean that > >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC > >> document > >> From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > >> To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > >> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of > >> the Oude > >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date > >> which appears > >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th > >> February in the > >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to > >> the > West > >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an > interesting > >> document. > >> Chris > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > >> > possible > >> > date? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of > people > >> > who owe > >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > >> > Explorer, > >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> [5] > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMT > oyLiI7 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aT > o2O3M6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6Im > MwMToy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOj > EyOiJj > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMT > oyLmMw > >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > References > >> > > >> > 1. > >> > > >> [6] > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> > >> > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMT > oyLiI7 > >> > >> > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aT > o2O3M6 > >> > >> > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6Im > MwMToy > >> > >> > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOj > EyOiJj > >> > >> > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMT > oyLmMw > >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > ************** > >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, > >> land records > >> > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> -- > >> Chris Brooks > >> Kansas City, Missouri > >> 816-363-1831 > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > >> 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > >> 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > >> 5. > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> 6. > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > >> 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > >> 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ************** > >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > >> records and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Brooks > > Kansas City, Missouri > > 816-363-1831 > > > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > records and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    07/10/2013 10:17:01
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document
    2. cor snabel

    3. Hello Jim and Chris, I have transcribed the document and it's a financial settlement the WIC had for it's investors and shareholders, because their financial situation was rather poor due to the war in Brasil and other events. They probably did sent a clerk to all the residences of those who invested, that would explain all the different kinds of ink and pens. If you're interested I could translate it, but I now started deciphering all the names and signatures. That is interesting to me. Regards Cor Snabel On 9 July 2013 22:35, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The year > is 1656. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day > > of May the year 1650 > > and > > ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 > > I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in > > Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or > registered > > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm > > not sure what the document is about. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to > this > >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states > (with > >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating > >> the > >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean > >> that > >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC > >> document > >> From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > >> To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > >> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the > >> Oude > >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which > >> appears > >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in > >> the > >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the > West > >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an > interesting > >> document. > >> Chris > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > >> > possible > >> > date? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of > people > >> > who owe > >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > >> > Explorer, > >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> [5] > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > References > >> > > >> > 1. > >> > > >> [6] > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> > >> > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > >> > >> > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > >> > >> > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > >> > >> > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > >> > >> > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > ************** > >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > >> records > >> > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> -- > >> Chris Brooks > >> Kansas City, Missouri > >> 816-363-1831 > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > >> 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > >> 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > >> 5. > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> 6. > >> > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > >> 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > >> 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > >> 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ************** > >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > >> and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Brooks > > Kansas City, Missouri > > 816-363-1831 > > > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    07/10/2013 09:00:01
    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] Maps in the Netherlands National Archive

