I could use direction to or advice for an upcoming visit to Netherlands and Belgium that I'm planning to take in April. We are descendants of the Van Ettens (Jannetje) of Etten and Manuel Gonsaulis of Spain and Netherlands. Has anyone else in the group had any hands on experience conducting research in Europe and know sites that provide instructions and research info? Thanks for your assistance in my plans. Pamela Pamela Turner pturnertaylor@adelphia.net NE OHIO

I just entered Low Dutch and the site came up. I will try again and see if I can find the site name. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bob Lefler" <lefler@northnet.org> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > Where is it?? Bob Lefler > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Donna Stark" <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> > To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:19 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > > >> Does everyone know about the Low Dutch site that has Conewago Baptisms >> for >> 1769-1793? It is very easy to find. It is late for my ancestors but is >> good >> to know it is there. >> >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Larry Voreis" <lvoreis@charter.net> >> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:00 PM >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY >> >> >>> Kentucky historical markers can be found online through the Kentucky >>> Historical Society's site at >>> http://www.kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/ >>> >>> Here is the marker for Painted Stone: >>> >>> Squire Boone's Station, 1779 >>> (Marker Number: 28) >>> >>> County: Shelby >>> Location: Shelbyville, 5th & Main Sts., US 60 >>> >>> Description: "Painted Stone" 21/2 miles north on Eminence Road, thence, >>> 1/2 >>> mile west to site on Clear Creek. For nearly 2 years only large station >>> on >>> the Wilderness Road between Harrodstown and the Falls of the Ohio River. >>> Ground plan found among papers of Gen. George Rogers Clark. Disastrous >>> attack by Indians 1781-re-occupied by the whites. First improved >>> 1775-called >>> "Painted Stone Tract" 1776. >>> >>> Regards, >>> Larry Voreis >>> >>> >>>> Hi Donna, >>>> I, for one, would love to see the picture of the historical marker for >>>> the >>>> Boone settlement. >>>> My Dutch SLOT/SLOAT family went there and then changed their name to >>>> LOCK, >>>> which made the search harder to say the least. >>>> Also what is the address of the site you referred to? >>>> Phyllis >>>> <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers >>>> free >>>> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >>>> http://www.aol.com. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>>> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi Ethel, From: <ETHELKK@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:18 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck - Joint will dated 9 Aug1670 > Need joint will of Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck and Maria Vigne. > > Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck married Maria Ghislain Vigne, d/o Ghislain Vigne > and Adrienne Cuvilje. They had nine known children. Abigael, Galeyn, Catalyn, > Isaac, Susanna, Jacomyntie, Ariaentje, Hillegond and Isaac. Abraham and > Maria made a joint will dated 9 August 1670 and proved 24 July 1672. Where can > I find a copy of this will? > > 24 July 1672. On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram > Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and > made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court. [RNA > Vol.6:339] This appears to me to be the Dutch type of joint testamentary deposition. These were recorded in the register or notebook of the notary or provincial secretary. I do not believe the notebook of Dirck van Schelluyne has survived, so I think you will be out of luck. As I would expect, this instrument does not seem to have been copied into the will libers, as Peter mentioned. Nor does it appear to be among the unrecorded wills that have survived. For more details on this type of will, see the intro to Fernow's Calendar of Wills. I assume that this probate was occasioned by the death of Maria, because on p. 214 of CEM under the date of Aug. 11, 1691, we see: "Petition. Jacobus Kip, for letters of administration on the estate of Abraham Ver Plank, late of New York, deceased." The full text of this petition is on p. 226 of Vol. XXXVII of O'Callaghan's numbering of the Colonial Mss; this one being during the time of Govs. Sloughter and Ingoldesby. Since Abraham Ver Planck lived in Smith's Valley in 1665 (see RNA V:225) I did not look outside the New York (City) area for the will you ask about. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

