If you need to delete a bunch of emails at the same time hold down your control key while you highlight everything you wish to delete, release your control key, then hit yr delete key. It's all gone! Takes 2 seconds! leslie -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Edward Otte Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:18 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] So many e-mails Well I have a saying, the temperature of a room is right when half the people complain it is too hot and the other half complains it is too cold. I have a delete key and I can also choose not to read a message. Or I can choose to unsubscribe. I appreciate everyone's messages, which is why I subscribe. The room is just right. -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Lee Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 4:34 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] So many e-mails My feelings also enough is enough >From: Marlou322@aol.com >Date: 2007/03/22 Thu AM 10:28:47 CDT >To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] So many e-mails >Yesterday I had 102 e-mails about everyone's Dutch ancestry- today- >there >were 50. While it was veryinteresting for the most part, >enough of it. Marion > > > >************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I found the following message psoted on a North Carolina Message Board since it retains to a Dutch NY family I am reposting it on this mail list. I am not related to this lady please contact her directly. North Carolina > Counties > Guilford eknetsch_1 (View posts) Posted: 14 Mar 2007 1:18AM GMT Classification: Query I found an old Dutch Bible in Vermont. The Antique dealer said he got it from the Mead family in Greensboro. My name is Evelyn Knetsch from Drayton Ontario, Canada. I'm so intriguied by who would of owned it, once upon a time. It was printed in 1718. Written in the Bible you can see the birthdate of Sarah Schenck, Born 19 April, 1755 and died Jan 28 1837 and the name of Letty Maria Ackerman who died Sept 12, 1833. At the front of the Bible is a signature of Sarah Schenck. Included in the Bible is a letter which is written in Dutch in April of 1730. My husband and I are both of Dutch background and are able to translate the letter a bit. Also a very faded letter written by Roelof Schenck in May 30 of 1747. It seems to say that he listened to a sermon on John 12:35. Then a third paper that states and I will try to translate: ( Roelof Schenck, In his hand. Know all men that Samuel Sherlock of Flushing, Queens County on the Island of Nassau on Province of New York am held held and firmly bound unto Theo. Truman in the same county and place the just sum of one thousand pounds. Loving brother) I've found lots of Sarah Schencks and a few names of Letitia Ackerman in the geneological sites of "Roots" and "Ancestory.com" but none that match the birth and death dates of the Sarah in this Bible. So I feel very stuck. If you can help me in any way I would greatly appreciate it. I just love doing this project and it feels like finding a pin in a haystack, but it is coming. Sincerely, Evelyn Knetsch, Box 283, Drayton On, N0G1P0, Phone 519 638 3341.

I did not count how many Dutch Ancestry posts there were but have found them very interesting and if I didn't I'd just hit the delete button. While I'm here does anyone know where Johannes Outman is buried ? He once lived on Pearl Street. Marilyn ----- Original Message ----- From: <Marlou322@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 11:28 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] So many e-mails > Yesterday I had 102 e-mails about everyone's Dutch ancestry- today- there > were 50. While it was veryinteresting for the most part, > enough of it. Marion > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi Liz, I believe you are correct in saying that the Egbert Egbertson of Staten Island is identical with the Egbert Egbertson, who along with members of the Du Chesne family (e.g. Michiel du Chesne and wife Susanna van der Hoeven), moved to New Castle, Delaware. I have never found any evidence that Egbert Egbertson remained on Staten Island, although the Egbert family established a major presence there, with numerous descendants. Michiel Du Chesne and wife Susanna baptized 3 children at Port Richmond: Antoni in 1710; Valentine, 21 May 1716; and Cornelius, 9 Oct 1720; and this family also disappeared from Staten Island records. The deed you show below does suggest that this is the same family. The records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Port Richmond are far from complete, and it is not surprising that baptismal records for the daughters Catharine and Susanna are not found there. However, the record you show for Teunis Egbertson (included in your list of children) does not belong to Egbert Egbertson and Francyntje Du Chesne. Rather, Teunis Egbertson, baptized at Port Richmond on 10 Aug 1718, was the son of Teunis Egbertson & 2nd wife Jannetje Du Chesne, and is mentioned in the will of his father, executed 6 Jul 1721 [WNYHS 2:239-240] [SICR p 20] 10 Aug 1718. Teunis Egbertsen. Jannetje du Chesne; Teunis; Jean Gareau. Marie Auder. This Teunis Egberts remained on Staten Island; married Ann Ridgeway and was one of the founding members of the United Brethren Moravian Church, established on Staten Island in 1762/63. At least you can eliminate him from your search :-). Teunis Egberts (father of your Egbert Egbertszen) was baptized at the New Amsterdam Reformed Dutch Church on 9 Jul 1662, the son of Egbert Sanderszen and Harmptje Harmens (her 3rd but not last marriage). 