    3. I have been trying, with no success, to locate online digital images of maps that are part of the WIC collection held by the National Archive of the Netherlands... while surfing National archives site please let me know if any of you com across any maps associated with the West India Company. Thanks in Advance! Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [NEW-NETHERLAND] [DUTCH-COLONIES] What is this WIC document From: <[1]jarm@nycnuts.net> Date: Wed, July 10, 2013 2:21 pm To: [2]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com, [3]new-netherland@rootsweb.com For those interested in settlers in Brazil, as well as other locations, you might want to check out the note books of the Amsterdam Chamber of the WIC, especially the note book that covers Jan 1635-Dec. 1636. Van Laer had transcribed entries from that book that pertained to New Netherland, but I don't think he transcribed any of the other records. I believe in the actual records you can still see the check marks and parenthesis written in pencil that Van Laer added to the original note book to indicate the record entries that pertained to New Netherland. You can find the actual records here: [1][4]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/ead/index/nodes/YToxODp7aTo wO3 M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTozO3M6NjoiYz AxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIj tpOjc7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6ODtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MC4iO2k6OTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi 5jMDI6MC4iO2k6MTA7czoxODoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjAuYzAzOjAuIjtpOjExO3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLm MwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMjtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTM7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYz AyOjEuIjtpOjE0O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7aToxNTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO2 k6MTY7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjguIjtpOjE3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7fQ%3D%3D/e adid/1.05.01.01/node/c01%3A2./open/c01:2.#c01:2. And you can find the translations of those records that pertain to New Netherland made by Van Laer in the NYG&B, vol . 49, a copy of which can be found here: [2][5]http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067948836;view=1up;seq=259 Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document From: "BStevens" <[3][6]brycestevens@comcast.net> Date: Wed, July 10, 2013 1:17 pm To: <[4][7]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> This is exciting news, and will provide another important document for all of us, but especially for those of us who descend from the Dutch who were in Brazil. As always, Cor, wonderful work, and much appreciated! I shall look forward to hearing more as it becomes available. Bryce Stevens Hello Jim and Chris, I have transcribed the document and it's a financial settlement the WIC had for it's investors and shareholders, because their financial situation was rather poor due to the war in Brasil and other events. They probably did sent a clerk to all the residences of those who invested, that would explain all the different kinds of ink and pens. If you're interested I could translate it, but I now started deciphering all the names and signatures. That is interesting to me. Regards Cor Snabel On 9 July 2013 22:35, Chris Brooks <[5][8]brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The > year is 1656. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <[6][9]brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the > > first day of May the year 1650 and ten Tienden februarij des jaers > > Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 I think the first date is > > probably the date it was documented in Amsterdam and the second one > > in May the day it was announced or > registered > > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, > > I'm not sure what the document is about. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <[7][10]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains > >> to > this > >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states > (with > >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC > >> stating the > >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this > >> mean that > >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC > >> document > >> From: Chris Brooks <[1][8][11]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > >> To: New-Netherland <[2][9][12]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > >> Cc: [3][10][13]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of > >> the Oude > >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date > >> which appears > >> to be "xen FebrÃúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th > >> February in the > >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to > >> the > West > >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an > interesting > >> document. > >> Chris > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4][11][14]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > >> > possible > >> > date? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of > people > >> > who owe > >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > >> > Explorer, > >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> [5] > >> > [12][15]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/n od > es/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMT > oyLiI7 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aT > o2O3M6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6Im > MwMToy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOj > EyOiJj > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMT > oyLmMw > >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > References > >> > > >> > 1. > >> > > >> [6] > >> > [13][16]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/n od > es/ > >> > >> > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMT > oyLiI7 > >> > >> > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aT > o2O3M6 > >> > >> > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6Im > MwMToy > >> > >> > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOj > EyOiJj > >> > >> > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMT > oyLmMw > >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > ************** > >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, > >> land records > >> > and more visit [7][14][17]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [8][15][18]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> -- > >> Chris Brooks > >> Kansas City, Missouri > >> 816-363-1831 > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [9][16][19]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. [17][20]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > >> 2. [18][21]mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > >> 3. [19][22]mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> 4. [20][23]mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > >> 5. > >> > [21][24]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/n od > es/ > >> 6. > >> > [22][25]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/n od > es/ > >> 7. [23][26]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > >> 8. [24][27]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > >> 9. [25][28]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ************** > >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > >> records and more visit [26][29]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [27][30]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Brooks > > Kansas City, Missouri > > 816-363-1831 > > > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > records and more visit [28][31]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [29][32]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [30][33]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [31][34]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. [35]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/ead/index/nodes/YToxODp7aTowO 3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTozO3M6NjoiY zAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuI jtpOjc7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6ODtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MC4iO2k6OTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6M i5jMDI6MC4iO2k6MTA7czoxODoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjAuYzAzOjAuIjtpOjExO3M6MTg6ImMwMToyL mMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMjtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTM7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuY zAyOjEuIjtpOjE0O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7aToxNTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO 2k6MTY7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjguIjtpOjE3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7fQ%3D%3D/ eadid/1.05.01.01/node/c01%3A2./open/c01:2.#c01:2. 2. [36]http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067948836;view=1up;seq=259 3. [37]mailto:brycestevens@comcast.net 4. [38]mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 5. [39]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 6. [40]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 7. [41]mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 8. [42]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 9. [43]mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 10. [44]mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 11. [45]mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 12. [46]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 13. [47]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 14. [48]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 15. [49]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 16. [50]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 17. [51]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 18. [52]mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 19. [53]mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 20. [54]mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 21. [55]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 22. [56]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 23. [57]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 24. [58]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 25. [59]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 26. [60]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 27. [61]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 28. [62]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 29. [63]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 30. [64]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 31. [65]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com ************** For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records and more visit [66]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [67]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 2. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 4. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/ead/index/nodes/YToxODp7aTowO3 5. http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067948836;view=1up;seq=259 6. mailto:brycestevens@comcast.net 7. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 8. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 9. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 10. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 11. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 12. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 13. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 14. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 15. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 16. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 17. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 18. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 19. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 20. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 21. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 22. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 23. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 24. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 25. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 26. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 27. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 28. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 29. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 30. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 31. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 32. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 33. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 34. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 35. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/ead/index/nodes/YToxODp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjc7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6ODtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MC4iO2k6OTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MC4iO2k6MTA7czoxODoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjAuYzAzOjAuIjtpOjExO3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMjtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTM7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjE0O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7aToxNTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO2k6MTY7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjguIjtpOjE3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7fQ%3D%3D/eadid/1.05.01.01/node/c01%3A2./open/c01:2.#c01:2 36. http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067948836;view=1up;seq=259 37. mailto:brycestevens@comcast.net 38. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 39. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 40. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 41. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 42. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 43. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 44. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 45. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 46. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 47. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 48. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 49. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 50. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 51. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 52. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 53. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 54. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 55. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 56. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 57. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 58. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 59. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 60. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 61. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 62. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 63. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 64. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 65. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 66. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 67. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com