I do not find Verplanck's will in either the New York Historical Society's first volume of abstracts of wills, nor in Berthold Fernow's Calendar of Wills. I know that Fernow missed some wills, so it's still possible it was probated, but the odds don't look very good. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <ETHELKK@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck - Joint will dated 9Aug 1670 > > Barbara, > > I quoted the entire article. 24 July 1672. "On this day was the Will & > Testament made betwixt Abram > Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August > 1670 > and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court." > [RNA Vol.6:339] > > Please note. The name Vigne is spelled Vinge in the will. > > The Records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 Anno Domini [RNA} 7 > vol. > on cd > Edited by Berthold Fernow > Volume VI Minutes of the Court of Burgomasters and Schepens 8 May 1666 > to > 5 Sept 1673. > > Ethel > > > ================================== > In a message dated 3/6/2007 barbarademare@yahoo.com writes: > > Ethel, > > In what court was the will probated? What you quoted just says "the > Court." > If it is New York I am going there tomorrow, but if memory serves me > right > it would have been in Albany. I have to probate a will in New York > County, > so will stay and research the rest of the day (the probate records are > one > floor beneath the probate office). As these are also my direct > ancestors, I > would love to get the will. > > Barbara > > ETHELKK@aol.com wrote: > Need joint will of Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck and Maria Vigne. > > Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck married Maria Ghislain Vigne, d/o Ghislain > Vigne > and Adrienne Cuvilje. They had nine known children. Abigael, Galeyn, > Catalyn, > Isaac, Susanna, Jacomyntie, Ariaentje, Hillegond and Isaac. Abraham and > Maria made a joint will dated 9 August 1670 and proved 24 July 1672. > Where > can > I find a copy of this will? > > 24 July 1672. On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram > Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August > 1670 > and > made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court. [RNA > Vol.6:339] > > Regards, Ethel > > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Barbara, I quoted the entire article. 24 July 1672. "On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court." [RNA Vol.6:339] Please note. The name Vigne is spelled Vinge in the will. The Records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 Anno Domini [RNA} 7 vol. on cd Edited by Berthold Fernow Volume VI Minutes of the Court of Burgomasters and Schepens 8 May 1666 to 5 Sept 1673. Ethel ================================== In a message dated 3/6/2007 barbarademare@yahoo.com writes: Ethel, In what court was the will probated? What you quoted just says "the Court." If it is New York I am going there tomorrow, but if memory serves me right it would have been in Albany. I have to probate a will in New York County, so will stay and research the rest of the day (the probate records are one floor beneath the probate office). As these are also my direct ancestors, I would love to get the will. Barbara ETHELKK@aol.com wrote: Need joint will of Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck and Maria Vigne. Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck married Maria Ghislain Vigne, d/o Ghislain Vigne and Adrienne Cuvilje. They had nine known children. Abigael, Galeyn, Catalyn, Isaac, Susanna, Jacomyntie, Ariaentje, Hillegond and Isaac. Abraham and Maria made a joint will dated 9 August 1670 and proved 24 July 1672. Where can I find a copy of this will? 24 July 1672. On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court. [RNA Vol.6:339] Regards, Ethel ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Where is it?? Bob Lefler ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Stark" <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 10:19 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > Does everyone know about the Low Dutch site that has Conewago Baptisms for > 1769-1793? It is very easy to find. It is late for my ancestors but is > good > to know it is there. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Larry Voreis" <lvoreis@charter.net> > To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:00 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > > >> Kentucky historical markers can be found online through the Kentucky >> Historical Society's site at >> http://www.kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/ >> >> Here is the marker for Painted Stone: >> >> Squire Boone's Station, 1779 >> (Marker Number: 28) >> >> County: Shelby >> Location: Shelbyville, 5th & Main Sts., US 60 >> >> Description: "Painted Stone" 21/2 miles north on Eminence Road, thence, >> 1/2 >> mile west to site on Clear Creek. For nearly 2 years only large station >> on >> the Wilderness Road between Harrodstown and the Falls of the Ohio River. >> Ground plan found among papers of Gen. George Rogers Clark. Disastrous >> attack by Indians 1781-re-occupied by the whites. First improved >> 1775-called >> "Painted Stone Tract" 1776. >> >> Regards, >> Larry Voreis >> >> >>> Hi Donna, >>> I, for one, would love to see the picture of the historical marker for >>> the >>> Boone settlement. >>> My Dutch SLOT/SLOAT family went there and then changed their name to >>> LOCK, >>> which made the search harder to say the least. >>> Also what is the address of the site you referred to? >>> Phyllis >>> <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers >>> free >>> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >>> http://www.aol.com. >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Need joint will of Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck and Maria Vigne. Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck married Maria Ghislain Vigne, d/o Ghislain Vigne and Adrienne Cuvilje. They had nine known children. Abigael, Galeyn, Catalyn, Isaac, Susanna, Jacomyntie, Ariaentje, Hillegond and Isaac. Abraham and Maria made a joint will dated 9 August 1670 and proved 24 July 1672. Where can I find a copy of this will? 24 July 1672. On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court. [RNA Vol.6:339] Regards, Ethel <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Does everyone know about the Low Dutch site that has Conewago Baptisms for 1769-1793? It is very easy to find. It is late for my ancestors but is good to know it is there. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Voreis" <lvoreis@charter.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > Kentucky historical markers can be found online through the Kentucky > Historical Society's site at > http://www.kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/ > > Here is the marker for Painted Stone: > > Squire Boone's Station, 1779 > (Marker Number: 28) > > County: Shelby > Location: Shelbyville, 5th & Main Sts., US 60 > > Description: "Painted Stone" 21/2 miles north on Eminence Road, thence, > 1/2 > mile west to site on Clear Creek. For nearly 2 years only large station on > the Wilderness Road between Harrodstown and the Falls of the Ohio River. > Ground plan found among papers of Gen. George Rogers Clark. Disastrous > attack by Indians 1781-re-occupied by the whites. First improved > 1775-called > "Painted Stone Tract" 1776. > > Regards, > Larry Voreis > > >> Hi Donna, >> I, for one, would love to see the picture of the historical marker for >> the >> Boone settlement. >> My Dutch SLOT/SLOAT family went there and then changed their name to >> LOCK, >> which made the search harder to say the least. >> Also what is the address of the site you referred to? >> Phyllis >> <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers >> free >> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Where do youlive Larry? Are you close to Shelbyville in Kentucky? My uncle was named Voris Montfort. If you are descended from either Francis or James Vories, born in the late 1700's in Kentucky, I have a picture of them both. Francis has faded out but you can still see the image. I was so lucky tht a 2nd cousin had tintypes and let me borrow them to make copies. My maternal grandad's gr mother was Katherine Vories and I hve her picture also. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Voreis" <lvoreis@charter.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > Kentucky historical markers can be found online through the Kentucky > Historical Society's site at > http://www.kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/ > > Here is the marker for Painted Stone: > > Squire Boone's Station, 1779 > (Marker Number: 28) > > County: Shelby > Location: Shelbyville, 5th & Main Sts., US 60 > > Description: "Painted Stone" 21/2 miles north on Eminence Road, thence, > 1/2 > mile west to site on Clear Creek. For nearly 2 years only large station on > the Wilderness Road between Harrodstown and the Falls of the Ohio River. > Ground plan found among papers of Gen. George Rogers Clark. Disastrous > attack by Indians 1781-re-occupied by the whites. First improved > 1775-called > "Painted Stone Tract" 1776. > > Regards, > Larry Voreis > > >> Hi Donna, >> I, for one, would love to see the picture of the historical marker for >> the >> Boone settlement. >> My Dutch SLOT/SLOAT family went there and then changed their name to >> LOCK, >> which made the search harder to say the least. >> Also what is the address of the site you referred to? >> Phyllis >> <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers >> free >> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Thanks, Ethel. I will see what they have at the archives when I am there tomorrow. ETHELKK@aol.com wrote: Barbara, I quoted the entire article. 24 July 1672. "On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court." [RNA Vol.6:339] Please note. The name Vigne is spelled Vinge in the will. The Records of New Amsterdam from 1653 to 1674 Anno Domini [RNA} 7 vol. on cd Edited by Berthold Fernow Volume VI Minutes of the Court of Burgomasters and Schepens 8 May 1666 to 5 Sept 1673. Ethel ================================== In a message dated 3/6/2007 barbarademare@yahoo.com writes: Ethel, In what court was the will probated? What you quoted just says "the Court." If it is New York I am going there tomorrow, but if memory serves me right it would have been in Albany. I have to probate a will in New York County, so will stay and research the rest of the day (the probate records are one floor beneath the probate office). As these are also my direct ancestors, I would love to get the will. Barbara ETHELKK@aol.com wrote: Need joint will of Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck and Maria Vigne. Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck married Maria Ghislain Vigne, d/o Ghislain Vigne and Adrienne Cuvilje. They had nine known children. Abigael, Galeyn, Catalyn, Isaac, Susanna, Jacomyntie, Ariaentje, Hillegond and Isaac. Abraham and Maria made a joint will dated 9 August 1670 and proved 24 July 1672. Where can I find a copy of this will? 24 July 1672. On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court. [RNA Vol.6:339] Regards, Ethel ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/