9 Jul 1662; Egbert Sandertszen, Hermentje Harmens; Theunis; Grietie Jacobs I have found nothing further on the brothers of Egbert, namely Johannes and Isaac on Staten Island, but mentioned in the will of Teunis Egbertsen. Many members of this greater Egbert family removed to New Jersey and lived in either Bergen, Essex, Monmouth, Somerset, Hunterdon or Middlesex Counties, and it is very difficult to sort them out. I almost hesitate to mention the "other" Egbert family of Albany, but you should at least be aware there was one (Teunis Teuniszen de Metselaer and wife Egbertje Egbertse). David M. Riker's New Netherland Vital Records Directory does not show a published genealogy for any of them. Isaac Egberts, brother of Egbert and born circa 1696/98, may be the one who married Catharine (?) and died 16 Oct 1769 in New Brunswick, Middlesex, NJ, but that is unsourced. Sorry I cannot be of any further help. Regards, Pam > Does anyone know what became of Egbert Teunis Egbertsen and his children? > > This Egbert Egbertsen was a son of Teunis Egberts and Susanne le Tillier, who > maried (2) Jannetje Duchesne. He left a will in Richmond County, NY, > dated July 6, 1721, proved August 25, 1721. > > He was married to Francyntje Duchesne, and had four sons baptized in Staten > Island (Port Richmond) DRC. > > Children were: > Abraham bp 1713 Jul 13; wits Theunis Egberts, Antie de Sien > Theunis bp 1718 Aug 10; wits Jean Gareau, Marie Auder > Isaac bp 1720 Apr 10; wits Thomas Kasper, Francyntje Mangels Ral > Johannes (John) 1722 May 20; wit. Marytje Claassen. > > There were also two daughters, Catharine and Susannah, who may not have > been baptized in Port Richmond. > > An Egbert Egbertsen who I think is the same man shows up in the probate records > index for New Castle County, Delaware between 1738-1742 in New Castle > County. He probably lived in Appoquinimink Hundred there. > > A land record dating back to 1734 gives the names of the five children > then living. Part of this land record reads: > > "This is whereas Egbert Egbertson, late of New Castle Co., dec'd., in > his lifetime was seized of a plantation tract of land which he > purchased of Andrew Jubart by Deed, dated 16 Aug 1734. Then sd > Egbertson died Intestate leaving five children (viz) Abraham, Isaac, > Catharine and John Egbertson and Susannah, the wife of Nicholas > Belveal; they received an Order of Orphans Court, dated 16 April 1745, > to divide sd land." > > The recitation of this land record and others shows the land was in > Thoroughfare Neck, Appoquinimink Hundred. After the division, several > pieces of this tract were sold. > > In 1774, one of the pieces of this Egbert Egbertsen land here ended up in the > ownership of my own Andrew Eliason, whose wife was Lydia Dushane. > Andrew is a descendent of Elias Cornelisen and Lysbeth Meyer, married > on 29 December 1678, NY DRC. Ellias and Lysbeth baptized two sons in > NY Dutch church, Cornelis in 1679 and Johannes in 1682. Lydia was a > descendent of Anthony Duchesne and Anna Boquet, as well as descending > from Nicholas de Meyer and Lidia van Dyck. > > Is anyone researching these people? > > I would like to know what became of the Egbert Teunis Egbertson > children. Also I would like to know what became of Egbert's brothers, > especially Johannes and Isaac. We have several men with missivg wives > down here, and wives with missing husbands. So if anyone had a Family > Sheet or names of spouses for any of these whose spouses aren't > mentioned in the above record, or death dates, or any other support, > it would be greatly > appreciated. > > Thanks for your time and interest. > Best wishes, > Liz J

Dear Marleen, From: "Marleen Van Horne" <msvnhrn@jps.net> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found out I was DANISH, not Dutch > I also noticed the RDC records formerly available on Donna Ristenbatt's > website are no longer there. I have been wondering if the RDC has made > everyone remove the records for reasons of copyright, or whatever. Can > anyone comment on this? I don't remember that she had these. What records, which church? Could it have just been a link to another site? Perhaps Ted Brassards? He died several years ago and his site probably doesn't exist anymore. Most of the NA/NY RDC records are available at several other sites. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

Thanks Frank. I wasn't aware that Wouter married Neeltje Herperts, daughter of Herpert Claeszen and granddaughter of Claes Corneliszen Van Schouw. That seems to tie a lot together. It makes it appear the Hendrick Pieterszen who was associated with Claes Corneliszen in 1640 was in fact Hendrick Pieterszen van Wesel, aka van Duisburg or Van Tessel, who married first to Geerite Everts and then to Geertie Rutgers, probably the widow of Bryun (Bruno) Williamsz. Particularly relevant is the fact that Wouter Bruynenz was a witness at the Kingston March 21,1683 baptism of Geertje, the daughter of Bruyn Hendrickszen & Lysbeth Jans Oosterhout. Bruryn would have been the son of Wouter's step father Hendrick Pieterszen who married Geertie Rutgers, probably the widow of Bryun (Bruno) Williamsz. ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com.

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Do you have any info back in France on any of these? Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara & George Grenier" <grenier@earthlink.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 22, 2007 3:28 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Huguenot names > HI > > I have those three names > > Barbara > Southern California > > > > At 05:57 PM 3/21/07, you wrote: >>Montfort, Fauconnier, DePlancque, >> >>I am surprised that we have not had those names on the site. >> >> Donna >>----- Original Message ----- >>From: <KSum555@aol.com> >>To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> >>Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:13 PM >>Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

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Does anyone know what became of Egbert Teunis Egbertsen and his children? This Egbert Egbertsen was a son of Teunis Egberts and Susanne le Tillier, who maried (2) Jannetje Duchesne. He left a will in Richmond County, NY, dated July 6, 1721, proved August 25, 1721. He was married to Francyntje Duchesne, and had four sons baptized in Staten Island (Port Richmond) DRC. Children were: Abraham bp 1713 Jul 13; wits Theunis Egberts, Antie de Sien Theunis bp 1718 Aug 10; wits Jean Gareau, Marie Auder Isaac bp 1720 Apr 10; wits Thomas Kasper, Francyntje Mangels Ral Johannes (John) 1722 May 20; wit. Marytje Claassen. There were also two daughters, Catharine and Susannah, who may not have been baptized in Port Richmond. An Egbert Egbertsen who I think is the same man shows up in the probate records index for New Castle County, Delaware between 1738-1742 in New Castle County. He probably lived in Appoquinimink Hundred there. A land record dating back to 1734 gives the names of the five children then living. Part of this land record reads: "This is whereas Egbert Egbertson, late of New Castle Co., dec'd., in his lifetime was seized of a plantation tract of land which he purchased of Andrew Jubart by Deed, dated 16 Aug 1734. Then sd Egbertson died Intestate leaving five children (viz) Abraham, Isaac, Catharine and John Egbertson and Susannah, the wife of Nicholas Belveal; they received an Order of Orphans Court, dated 16 April 1745, to divide sd land." The recitation of this land record and others shows the land was in Thoroughfare Neck, Appoquinimink Hundred. After the division, several pieces of this tract were sold. In 1774, one of the pieces of this Egbert Egbertsen land here ended up in the ownership of my own Andrew Eliason, whose wife was Lydia Dushane. Andrew is a descendent of Elias Cornelisen and Lysbeth Meyer, married on 29 December 1678, NY DRC. Ellias and Lysbeth baptized two sons in NY Dutch church, Cornelis in 1679 and Johannes in 1682. Lydia was a descendent of Anthony Duchesne and Anna Boquet, as well as descending from Nicholas de Meyer and Lidia van Dyck. Is anyone researching these people? I would like to know what became of the Egbert Teunis Egbertson children. Also I would like to know what became of Egbert's brothers, especially Johannes and Isaac. We have several men with missivg wives down here, and wives with missing husbands. So if anyone had a Family Sheet or names of spouses for any of these whose spouses aren't mentioned in the above record, or death dates, or any other support, it would be greatly appreciated. Thanks for your time and interest. Best wishes, Liz J

Do you have proof that Magdeline Verdon was French? They are also my ancestors. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marleen Van Horne" <msvnhrn@jps.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 11:45 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I found out I was DANISH, not Dutch > Barbara, > > Thank you for your message. VanHornesville, New York was founded by my > gggg-grandfather, Abraham Van Horne, about 1784. He found the stream > during service in the Revolutionary War. My understanding is that he > acquired the land on a military warrent for his service. Abraham was > the grandson of Matthys Cornelissen, the Dane, and the son of Cornelius > Van Horen, by his third wife, Hannah Seabrook. > > Matthys Cornelissen married Fytie Adam Brouwer, the daughter of Adam > Brouwer and Magdalena Verdon, neither of whom were Dutch. Adam is well > known for having built one of the first flour mills in North America. > Cornelius Van Horen, his spelling, was described in legal documents and > either a yeoman or a miller. So by the time you get to Abraham, he was > the third generation miller, in our line. > > Abraham realized the stream at VanHornesville was perfect or powering a > flour mill. The current mill building in Van Hornesville, which > replaced the original, was built about 1848, by his grandson, if I > remember correctly. > > To see the mill pond at VanHornesville go to: > http://home.jps.net/~msvnhrn/things.html and follow the Van Horne links. > > Marleen Van Horne > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Chris: I believe that the term is "pedigree collapse." Common ancestral lines repeating; thereby collapsing lines (including the literal ones on your chart) into one another leading back to the same ancestors. No, it is not unusual -- at least not as unusual as you might think. In fact it's logical: If your ancestors were among the first Europeans to settle a geographic area, such as your Essex County NJ people (also my people), they were initially of a small pool of families. These families married into each other by necessity, and sometimes repeatedly over the early generations. Continuing geographic proximity plus familiarity through marriage created more intermarriage. Cultural alignment prolonged intermarriage among the Dutch families in this (northern NJ) area, even as they decreased to a modest minority. My own parents, married in 1955, were lineal descendants of two of the oldest families in Bergen County, NJ: Terhune and Van Blarcom. I have often said that my ancestors -- three quarters of them ended up in Bergen and Essex Counties -- had "feet of cement." Nobody went west, or in any other direction. In the patrilineal sense, I am 11th generation Bergen County, and I have many multiple descents. My pedigree is highly collapsed, with six Terhune descents, three Van Blarcom descents, nine Ackerman descents, six Bogert descents, four Van Voorhees and Van Winkle descents - and several others like this - and the Grand Prize winner: ten descents from David Demarest. Because of this (Demarest) and other repeating common ancestry, a man I work with, a Demarest, and I are related dozens of times over. My parents were related many, many times over. Distantly! :-) I am my own cousin (over and over). I joke that it is amazing there isn't more that's wrong with me. ----- Original Message ----- From: Chris Schopfer Date: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:53 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Tangled Roots (was: How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry) To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > I wonder about my own tangled roots, and would be interested to > hear others' > thoughts on the subject. > > While I have a number of two- and three-line ancestors, my grandfather > Cockefair (Coquefaire/Kokever/etc.) was descended along four > lines from > Thomas Fredericks (Cadmus), and along FIVE lines from each of: > > Hendrick Janszen Spier > Teunis Jansen Pier (son of Jan Teunissen) > Gerbrant/Garrabrant Claesen (son of Claes Van Schouw) > Roelof Cornelisssen (Van Houten) > > Although not all my lines are perfectly proven, the vast > majority are pretty > well documented; I doubt errors have created a wrong picture. > There are also > unsolved lines that could show even more overlaps. > > If the concentration of my grandfather's genealogy is indeed > rare, I suspect > it is due to geography. His line of the Cockefair family lived > for well over > two centuries on a homestead at a remote edge of Dutch > territory, just south > of the "plain" of Stone House Plains (today, Bloomfield), NJ. To > the south > lay English neighborhoods; to the west was a ridge (today, Glen > Ridge, NJ); > and to the east was the Yantecaw (Third) River. Points north were > Dutch. Early farms there were frequently a half mile or so > apart, so I think > marital opportunties were comparatively limited. > > To what extent are there other "concentrated" Dutch genealogies? > > Chris > > > On 3/21/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > > > I always knew I was Dutch. My maternal grandparents, the Van Wycks, > > emigrated from Holland in 1864. I knew nothing of my > > paternal grandparents. When > > my daughter was expecting her first child, I knew I had to > give my first > > grandchild roots and I became hooked on genealogy. What a > nice surprise > > to find > > I have 'New Dutch' and 'Old Dutch'. On my paternal old Dutch > side, I > > have > > about 30 ancestors in New Amsterdam. The next surprise was > finding I had > > very > > tangled roots and was descended from the same ancestor more > than once. > > > > > > My tangled roots. > > *I am descended from three sons of Epke Jacobsen Banta, the > immigrant.> *I am descended from two sons of David J Demarest, > the immigrant. > > *I am descended from two daughters of Lubbert Gysbertsen Van > Blarcom, the > > immigrant. > > *I am descended from two sons of David Ackerman, the immigrant. > > *I am descended from a son and a daughter of Jan Louwe Bogert, > the > > immigrant. > > *I am descended from a son and a daughter of Joost DeBaun, > the immigrant. > > > > *I am descended from a son and a daughter of Jan Tiebout, the > immigrant.> *I am descended from two daughters of Simon DeRuine, > the immigrant. > > *Jannetje Jans married 1) Christiaen Barentsen Van Horn, the > immigrant> and 2) Laurens Andriessen Van Buskirk, the immigrant, > and I am descended > > from a son from both of Jannetje's marriages. > > > > Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free > email to > > everyone. > > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject > and the body > > of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

HI I have those three names Barbara Southern California At 05:57 PM 3/21/07, you wrote: >Montfort, Fauconnier, DePlancque, > >I am surprised that we have not had those names on the site. > > Donna >----- Original Message ----- >From: <KSum555@aol.com> >To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:13 PM >Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry

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If our roots didn't get tangled, then the number of our ancestors, after a number of generations, would mount to a physically impossible figure -- larger than the population of the world at the time. And remember the old song "I'm My Own Grandpa" see, e.g., http://www.onlyinternet.net/preceptor/rm118/grandpa.htm Hugh MacDougall, Cooperstown, NY

Dear Dorothy and Listers I'm category 2) and only stumbled upon my Dutch ancestry in December 2006! Some researchers had the SYFFERS/ SYPHERS/ CYPHERS line as Dutch, but the consensus is German. So last December I was compiling my yearly family history update (the final chapter??) to send off to my nieces and nephews, when I thought - I have not checked out the wives of my SYFFERS etc connections! This was really strange for me, as I thoroughly enjoyed researching all my female lines especially! So here I was, finally (??) tidying up my research, when I thought I would do a little surfing: GGGGGG Grandparents: Lea BUYS married Johannis SYFFER GGGGG Grandparents: Agie (Effie) MABIE m. Petrus SYFFER GGGG Grandparents: Tamar UNDERHILL m. Peter SYPHERS So far, especially with some great assistance from members of this list, I have found my Dutch connections to be: BUYS, HOPPE, Van OOSTEROM, JURCKSE, HENDRICKS, JANSE My next connections to be checked include: MABIE, Van NAERDEN, NAMBURGH (Van AMBURGH?)... there MAYBE more (sorry!) The grandson of Tamar UNDERHILL and Peter SYPHERS, John Woodruff SYPHERS, my GG grandfather, sailed from New York as a crew member, and after England and India, arrived and jumped ship in Sydney, Australia in 1848 - explaing how this message is coming from Australia!! So it's just been a little over three months since I discovered my Dutch ancestry Dorothy, and Edie, having Dutch ancestry has not helped with my housekeeping either, but hey.... and it turns out my last yearly update was not the final chapter... the nieces and nephews are still waiting! Cheers Marg Smith Mardi, NSW Australia Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry > Dear Listers, I am guessing that all regular discussants on this > List fall into one of two categories -- 1) Those who have always > known that they are descended from Dutch colonial ancestors and 2) > Those who stumbled upon Dutch colonial ancestors in the course of > their genealogical research.

Montfort, Fauconnier, DePlancque, I am surprised that we have not had those names on the site. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <KSum555@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry >I would also like to know what your Huguenot names are? Mine are Runyon & > Corriell. They all lived in Someset County New Jersey. Thanks. > Roberta Summers > > > ************************************** > AOL now offers free > email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Lots of fun. D. ----- Original Message ----- From: <NYHuguenot@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Tangled Roots (was: How I discovered I haveDutch ancest... > Barbara, > > Thanks for the definition, pedigree collapse. I have always > wondered what happens when you have two sisters who are your grandmothers > because > one's three grandsons married the other's three grand-granddaughters.. > Not to > mention all the children from second and third marriages who are now half > siblings and also cousins. > > This has been enlightening. Imagine what a reunion would look > like? > > Bob > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Hi, My connections are a little more down the line and in Kentucky.. My great grandfather (George Drane Montfort) married his 2nd cousin Sarah Katherine Johnston, whose mother was Kathereine Vories. Sarah (or Bettie) died after 5 children, my grandfather was 15 months old. George had to have someone to take care of all those children, so he married again-a 2nd cousin to him and to his first wife (Flora Vories). Flora had 2 children and she died, Now he had 7 children that needed attention. So---He married another 2nd. cousin, Caroline Ransdell, whose mother was a Martha Vories. So, all four of these people were 2nd cousins, lived very close to each other and were happy family. These men all lived to be very close to 100, my own grandfather was 98 at death and still mentally alert. Bettie and two of the cousins made a quilt and sewed their names at the top. She died in 1878 and my sister has the quilt. I have a picture. I have pictures of James and Francis Vories who were sons of Francis Vories and Katherine Montfort. They came to Ky .ca 1780. If anyone would like copies of these men I will be glad to send them to you if you give me your personal e-mail. They won't take these on the site. I also have a picture of Katherine Vories who was the grandmother of Bettie. These men were born in the late 1700's, are buried in Campbellsburg, Ky. and I put flowers on their graves on Memorial Day. Donna Stark, whose mother was Cordelia Alice Montfort ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 21, 2007 6:52 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Tangled Roots (was: How I discovered I haveDutch ancestry) >I wonder about my own tangled roots, and would be interested to hear >others' > thoughts on the subject. > > While I have a number of two- and three-line ancestors, my grandfather > Cockefair (Coquefaire/Kokever/etc.) was descended along four lines from > Thomas Fredericks (Cadmus), and along FIVE lines from each of: > > Hendrick Janszen Spier > Teunis Jansen Pier (son of Jan Teunissen) > Gerbrant/Garrabrant Claesen (son of Claes Van Schouw) > Roelof Cornelisssen (Van Houten) > > Although not all my lines are perfectly proven, the vast majority are > pretty > well documented; I doubt errors have created a wrong picture. There are > also > unsolved lines that could show even more overlaps. > > If the concentration of my grandfather's genealogy is indeed rare, I > suspect > it is due to geography. His line of the Cockefair family lived for well > over > two centuries on a homestead at a remote edge of Dutch territory, just > south > of the "plain" of Stone House Plains (today, Bloomfield), NJ. To the south > lay English neighborhoods; to the west was a ridge (today, Glen Ridge, > NJ); > and to the east was the Yantecaw (Third) River. Points north were > Dutch. Early farms there were frequently a half mile or so apart, so I > think > marital opportunties were comparatively limited. > > To what extent are there other "concentrated" Dutch genealogies? > > Chris > > > On 3/21/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > >> I always knew I was Dutch. My maternal grandparents, the Van Wycks, >> emigrated from Holland in 1864. I knew nothing of my >> paternal grandparents. When >> my daughter was expecting her first child, I knew I had to give my >> first >> grandchild roots and I became hooked on genealogy. What a nice >> surprise >> to find >> I have 'New Dutch' and 'Old Dutch'. On my paternal old Dutch side, I >> have >> about 30 ancestors in New Amsterdam. The next surprise was finding I >> had >> very >> tangled roots and was descended from the same ancestor more than once. >> >> >> My tangled roots. >> *I am descended from three sons of Epke Jacobsen Banta, the immigrant. >> *I am descended from two sons of David J Demarest, the immigrant. >> *I am descended from two daughters of Lubbert Gysbertsen Van Blarcom, >> the >> immigrant. >> *I am descended from two sons of David Ackerman, the immigrant. >> *I am descended from a son and a daughter of Jan Louwe Bogert, the >> immigrant. >> *I am descended from a son and a daughter of Joost DeBaun, the >> immigrant. >> >> *I am descended from a son and a daughter of Jan Tiebout, the immigrant. >> *I am descended from two daughters of Simon DeRuine, the immigrant. >> *Jannetje Jans married 1) Christiaen Barentsen Van Horn, the immigrant >> and 2) Laurens Andriessen Van Buskirk, the immigrant, and I am descended >> from a son from both of Jannetje's marriages. >> >> Ethel Kay Konight >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ************************************** AOL now offers free email to >> everyone. >> Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body >> of the message >> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >