A.V. Phillips in The Lott Family in America p.18-19 gives only the name Sarah for Peter's wife. However there is a footnote --n9. Pieter Lott, had a sister Dorothy, who married William Remsen, named in her father's will. So that Sarah, was probably a Remsen, sister of Rem, named "brother-in-law" in Pieter's will. However, that unusual name Mourice, is certainly suggestive of the Coeverts. Phyllis ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Ginny, From: <Vsiefkes@wmconnect.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 3:02 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ships List > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index First Edition, Volume 3 O-Z. Edited by > P. William Filby with Mary K. Meyer; shows Teunis Cornelis Slingerland coming > to New Netherlands 1620-1664. My information says he came in 1654. the > references from the Index have #9135 p 10 and on that source I have Michael Tepper, > editor. Passengers to America: a Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists from > The New England Historical and Geneaolgical Register. Baltimore: Genealogical > Publishing Co., 1977. Reprinted with new indexes, 1978. > > Can I be sure that this person came within that time period (1654) but what > was the name of the ship that he came on? I think you have somehow gotten the wrong book by Tepper. I don't have the book you cite, but have the table of contents. >From that, I see that p. 10 begins The Founders of New England by Samuel Drake from vol XIV of the NEHGR. That page is an intro, but even the first page of passengers does not have your guy. It is about ships from England to New England. My guess is that the correct Tepper book is Immigrants to the Middle Colonies: A Consolidation fo Ship Passenger Lists and Associated Data from the NYGBR. Again, from the table of contents, p. 10 is p/o an article titled "Representative Pioneer Settlers of New Netherland and Their Original Home Places" by Richard Schemerhorn, Jr. from vol LXV. [That article is also in Boyer's Ship Passenger Lists: New York and New Jersey, pp. 26 ff.] Looking at the list, I see that by "Pioneer Settlers" he means those that arrived 1620 to 1664. For your guy he has: "Slingerland, Teunis Cornelis from Amsterdam" His source for that is: Holland Society Yearbooks (Biographical Memoirs) Not very satisfying. And no indication of date. David Riker has arrival in 1654; perhaps this is because the first event he shows for Teunis is the bap. of a child in NARDC in 1655. I checked a couple of things quickly and didn't find anything on which ship he arrived. You might want to check the Dutch Settlers Society of Albany vol. 36-37, pp 13-17, which Riker cites. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

Dear Phyllis, Splendid! In "Genealogies of Long Island Families" Volume I, pages 432-438, on page 433 in an article titled, "The Family of Charles Fonteyn", we learn that Annetie Fonteyn was the daughter of Charel Fonteyn and Catherine de Baile. Annetje was bap. 16 July 1662 in Brooklyn. She first married Jacob Janszen on 9 Sep 1685 in New York; this couple had 2 children. Annetje then married 2) at Flatbush on 21 August 1694 Mauritz Covert. Sarah Covert was the 4th and youngest child of Mauritz and Annetje. She was baptized on 26 Dec 1697 at Brooklyn. I would say that a very strong case can be made that this Pieter Lott's was was, indeed, Sarah Covert. Dorothy >Dorothy, >You are right on the nose - again! >Yes, Mr. Phillips does give the will of the Pieter Lott b 1 March 1690, >Jamaica, and the children. This Pieter was the son of Hendrick Lock >and Catrina >de Witt > >Will dated 12 Sept 1727; pr 4 June 1730 >Pieter was "of Flatbush" >wife: Sarah >sons Hendrick and Mauris not of age >names children in order given below. >His brother Johannes Lott and his brother-in-law Rem Remson and Andries >Onderdonk, Executors. > >Children: >Hendrick b 1716 (for his father?) >Mourice b 1718 (for her father?) >Cattrina b 1720 (for his mother?) >Antje or Agnietje b 1721 (Was that Maurice Covert's wife's name??) >Maria 1723 >Pieter b 1725 > >Hope this helps, Liz. >Phyllis > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The complete name of the series was Council Minutes and General Entries. Volumes 1 and 2 were general entries. Volume 2 contained 352 pages, of which 161 survived the State Capitol fire of 1911. The surviving pages were published in my first volume of General Entries but the charge of sedition was apparently on one of the lost pages. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Council Minutes > It looks like CM, 1668-1783 starts with volume 3 so I'm looking for any > source that contains volume 2. > > On a side note, I've noticed that GOOGLE books is putting a lot of the > older books online. I had intended to get CM, 1668-1783 at the library > but found it online. Hopefully they'll get a few more of the older source > books available online. > > Thanks, > Steve > > ---- Steve Brewer <slbrewer@fuse.net> wrote: >> I'm hoping someone can identify a source for me. In Stiles' History of >> Brooklyn he mentions that Adam Brouwer was ordered arrested for seditious >> speeches and his source is listed as Council Minutes, ii.. I tried to >> look it up in Calendar of Council Minutes, 1668 - 1783 but this doesn't >> appear to be the correct source. Does anyone know what he's referring >> to? >> >> Thanks, >> Steve >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Liz, I found one reference to get you started: Andrew J. Provost, Early Settlers of Bushwick (1949), available on HeritageQuest. Vol. 3, p. 62 (Fonteyn Family) shows Sara Covert, daughter of Maurus Koevers [Covert] and Annetje (Fonteyn), baptized 27 Dec. 1692, sponsors, Jacques Fonteyn and his wife, Anneke (Webbers), the child's maternal uncle and aunt. No mention is made of who she married. Hope this helps. Larry Voreis >I am wondering if anyone has any information confirming the name of > Peter/Pieter LOTT'S wife? Another researcher sent me some undocumented > information showing that Pieter, b. Jamaica, NY 1690, was married to a > Sarah COVERT, daughter of Mauritz Teunise COVERT. I don't find a > marriage for Peter/Pieter and Sarah and nothing to confirm that she is, > in fact, a COVERT. > > Many thanks for any help with this couple! > Liz > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