    07/10/2013 08:32:18
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document

    3. For those interested in settlers in Brazil, as well as other locations, you might want to check out the note books of the Amsterdam Chamber of the WIC, especially the note book that covers Jan 1635-Dec. 1636. Van Laer had transcribed entries from that book that pertained to New Netherland, but I don't think he transcribed any of the other records. I believe in the actual records you can still see the check marks and parenthesis written in pencil that Van Laer added to the original note book to indicate the record entries that pertained to New Netherland. You can find the actual records here: [1]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/ead/index/nodes/YToxODp7aTowO3 M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTozO3M6NjoiYz AxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIj tpOjc7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6ODtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MC4iO2k6OTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi 5jMDI6MC4iO2k6MTA7czoxODoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjAuYzAzOjAuIjtpOjExO3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLm MwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMjtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTM7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYz AyOjEuIjtpOjE0O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7aToxNTtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO2 k6MTY7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjguIjtpOjE3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7fQ%3D%3D/e adid/1.05.01.01/node/c01%3A2./open/c01:2.#c01:2. And you can find the translations of those records that pertain to New Netherland made by Van Laer in the NYG&B, vol . 49, a copy of which can be found here: [2]http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067948836;view=1up;seq=259 Jim -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document From: "BStevens" <[3]brycestevens@comcast.net> Date: Wed, July 10, 2013 1:17 pm To: <[4]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> This is exciting news, and will provide another important document for all of us, but especially for those of us who descend from the Dutch who were in Brazil. As always, Cor, wonderful work, and much appreciated! I shall look forward to hearing more as it becomes available. Bryce Stevens Hello Jim and Chris, I have transcribed the document and it's a financial settlement the WIC had for it's investors and shareholders, because their financial situation was rather poor due to the war in Brasil and other events. They probably did sent a clerk to all the residences of those who invested, that would explain all the different kinds of ink and pens. If you're interested I could translate it, but I now started deciphering all the names and signatures. That is interesting to me. Regards Cor Snabel On 9 July 2013 22:35, Chris Brooks <[5]brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The > year is 1656. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <[6]brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the > > first day of May the year 1650 and ten Tienden februarij des jaers > > Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 I think the first date is > > probably the date it was documented in Amsterdam and the second one > > in May the day it was announced or > registered > > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, > > I'm not sure what the document is about. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <[7]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains > >> to > this > >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states > (with > >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC > >> stating the > >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this > >> mean that > >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC > >> document > >> From: Chris Brooks <[1][8]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > >> To: New-Netherland <[2][9]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > >> Cc: [3][10]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of > >> the Oude > >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date > >> which appears > >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th > >> February in the > >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to > >> the > West > >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an > interesting > >> document. > >> Chris > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4][11]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > >> > possible > >> > date? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of > people > >> > who owe > >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > >> > Explorer, > >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> [5] > >> > [12]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMT > oyLiI7 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aT > o2O3M6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6Im > MwMToy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOj > EyOiJj > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMT > oyLmMw > >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > References > >> > > >> > 1. > >> > > >> [6] > >> > [13]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> > >> > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMT > oyLiI7 > >> > >> > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aT > o2O3M6 > >> > >> > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6Im > MwMToy > >> > >> > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOj > EyOiJj > >> > >> > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMT > oyLmMw > >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > ************** > >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, > >> land records > >> > and more visit [7][14]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [8][15]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> -- > >> Chris Brooks > >> Kansas City, Missouri > >> 816-363-1831 > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [9][16]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. [17]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > >> 2. [18]mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > >> 3. [19]mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> 4. [20]mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > >> 5. > >> > [21]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> 6. > >> > [22]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod > es/ > >> 7. [23]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > >> 8. [24]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > >> 9. [25]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ************** > >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > >> records and more visit [26]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [27]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Brooks > > Kansas City, Missouri > > 816-363-1831 > > > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > records and more visit [28]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [29]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [30]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [31]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. http://www.gahetna.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%3D%3D/eadid/1.05.01.01/node/c01%3A2./open/c01:2.#c01:2. 2. http://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=wu.89067948836;view=1up;seq=259 3. mailto:brycestevens@comcast.net 4. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 5. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 6. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 7. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 8. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 9. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 10. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 11. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 12. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 13. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 14. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 15. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 16. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 17. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 18. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 19. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 20. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 21. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 22. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nod 23. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 24. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 25. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 26. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 27. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 28. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 29. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 30. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 31. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com

    07/10/2013 08:21:31
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document

    3. Thanks Cor! -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document From: cor snabel <[1]cor.snabel@gmail.com> Date: Wed, July 10, 2013 12:00 pm To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com>, Dutch Colonies <[3]Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com> Hello Jim and Chris, I have transcribed the document and it's a financial settlement the WIC had for it's investors and shareholders, because their financial situation was rather poor due to the war in Brasil and other events. They probably did sent a clerk to all the residences of those who invested, that would explain all the different kinds of ink and pens. If you're interested I could translate it, but I now started deciphering all the names and signatures. That is interesting to me. Regards Cor Snabel On 9 July 2013 22:35, Chris Brooks <[4]brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The year > is 1656. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <[5]brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > > > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day > > of May the year 1650 > > and > > ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 > > I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in > > Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or > registered > > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm > > not sure what the document is about. > > > > Chris > > > > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <[6]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > >> > >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to > this > >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states > (with > >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating > >> the > >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean > >> that > >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > >> > >> -------- Original Message -------- > >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC > >> document > >> From: Chris Brooks <[1][7]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > >> To: New-Netherland <[2][8]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > >> Cc: [3][9]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the > >> Oude > >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which > >> appears > >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in > >> the > >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the > West > >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an > interesting > >> document. > >> Chris > >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4][10]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> > > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > >> > possible > >> > date? > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of > people > >> > who owe > >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > >> > Explorer, > >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > [1] > >> > > >> [5] > >> > [11]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes / > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > References > >> > > >> > 1. > >> > > >> [6] > >> > [12]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes / > >> > >> > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > >> > >> > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > >> > >> > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > >> > >> > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > >> > >> > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > >> > > >> > ************** > >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > >> records > >> > and more visit [7][13]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> > ------------------------------- > >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> > [8][14]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > >> -- > >> Chris Brooks > >> Kansas City, Missouri > >> 816-363-1831 > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > to > >> [9][15]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > >> without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > >> References > >> > >> 1. [16]mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > >> 2. [17]mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > >> 3. [18]mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > >> 4. [19]mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > >> 5. > >> > [20]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes / > >> 6. > >> > [21]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes / > >> 7. [22]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > >> 8. [23]mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > >> 9. [24]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ************** > >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > >> and more visit [25]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> [26]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > > > > > -- > > Chris Brooks > > Kansas City, Missouri > > 816-363-1831 > > > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit [27]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [28]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [29]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:cor.snabel@gmail.com 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 5. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 6. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 7. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 8. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 9. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 10. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 11. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 12. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 13. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 14. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 15. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 16. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 17. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 18. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 19. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 20. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 21. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 22. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 23. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 24. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 25. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 26. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 27. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 28. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 29. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com

    07/10/2013 06:49:40
    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch Repository, Harrodsburg Historical Society

    3. We are most fortunate that the Harrodsburg Historical Society has created a repository for Low Dutch books, Papers, Manuscripts, Original wills, deeds, marriage documents, Family Genealogies etc. This involves a lot of work on their part as materials have to be cataloged and processed, but the are willing and happy to do so. In the long run, this will create a large Archives of items, specific to those families who migrated from New York, New Jersey to Conewago Dutch Reformed Church area near Gettysburg in York and Adams Counties as well as Berkeley County VA, now WVA, Kentucky, Indiana, Ohio and west ward. Should you be interested in donating your collection or copies of important papers in your collection as well we Books etc. contact Amalie Preston % of Harrodsburg Historical Society, P. O. Box 316, Harrodsburg, KY 40330-0316 or telephone 1-859-734-5985. Believe it or not, sending books or other library materials, MEDIA MAIL, through the post office is very inexpensive. Believe it or not, I recently sent off three boxes containing about 36 books plus deeds documents etc. and I believe it only cost about $50.00 for the entire mailing. Creating this Archives will benefit researchers in the future and if something should happen to you, you will be secure in the knowledge that your relatives will not toss your valuable collection into the trash or toss their hands up at your collection and because they have no time to sort through everything, simply get rid of it. Judy Cassidy

    07/10/2013 04:22:30
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document
    2. Chris Brooks

    3. Let me correct my multiple errors, I can't seem to type correctly. The year is 1656. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:32 PM, Chris Brooks <brookskcmo@gmail.com> wrote: > I looked closer at page one and find two dates: > > > opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day > of May the year 1650 > and > ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 > I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in > Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or registered > in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing > references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm > not sure what the document is about. > > Chris > > > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > >> >> Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to this >> document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states (with >> translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating >> the >> deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean >> that >> these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? >> >> -------- Original Message -------- >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC >> document >> From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> >> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm >> To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> >> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >> You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the >> Oude >> West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which >> appears >> to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in >> the >> year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West >> India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting >> document. >> Chris >> On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: >> > >> > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a >> > possible >> > date? >> > >> > >> > >> > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people >> > who owe >> > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet >> > Explorer, >> > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: >> > >> > >> > >> > [1] >> > >> [5] >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> > >> > >> >> YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 >> > >> > >> >> aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 >> > >> > >> >> MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy >> > >> > >> >> LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj >> > >> > >> >> MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw >> > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ >> > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 >> > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file >> > >> > References >> > >> > 1. >> > >> [6] >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> >> YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 >> >> aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 >> >> MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy >> >> LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj >> >> MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw >> Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ >> 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 >> .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file >> > >> > ************** >> > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land >> records >> > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ >> > ------------------------------- >> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > >> -- >> Chris Brooks >> Kansas City, Missouri >> 816-363-1831 >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >> without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> References >> >> 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com >> 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com >> 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >> 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net >> 5. >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> 6. >> http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ >> 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn >> 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com >> 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com >> >> ************** >> For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records >> and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831

    07/09/2013 03:35:17
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document
    2. Chris Brooks

    3. I looked closer at page one and find two dates: opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day of May the year 1650 and ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or registered in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm not sure what the document is about. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to this > document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states (with > translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating the > deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean that > these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document > From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the > Oude > West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which > appears > to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in the > year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West > India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting > document. > Chris > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > > possible > > date? > > > > > > > > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people > > who owe > > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > > Explorer, > > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > > > > > > > > [1] > > > [5] > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > > > > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > > > > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > > > > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > > > > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > > > > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > > > References > > > > 1. > > > [6] > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > > > ************** > > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > records > > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com > 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com > 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net > 5. > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > 6. > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn > 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com > 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831

    07/09/2013 03:32:56
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document
    2. Chris Brooks

    3. You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the Oude West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which appears to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in the year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting document. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > possible > date? > > > > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people > who owe > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > Explorer, > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > > > > [1] > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > References > > 1. > http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2.c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831

    07/09/2013 03:17:58
    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] What is this WIC document

    3. It looks like the names are actual signatures of these people as from the variance in the handwriting. Does anyone recognize any of the names and signatures? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:32 pm To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com I looked closer at page one and find two dates: opten eersten dach van Mei deses jaers xvi sestenviftich or the first day of May the year 1650 and ten Tienden februarij des jaers Sestenviftich or the tenth February 1650 I think the first date is probably the date it was documented in Amsterdam and the second one in May the day it was announced or registered in Brazil. I've only looked at the dates so far so other than seeing references to the Directors of the West India Company and Amsterdam, I'm not sure what the document is about. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:29 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to this > document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states (with > translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating the > deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean that > these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? > > -------- Original Message -------- > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document > From: Chris Brooks <[1][5]brookskcmo@gmail.com> > Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm > To: New-Netherland <[2][6]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> > Cc: [3][7]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the > Oude > West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which > appears > to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in the > year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West > India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting > document. > Chris > On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4][8]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > > > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > > possible > > date? > > > > > > > > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people > > who owe > > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > > Explorer, > > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > > > > > > > > [1] > > > [5] > [9]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > > > > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > > > > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > > > > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > > > > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > > > > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > > > References > > > > 1. > > > [6] > [10]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes / > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > > > ************** > > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land > records > > and more visit [7][11]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [8][12]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > Chris Brooks > Kansas City, Missouri > 816-363-1831 > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [9][13]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > References > > 1. 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[22]mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit [23]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [24]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [25]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 5. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 6. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 7. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 8. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 9. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 10. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 11. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 12. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 13. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 14. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 15. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 16. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 17. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 18. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 19. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 20. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 21. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 22. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com 23. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 24. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 25. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com

    07/09/2013 01:41:49
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document

    3. Thanks Chris. I had missed the reference given that pertains to this document that gave the date as 10 februari 1656. It also states (with translation), "List of subscribers to the capital of the WIC stating the deposited amounts. February 10, 1656. 1 piece"... so does this mean that these were investors, or creditors, vs debtors? -------- Original Message -------- Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] [NEW-NETHERLAND] What is this WIC document From: Chris Brooks <[1]brookskcmo@gmail.com> Date: Tue, July 09, 2013 7:17 pm To: New-Netherland <[2]new-netherland@rootsweb.com> Cc: [3]dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com You are correct in that this is a document from the Directors of the Oude West India Company in Brazil. At the top of page 2 is a date which appears to be "xen Febrúarij Jaers xvij Sestenvijftich" or 10th February in the year 1650. I've looked at several of the documents relating to the West India Company but not many in Brazil so this looks like an interesting document. Chris On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 9:00 PM, <[4]jarm@nycnuts.net> wrote: > > Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a > possible > date? > > > > They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people > who owe > money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet > Explorer, > but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: > > > > [1] > [5]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ > > YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 > > aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 > > MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy > > LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj > > MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw > Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/ > 1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 > .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > References > > 1. > [6]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file > > ************** > For New Netherland Resources - ships lists, church records, land records > and more visit [7]http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [8]NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [9]DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message References 1. mailto:brookskcmo@gmail.com 2. mailto:new-netherland@rootsweb.com 3. mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com 4. mailto:jarm@nycnuts.net 5. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 6. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ 7. http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn 8. mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND-request@rootsweb.com 9. mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com

    07/09/2013 01:29:07
    1. [DUTCH-COLONIES] What is this WIC document

    3. Does anyone know what these two documents are and can you discern a possible date? They look to me like they pertain to Brazil and are a list of people who owe money to the WIC. I had trouble viewing the image with Internet Explorer, but had no problems using Foxfire. Here's the link: [1]http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/ YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7 aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6 MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToy LmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJj MDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMw Mjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2 .c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file References 1. http://www.gahetna.nl/en/collectie/archief/inventaris/gahetnascans/nodes/YToxNDp7aTowO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjE7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6MjtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTozO3M6NjoiYzAxOjIuIjtpOjQ7czo2OiJjMDE6Mi4iO2k6NTtzOjY6ImMwMToyLiI7aTo2O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo3O3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLiI7aTo4O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aTo5O3M6MTg6ImMwMToyLmMwMjowLmMwMzowLiI7aToxMDtzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6MS4iO2k6MTE7czoxMjoiYzAxOjIuYzAyOjEuIjtpOjEyO3M6MTI6ImMwMToyLmMwMjo4LiI7aToxMztzOjEyOiJjMDE6Mi5jMDI6OC4iO30%3D/eadid/1.05.01.01/open/c01%3A2.c02%3A8./inventarisnr/18C/level/file

    07/09/2013 01:00:47
    1. Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 8, Issue 108

    3. I would like to know the marriage date for Willem Cornell and Margaret Polhemus as well. I am a descendant of Willem Cornell's brother Pieter Cornell. Thanks! Mary Jane McGuire -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-request <dutch-colonies-request@rootsweb.com> To: dutch-colonies <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sun, Jul 7, 2013 3:11 am Subject: DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 8, Issue 108 Today's Topics: 1. Marriage date for Willem Cornell and Margaret Polhemus (James Nevius) 2. Re: Marriage date for Willem Cornell and Margaret Polhemus (Mell White) Attached Message From: James Nevius <james.nevius@gmail.com> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage date for Willem Cornell and MargaretPolhemus Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 13:28:55 -1000 Does anyone have a generally accepted date for their marriage? I'm not seeing one in any of the records I can easily access online or in this message boards archive. Thanks, James * * * * James Nevius author of "Inside the Apple: A Streetwise History of New York City" “A smart and entertaining window on the city of the past.” —The New York Times http://www.insidetheapple.net And don't forget to read our NYC history blog at http://blog.insidetheapple.net Attached Message From: Mell White <mellwhite1@gmail.com> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Marriage date for Willem Cornell and MargaretPolhemus Date: Sat, 6 Jul 2013 19:12:59 -0500 Hi James, They are my 8th great-grandparents and I need the same information. I also have Willem's birth about 1625 and would like a more definite date if anyone has that. My grandparents are Nevius & Schomp. Thank you everyone for all the help you have given through the years! Mell White in Mission, Kansas On Sat, Jul 6, 2013 at 6:28 PM, James Nevius <james.nevius@gmail.com> wrote: > Does anyone have a generally accepted date for their marriage? I'm not > seeing one in any of the records I can easily access online or in this > message boards archive. > > Thanks, > James > > * * * * > James Nevius > author of "Inside the Apple: A Streetwise History of New York City" > “A smart and entertaining window on the city of the past.” —The New York > Times > http://www.insidetheapple.net > > And don't forget to read our NYC history blog at > http://blog.insidetheapple.net > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > To contact the DUTCH-COLONIES list administrator, send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DUTCH-COLONIES mailing list, send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text.

    07/08/2013 09:50:11