Thanks, now I won't need to take a picture. I have never checked the KHS site, even though I work with them closely. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Voreis" <lvoreis@charter.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 9:00 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Low Dutch - KY > Kentucky historical markers can be found online through the Kentucky > Historical Society's site at > http://www.kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/ > > Here is the marker for Painted Stone: > > Squire Boone's Station, 1779 > (Marker Number: 28) > > County: Shelby > Location: Shelbyville, 5th & Main Sts., US 60 > > Description: "Painted Stone" 21/2 miles north on Eminence Road, thence, > 1/2 > mile west to site on Clear Creek. For nearly 2 years only large station on > the Wilderness Road between Harrodstown and the Falls of the Ohio River. > Ground plan found among papers of Gen. George Rogers Clark. Disastrous > attack by Indians 1781-re-occupied by the whites. First improved > 1775-called > "Painted Stone Tract" 1776. > > Regards, > Larry Voreis > > >> Hi Donna, >> I, for one, would love to see the picture of the historical marker for >> the >> Boone settlement. >> My Dutch SLOT/SLOAT family went there and then changed their name to >> LOCK, >> which made the search harder to say the least. >> Also what is the address of the site you referred to? >> Phyllis >> <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers >> free >> email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at >> http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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Ethel, In what court was the will probated? What you quoted just says "the Court." If it is New York I am going there tomorrow, but if memory serves me right it would have been in Albany. I have to probate a will in New York County, so will stay and research the rest of the day (the probate records are one floor beneath the probate office). As these are also my direct ancestors, I would love to get the will. Barbara ETHELKK@aol.com wrote: Need joint will of Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck and Maria Vigne. Abraham Isaacsz Verplanck married Maria Ghislain Vigne, d/o Ghislain Vigne and Adrienne Cuvilje. They had nine known children. Abigael, Galeyn, Catalyn, Isaac, Susanna, Jacomyntie, Ariaentje, Hillegond and Isaac. Abraham and Maria made a joint will dated 9 August 1670 and proved 24 July 1672. Where can I find a copy of this will? 24 July 1672. On this day was the Will & Testament made betwixt Abram Verplanck and his late Wife Maria Vinge bearing date the 9th of August 1670 and made by Notary Dirck van Schelluyne, Proved and allowed of in Court. [RNA Vol.6:339] Regards, Ethel ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/

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"The Boone Family" by Hazel Afterbury Spraker, pp 72-83 Squire Boone, brother to the famous pioneer Daniel Boone, first came to present day Shelby County in 1775. He writes, " In the spring of the year 1776, I came again to the same place and took a stone out of the creek and with a mill pick, picked my name in full and the date of the year thereon, and I painted the letter and figures all red from which this tract of land took the name of Painted Stone Station." Squire Boone, Jr., was married to Jane Van Cleave d/o Aaron Van Cleave and Rachel Schenk. Angela <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Howard Thank you for the follow-up. I had gone through list archives and found the previous discussions about the Verlet family. > Hoffman shows that Casper's parents married in 1590 at Cologne. Very nice, thank you. The 1590 marriage fits perfectly. But did Hoffman make a note giving the source of this claim? > If George Hack (who marr. Anna Verlet) was born in 1620 then we might assume Anna was born about then or a little later. Yes, I agree. That was one of my original red flags with the supposed "Anna Leisler Herman". Because she was supposed to have married George Nicolas Hack, son of this Joris aka George. Yet, if the story is true about Augustine's and her father being killed around 1619, then she must be born before then. And if so, she would be of the generation of Joris, and not of his son. > Later I got a chance to see the extensive article on the family by Edwin Purple in NYGBR starting in vol 9, p. 54 and continuing for several issues. That was April, July and Ocober 1878, and April 1879. Looks as if only the July 1878 issue is still available from NYGBS. PERSI says the Ft Wayne library has them. Are all four of these issues on the NYGBR CD? > You should also read NYGBR vol 71, pp 117-119, which has an interesting deposition of Judith Varlet re. their arrival. Is this the account of the 1650 arrival on the "Fortuyn"? In which she remembers that Abraham, son of her brother Nicholas Verlet, was born as the ship was near Martha's Vineyard? > Mr. Hoffman also found Casper's marriage at Utrecht on 17 Oct 1615 to Judith Tintenier. Yes. Frans Gouverneur also found a baptism in Utrecht of probably the first child, Abraham: Baptism in the Utrecht Walloon Church: 6 Oct 1616 Abraham; parents: Gaspar Varlet, Judith Tintenier; witn.: Guillaume Tintenier, Magdaleine widow of Abraham Tintenier. [[msg posted to D-Col on 13 Jan 2004 -- thank you Frans]] They are probably naming this son after the maternal grandfather. (Edwin Purple) > He shows the same 5 children of Casper Varlet as does David Riker: > Nicholas, Jannetje, Maria, Catherina, and Judith. > The court records in New Amsterdam show that Paulus Schrick > (who m. Maria Verlet) called Guiliam Verlett his brother in law. > [RNA 3:29] Guiliam is also said to be deceased then (26 Aug 1659) > Also, on 28 June 1655, Judith Verleth refers to her sister, Sarah. > [RNA 1:326] Could she be a sister in law, instead? The most > likely, it seems to me, would be possibly the wife of Guiliam. No, she was a sister. Sara was baptized 1 May 1639 - Oude kerk, Amsterdam. Her parents were Caspar Verlet and Judith Tentenier; witn.: Jan Cornelis Lichthart, admirael, Lijsbeth Schilt, Machtelt Verlet [bron 7 p.209]. Machtelt Verlet here is probably the aunt, Machtelt (Janse) van Bree, wife of Peter Verlet. I don't know what became of her, does anyone? Probably she died, maybe at Hartford. Nothing shows up in the index to the Amsterdam Doopregister in the appropriate time period for William or Guilliaume. Maybe he married in another city, or maybe he never married. > The name "Anne Leisler Herman" doesn't make sense to me. I've never seen someone with a surname as a middle name in that time period. And since she is said there to be the sister of Augustine Herman, then Leisler couldn't even be a maiden name. Ie. she couldn't be Anna Leisler who married _____ Herman. It made no sense to me either. I checked all through what is available about the Leisler family and did not find anyone who seemed to fit. The D-Col archives and a couple of websites about the Leisler papers were excellent. But I sure don't see where any Anna of this group could have married Joris Hack's son. >> "On Thursday Sept 17th, 1663, it was ordered that "an Acte of >> Naturalizacon be prepared for Augustine Herman, and his Children and >> his brother in Lawe George Hack and his wife and Children."" > This seems the best evidence to date that Anna Verlet was a dau. of Casper and a sister to Jannetie who married Augustine. Could there be another way Augustine and George could be brothers in law? I am fairly satisfied that Anna was an older sister of Jannetje's and the others. here is another goodie about Anna Verlet and siblings: This record probably exists somewhere in New Amsterdam/New York archives, but it was also recorded in Northampton/Accomack county Virginia. "On 9 August 1652, Mrs. Anna Varlet the wife of Mr. George Hacke dwelling in Virginia as having power thereunto by letters from her said husband, she declared to have bought from the seller a certain pinnace named "The Fortune" lying at anchor at Amersterdam in the New Netherlands for the sum of 1300 guilders. The payment of the aforewritten moneys agreed upon the security as aforesaid is to make payment and the before written pinnace with the appertentions belonging thereunto the aforesaid is by William Varlett in the name and on the behalf of his sister the buyer thereof... securities Gespair Varlett and Nicholas Varlett." (Northampton, VA Wills, Deeds, etc., Vol. 4:113). I don't see any other way Joris/george Hack and Augustine Herman could be brothers in law except throughthe Verlet sisters, Anna and Jannetje, or else through a sister of Augustine who is somehow invisible. Augustine Herman's second wife was said to have been Catherine Ward. Defying Occam's Razor with suppositions, we could imagine that IF Augustine had married an Anna who somehow had the Leisler surname, then Augustine's widow could have been called Anna Leisler Herman. But in looking through all I could find on this family, I don't see any Anna in the Leisler family who would fit into the appropriate time slot. One last question I have is about Susanna Wissenbach Leisler, mother of Jacob Leisler. She may have come to New Amsterdam --in 1664 a "Susanna Leydsler" witnesses the baptism of Susanna Leisler, oldest daughter of Jacob Leisler and Elsje Tymens. If this is Jacob's mother, she was a widow at the time. A 'Susanna' could (and has) become known as "Anna" in the same way that Catherina becomes "Tryntje." Following this, IF this Susanna Leisler married ___ Herman, then married George Nicholas Hack (who was born about 1646), and IF somehow her name was truncated to "Anna", she at last would have become "Anna Leisler Herman Hack." But this is such a hairy notion that Occam's Razor would certainly depilate it. Thanks again, Howard. You are one of my all-time heroes. Best to all, Liz J On 3/5/07, Howard Swain <hswain@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > Hi Liz, > > From: "E Johnson" <iris.gates@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 01, 2007 8:21 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Anna HERMAN > > > The earliest generations of the Colonial HACK family of Eastern Shore > > Virginia and Maryland have a series of sons called George Nicholas and > > they also have many wives called Ann. > > > > One of my biggest questions lately is whether or not there was a > > George Nicholas HACK, son of the Joris HACK who was baptized in Cologne in > > 1620, and his wife Ann VERLET, sister of Jannetje VERLET, > > Augustine HERMAN's wife. Their son, George Nicholas, probably born > > around 1646, is said to have married "Anna Leisler HERMAN." But > > nobody seems to have documentation on this marriage and as you > > (Howard) noticed, there's not much if anything around on the Anna > > HERMAN who is supposed to be the sister of Augustine. > > We had a discussion on this list back in Dec 2003 to Jan 2004 on the > Verleth / Varlet family. (Other priorities came up for me and I had > to bow out around the end of Dec.) Later I got a chance to see the > extensive article on the family by Edwin Purple in NYGBR starting in > vol 9, p. 54 and continuing for several issues. > > He shows the same 5 children of Casper Varlet as does David Riker: > Nicholas, Jannetje, Maria, Catherina, and Judith. > The court records in New Amsterdam show that Paulus Schrick > (who m. Maria Verlet) called Guiliam Verlett his brother in law. > [RNA 3:29] Guiliam is also said to be deceased then (26 Aug 1659) > Also, on 28 June 1655, Judith Verleth refers to her sister, Sarah. > [RNA 1:326] Could she be a sister in law, instead? The most > likely, it seems to me, would be possibly the wife of Guiliam. > > For what its worth, on that same page (326) O'Callaghan has footnote > listing the siblings of Judith Verleth: > Nicholas, Janneke, "Anna, wife of George Hawke of Virginia", Maria, Catharine, and Sarah. > > I believe we discussed 3 years ago that there was a Anna Verlett, > wife of George Hack. See, eg., CDM p. 129. > > Mr. Purple also mentions them and thinks she was probably a > sister of Casper. > > You should also read NYGBR vol 71, pp 117-119, which has an > interesting deposition of Judith Varlet re. their arrival. And is followed > by research in Europe by William Hoffman. He found siblings of Casper > as: Pieter, Daniel, and Catharina. > > So, far no one seems to have definitively proven whether the > wife of George Hack is Casper's daughter or sister or niece or whatever. > > Mr. Hoffman also found Casper's marriage at Utrecht on 17 Oct 1615 to > Judith Tintenier. > > If George Hack (who marr. Anna Verlet) was born in 1620 then we > might assume Anna was born about then or a little later. > Hoffman shows that Casper's parents married in 1590 at Cologne. From these > dates it seems more likely that Anna was the dau. of Casper rather than > his sister. However, she could also be a niece, it seems to me. > > I note also that Mr. Hoffman shows that Catharina Varleth (sister of Casper) > married Jacques Hack. So, there is another possible connection between > the families. > > > > Joris HACK and Anna Verlet also had son Peter who had many > > descendents. But for now the focus is on son george Nicholas and his > > wife or wives. > > > > The possibility have been raised that two generations of men called > > "George Nicolas > > HACK could have been made of one --George N #1 married "Anna Leisler > > HERMAN"; George N #2 married Ann Wright. > > > > Info on these two generations of Joris HACK descendents seems to have > > come from a monument on a grave: > > > > The only place anyone seems to cite as a source for this supposed > > marriage to "Anna Leisler HERMAN" is in a book which describes a > > memorial obelisk in Fairview Cemetery in Accomack County VA, near the > > HACK home. This obelisk was erected by descendents, possibly in place > > of or above a > > group of family tombstones. Ralph T. Whitelaw in Vol. II of Virginia's > > Eastern Shore, pps. 658-659 makes comments and gives the text of > > inscriptions on the faces of this monument. He has no sources but is > > simply reporting what is engraved in the stone. He says "Some years > > ago, all of the tombstones in the family graveyard were buried, a > > granite coping set around the plot, and a shaft raised in > > the center. Upon the shaft is inscribed: > > > > WEST FACE > > > > (Hack Coat of Arms) > > > > In Memory of > > Dr. Joris Hack, baptized > > in Cologne, Germany, March > > 20, 1620, died in Virginia, 1665; > > Married Anna Varlett > > daughter of Casper and > > Judith Varlett > > Their son, Dr. George > > Nicholas Hack, born in > > Cologne, Germany, died in > > Accomac County, Virginia; > > Married Anne Leisler > > Herman, born in Amsterdam, > > Holland, sister of > > Augustine Herman of > > Bohemian Manor, > > Cecil County, Maryland, > > Lieutenant Colonel George > > Nicholas Hack, died 1705. > > and Ann, his wife, daughter of > > Richard Wright and Ann. > > his wife, daughter of Colonel John. > > Mottrom of Northern > > Neck, Virginia." > > > > The other sides of the shaft have inscriptions about descendents of Joris HACK. > > <snip> > > > There is an image online of this monument. It's impossible to tell > > from the image if the motto and the words, "Joris Hack 1646" are on > > the crest, and simply not reported in the second descriptiion of this > > monument. > > http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/g/o/d/Bryan-S-Godfrey/PHOTO/0267photo.html > > The text at the bottom says it was erected in 1929. > That is about 300 years after the fact. > Who knows what they based the info on. > > The name "Anne Leisler Herman" doesn't make sense to me. > I've never seen someone with a surname as a middle name > in that time period. And since she is said there to be the > sister of Augustine Herman, then Leisler couldn't even be > a maiden name. Ie. she couldn't be Anna Leisler who > married _____ Herman. Unless -- maybe she married a > brother (assuming one existed) of Augustine, and so is > Augustine's sister-in-law. Of course, if that were the case > in the 17th C. she would be normally be called Anna Leisler > or maybe Anna Herman. > > > In the absence of evidence of "Anne Leisler Herman's" existence, I > > wonder if a source of confusion may have been the 1663 and 1666 > > petitions for naturalization of Augustine Herman and his wife and > > children, with Anna and Joris/George Hack and their children. In those > > documents, transcripts of which are in Maryland State Archives, > > Augustine HERMAN and Joris (George) HACK are described as > > brothers-in-law. In MSA Volume 1, Page 462 "Proceedings and Acts of > > the General Assembly January 1637/8-September 1664" is a record of a > > petition of > > Augustine Herman for an "Act of Naturalizacon for himselfe, Children > > and his brother in Lawe George Hack." > > "On Thursday Sept 17th, 1663, it was ordered that "an Acte of > > Naturalizacon be prepared for Augustine Herman, and his Children and > > his brother in Lawe George Hack and his wife and Children."" > > This seems the best evidence to date that Anna Verlet was a dau. of Casper > and a sister to Jannetie who married Augustine. Could there be another > way Augustine and George could be brothers in law? > > > Regards, > Howard > hswain@ix.netcom.com > Standard Source Abbreviations: > http://www.newyorkfamilyhistory.org/modules.php?name=Sections&op=viewarticle&artid=96 > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Kentucky historical markers can be found online through the Kentucky Historical Society's site at http://www.kentucky.gov/kyhs/hmdb/ Here is the marker for Painted Stone: Squire Boone's Station, 1779 (Marker Number: 28) County: Shelby Location: Shelbyville, 5th & Main Sts., US 60 Description: "Painted Stone" 21/2 miles north on Eminence Road, thence, 1/2 mile west to site on Clear Creek. For nearly 2 years only large station on the Wilderness Road between Harrodstown and the Falls of the Ohio River. Ground plan found among papers of Gen. George Rogers Clark. Disastrous attack by Indians 1781-re-occupied by the whites. First improved 1775-called "Painted Stone Tract" 1776. Regards, Larry Voreis > Hi Donna, > I, for one, would love to see the picture of the historical marker for the > Boone settlement. > My Dutch SLOT/SLOAT family went there and then changed their name to LOCK, > which made the search harder to say the least. > Also what is the address of the site you referred to? > Phyllis > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Faye: I don't know if they are related to you or not. But I knew an Edward Van Brunt, b: abt 1915 married to a Mazzie ?. They lived in Monsey, Rockland co., New York. He was a good outdoorsman. He taught me to run a trap line as a boy. He had several brothers, I don't remember their names. They had 2 sons, one son killed himself. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX Genealogy <genealogy@cfrobbins.com> wrote: Thank you. I did have info that stated Isaac Snedeker's wife was Catelyna Janse I need to verify that my Garret is the son of Roelef & Elsie. I know there guite a bit of info out there. Just not the family group I was working on. I have 3 separate files for different Van Brunt & connected families. The Snedecker's are one of those families. This way I can go back & forth if I think I have found some connection. I am so close I can feel them over my shoulder, but I need to document it if possible.If that isn't possible then I need to find anything to make it the most probable fit. I just can't believe we finally broke down the HUGE brick wall that was Isaac. I had thought for the longest time that he may be the son of Albert I. & Rebecca Miller Van Brunt. Because of the fact that Rebecca's b& d dates were absolutely impossible in Bergan's history; and his family always lived in the same proximity as Cornelia Bennett Barkaloo Van Brunt, Albert's 2nd wife. And their daughter Rebecca & son in law John Smith were living in the place Lucretia had lived prior. But now it seems that my Isaac & Albert were probably first cousins. If our Garret IS Roelef & Elsie's son, then we have a great amount of history to add to the family heritage. Isaac's son Cortland made a great life for himself and his family in NEPA. The family is still here in great numbers. Sorry...I am so long winded here. BUT I am so excited to have finally found Isaac's parents and my children's 5th great grandparents on this side. Faye ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- Want to start your own business? Learn how on Yahoo! Small Business.

There once was a Hechtian collection of cynical, hard-drinking, underpaid ink-stained wretches (or so they liked to think themselves) called the Chicago City New Bureau. Their unofficial motto applies to Wikipedia, Brittanica, Pierson, Riker, Fernow and anything you see on this mail list: "If your mother says she loves you, CHECK IT OUT." --pete ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jacassidy22@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, March 05, 2007 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Wikipedia Free Encyclopedia > I can only tell you what the article stated, it was not my statement, > however, since they use volunteers to enter the material, apparently what is > entered is not always accurate. The editor of Wikipedia agreed. So I guess it is a > reader beware situation. > > Judy > <BR><BR><BR>**************************************<BR> AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pete, I corresponded with Linda Schwenn about a year ago on the VanArnhem line. She was trying to find info on the Green Mountain Boys too. If you want to discuss fits, try this: My husband and I share the same VanArnhem ancestors. Both of our fourth great grandfathers descend from Luykas VanArnhem. My husband's branch settled in Michigan, while mine settled in Iowa. Mine changed the name to VanOrNAM while his changed the surname to VanOrMAN His ancestor is Abraham VanOrman, mine is Daniel VanOrnam. Now I'm on a quest to find more information on my third great grandmother, Abigail Frisby or Frisbee. She was married to Peter VanOrnum. I believe they both died in Essex co. New York. Sandy ----- Original Message ----- From: j. gonigam<mailto:gonigam@gmail.com> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:37 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VanArnhem/ Fonda Dear Sandra-- Sorry, my error. (I only know about these people to separate them from my own Van Arnams.) Linda Schwenn pointed out that I've confused Luykas and his brother Isaac. Luykas descendants are the ones who ended up around LaColle, Quebec. Isaac's followed Ira Allen further north into Vermont around Shelburne. As a matter of fact, my confusion probably stems from the abduction of Luykas' wife to Canada during the Revolution. I don't think I've ever found an actual account of that. Perhaps Linda has. Nor have I been able to figure out the parents of Sara Paine; if you ever do I need to know since there is a Paine family that shows up (extremely) tangential to the Van Arnhems back in New Amsterdam/New York City. While I'm at it, no one knows when Jannetje Salsbury died although it is clear that Isaac(1704) Van Arnam had a wife named Elizabeth by 1754 when he begins to appear in the Albany DRC records again. There is no record of the birth of sons Isaac and Abraham in 1744 (if their tombstones, one of which no longer exists, are to be believed) so it's unclear if they are Luykas' brothers or half-brothers. Isaac(1704) and his family just give me fits I've received no offline msg. You can reach me at gonigam@gmail.com<mailto:gonigam@gmail.com> . --pete ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sandra VanOrman" <sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com>> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VanArnhem/ Fonda > Hi Peter > > This answers some questions about Luykas VanArnhem However, I read somewhere that his wife Sarah Paine was a Prisoner Of War.. do you know anything about that? I also have it noted that he died in Bennington Co Vermont and is buried there. But I guess that information is wrong. > The only information I have on Sarah is she was born 1742, in Hoosick, Rensselaerwick, New York, and died in 1780.(Place unknown) > > Thanks for the information on Luykas VanArnhem, it is very much appreciated. > > Did you receive my email? > > Sandra VanOrman > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: j. gonigam<mailto:gonigam@gmail.com<mailto:gonigam@gmail.com>> > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Sunday, March 04, 2007 7:06 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VanArnhem/ Fonda > > > Dear Sandra-- > > What do you want to kow about Luykas Van Arnhem? He was the son of Isaac > (1704) Van Arnhem and Jannetje Salisbury/Van Salsbergen/various, baptised at > the Athens Lutheran Church 1738. He and brothers Isaac and Abraham were > kidnapped by Indians during a raid near Pownal, VT, in 1758, all > repatriated, apparently after the fall of Montreal. He married Sarah Paine > (although no one has found a record of it) and had a pile of children. He > was in Pownal for a while and then had his own farm somewhere between Hoosic > and Schagticoke as near as I can tell. Besides the "Green Mountain Boys" > service he was also shows in at least one Albany militia unit, as I recall. > (Luykas was the only Van Arnhem of that name at that time.) > After the war Luke and brothers Isaac and John (or John's son John) (and > sister Rachel who married Derrick Webb) all seem to have drifted north > to locations mostly in Essex County, NY, and in Isaac's case, just over > the border into Quebec. In Webb's case, at least, he migrated to secure > free land to Revolutionary veterans. > > --pete > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sandra VanOrman" <sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com>>> > To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com>>> > Sent: Saturday, March 03, 2007 5:46 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VanArnhem/ Fonda > > > > Hi Ethel, > > > > Thanks for the email. I found the information on Hester Fonda's birth and > death dates at Ancestry.com. > > Its not always a reliable source, but I saved the information as tentative > dates, until I could find more documentation. > > > > I've been trying to find more information on Luykas (or Luke) VanArnhem. > According to Donald A. Smith, Ph.D. he was one of five members of the > VanArnhem family who were members of the Green Mountain Boys from Pownal, > Vermont. I am descended from Lukyas VanArnhem through his son, Peter > VanOrnum. (Notice the change in spelling). > > Peter's son, Daniel VanOrnum was my third great grand father. > > > > Regards, > > Sandy VanOrman > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: ETHELKK@aol.com<mailto:ETHELKK@aol.com<mailto:ETHELKK@aol.com<mailto:ETHELKK<mailto:ETHELKK@aol.com<mailto:ETHELKK@aol.com<mailto:ETHELKK@aol.com<mailto:ETHELKK> @aol.com>> > > To: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch<mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch>- Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com>>> > > Sent: Friday, March 02, 2007 3:55 PM > > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] VanArnhem/ Fonda > > > > > > Sorry, resending my last message. > > > > Hi Sandra, > > > > You wrote <I have a Hester Douwse Fonda listed as a wife for Jan > Janse > > VanArnhem. She > > was born 1677 in Albany, New York and died 1 April 1708 in NY. Was she > the > > second wife of Jan? I have their marriage date as 14 Oct. 1696 in > Albany. > > Jans > > was also married to Sarah Theunis 28 June 1664.> > > > > > > > > Jan Jansz Van Aernhem, Bp: 4 June 1671, son of Jan Dirksz VanArnhem > and > > Sara > > Theunis, married Hester Fonda 14 Oct. 1696 in Albany. Albany DRCh. > [HSYB > > 1904:28] > > > > Please give a reference for the born and death dates for Hester Fonda. > > > > Ethel > > > > =============================================== > > In a message dated 3/2/2007 > sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorma<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorma> n@msncom<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com<mailto:n@msn.com<mailto:sandra_vanorman@msn.com>>> writes: > > > > Hello! > > Thanks to all for the replies to my query about Jan Dirksz VanArnhem. > It is > > very much appreciated. > > > > I have a Hester Douwse Fonda listed as a wife for Jan Janse VanArnhem. > She > > was born 1677 in Albany, New York and died 1 April 1708 in NY. Was she > the > > second wife of Jan? 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