It looks like CM, 1668-1783 starts with volume 3 so I'm looking for any source that contains volume 2. On a side note, I've noticed that GOOGLE books is putting a lot of the older books online. I had intended to get CM, 1668-1783 at the library but found it online. Hopefully they'll get a few more of the older source books available online. Thanks, Steve ---- Steve Brewer <slbrewer@fuse.net> wrote: > I'm hoping someone can identify a source for me. In Stiles' History of Brooklyn he mentions that Adam Brouwer was ordered arrested for seditious speeches and his source is listed as Council Minutes, ii.. I tried to look it up in Calendar of Council Minutes, 1668 - 1783 but this doesn't appear to be the correct source. Does anyone know what he's referring to? > > Thanks, > Steve > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm hoping someone can identify a source for me. In Stiles' History of Brooklyn he mentions that Adam Brouwer was ordered arrested for seditious speeches and his source is listed as Council Minutes, ii.. I tried to look it up in Calendar of Council Minutes, 1668 - 1783 but this doesn't appear to be the correct source. Does anyone know what he's referring to? Thanks, Steve

Dear Phyllis, Is there an abstract of this Pieter Lott's will? Does Mr. Phillips list the children and birth order of Pieter Lott and his wife, Sarah [Coverts ????]? If the couple followed traditonal naming patterns, we might be able to make some kind of a case as to Sarah's birth family. Dorothy >A.V. Phillips in The Lott Family in America p.18-19 gives only the name >Sarah for Peter's wife. However there is a footnote --n9. Pieter Lott, had a >sister Dorothy, who married William Remsen, named in her father's >will. So that >Sarah, was probably a Remsen, sister of Rem, named "brother-in-law" in >Pieter's will. > >However, that unusual name Mourice, is certainly suggestive of the Coeverts. >Phyllis > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Steve, Does Stiles say when this arrest occured? Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> To: "dutch-colonies: rootsweb.com" <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 12:56 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Council Minutes > I'm hoping someone can identify a source for me. In Stiles' History of Brooklyn he mentions that Adam Brouwer was ordered arrested for seditious speeches and his source is listed as Council Minutes, ii.. I tried to look it up in Calendar of Council Minutes, 1668 - 1783 but this doesn't appear to be the correct source. Does anyone know what he's referring to? > > Thanks, > Steve

Ethel: The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's "History of Passaic and it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: Hans Dederick Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] Elias Machielson [Vreeland] Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] Adrian Post Urian Tomason [Van Riper] Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] Cornelius Lubers Abraham Bookey Chris On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > > Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk purchase in > Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? > > The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, between Captahem > Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a certain Prcel of > goods, > Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . bargained and sold unto > the said > Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, Hendrick George and > their > Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by Captahem, and attested > by > the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of Governor Philip > Carteret." > > Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen > [Van > Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George [Brinkerhoff] > "and > their Associates" Who are the Associates? > > Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of Acquackanonk, only > three > -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." "One of the > patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." [Westervelt] > > > *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by William Nelson > and > Charles A Shriner > Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago 1920 > Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. > > Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk purchase in Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, between Captahem Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a certain Prcel of goods, Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . bargained and sold unto the said Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, Hendrick George and their Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by Captahem, and attested by the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of Governor Philip Carteret." Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen [Van Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George [Brinkerhoff] "and their Associates" Who are the Associates? Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of Acquackanonk, only three -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." "One of the patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." [Westervelt] *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by William Nelson and Charles A Shriner Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago 1920 Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. Ethel Kay Konight ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

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Lorine....I discovered Olive Tree Site several years ago and I love it!!! So much good information there and lots of hard work to get it there!!! I might mention that if one is researching ancestors in early Ohio that there is a site called digitalshoebox.com that has a lot of good historical and genealogical info about this area. Linda Protected by www.Spam-Stop.com {icMvyqqJ7XyB17V7C4}

Hi all, The complete text of the patent (including the names shown below) is in William Nelson's History of the City of Paterson and the County of Passaic New Jersey (1901), pp. 63-65. [Note: this is a different book from the one Ethel cited. I have found this older one, in general, more useful. YMMV] This transcription is from the original parchment, which at the time was in the possession of ex-Judge Simmons of Passaic. The settlers petitioned the proprietors for the patent on 30 May 1684 and it was issued on 16 March 1684[/5]. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > Ethel: > > The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's "History of Passaic and > it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: > Hans Dederick > Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] > Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] > Elias Machielson [Vreeland] > Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] > Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] > Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] > Adrian Post > Urian Tomason [Van Riper] > Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] > Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] > John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] > Cornelius Lubers > Abraham Bookey > > Chris > > On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: >> >> Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk purchase in >> Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? >> >> The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, between Captahem >> Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a certain Prcel of >> goods, >> Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . bargained and sold unto >> the said >> Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, Hendrick George and >> their >> Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by Captahem, and attested >> by >> the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of Governor Philip >> Carteret." >> >> Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen >> [Van >> Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George [Brinkerhoff] >> "and >> their Associates" Who are the Associates? >> >> Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of Acquackanonk, only >> three >> -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." "One of the >> patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." [Westervelt] >> >> >> *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by William Nelson >> and >> Charles A Shriner >> Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago 1920 >> Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. >> >> Ethel Kay Konight

Hi everyone As many of you know, I have an ongoing project to reconstruct the names of passengers sailing from Netherlands to New Netherland in the 1600s. The project has been online for a few years, and can be seen at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ships/ I've been slowly reconstructing ships' passenger lists from various source (see webpage for details) and am providing these lists online as I complete them. In some cases, I've been able to reconstruct names for a ship list that has never been published before! In other cases, I've been able to add names to previously published lists. So far I have 81 ships - and many new names previously unknown. A few days ago I came across another name of a settler who arrived on Blauwe Duiff (Blue Dove) which arrived 5 Sept. 1656 in New Netherland. I just wanted to remind everyone that the project is still alive and well and being added to as I find names in other primary sources. The Blauwe Duiff list can be found at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nn_bluedove1656.shtml It's never been published to my knowledge, and so far I've only found names of 2 passengers but it's a start. Remember, there are no passenger lists as we know them, for these ships. The only records of passengers is from the WIC Account Book showing who owed money on arrival. So the addition of names from other primary sources is a slow, but important, piece of the puzzle. I welcome additions to the existing lists *but* please don't send me a name and tell me that your Aunt Harriet swore your ancestor arrived on this ship -- or that you found it on someone's submitted family tree online. I'm only accepting names that have verification such as court records.. you can see what I've used so far for proof on the webpage at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/ships/ Enjoy and I hope you find an ancestor or two Lorine -- Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com

I am wondering if anyone has any information confirming the name of Peter/Pieter LOTT'S wife? Another researcher sent me some undocumented information showing that Pieter, b. Jamaica, NY 1690, was married to a Sarah COVERT, daughter of Mauritz Teunise COVERT. I don't find a marriage for Peter/Pieter and Sarah and nothing to confirm that she is, in fact, a COVERT. Many thanks for any help with this couple! Liz

Hi, I have Burdge(Berge/Birge). Which Birge are you looking for? I have them back as far as the mid 1600's in Long Island. Pat ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

I have all three families in my line. Rapalje: Abraham, Altie, Annetie, Annetje, Cataline, Catalyntie, Catharine, Cornelia, Cornelius, Daniel, Elizabeth, Femmetie, Jacob, Jan, Jeronemus, jeronimus, Joris, Lysbet, Margrietie, Mary, and Sarah. Bergen: Anneken, Breckje, Catalyn, Gerrit, Gerritje, Hans Hansen, Hans Jacobse, Jacob, Jacob Hansen, Jan, Jan Hansen, Joris, Marretie, Michael, Michael Hansen and Sarah Joris. Middagh: Derick, Gerrit Aertsen, Jan Aersen, and Judith. -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of DDCorps25@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 1:58 AM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry Where are the RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families? Regards. Art ************************************** AOL now offers free email to everyone. Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have Rapalje, Bergen, and Middagh families in my direct lines. You can contact me privately if you wish for information. Sally Shreeve ----- Original Message ----- From: <DDCorps25@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 2:57 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry > Where are the RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families? Regards. > Art > > > > ************************************** AOL now offers free email to > everyone. > Find out more about what's free from AOL at http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >