Hi Cyn, That is exactly what Mr. Phillips said in "The Lott Family in America." He wrote (on page 9): "In printed works this date is given as Aug. 2, 1695, but there must be a mistake in transcribing the Church Records." Beyond that, he made no attempt to resolve this issue, and I don't have the Brooklyn or Jamaica records. Continuing on page 9, Mr. Phillips wrote: Jan Lott was baptized at Jamaica 25 Apr 1695: "Jan Lott, son of Abraham and Claesje Langstraet" sp: Dirk Langestraet & Johanna Havens Pieter Lott was baptized at Jamaica 31 Oct 1697: "son of Abraham and Claesje Lott" Isaac Lott was baptized at Jamaica 27 Oct 1704 (son of Abram and 2nd wife): sp Gerrit Dorlandt and Catharyntie Lodt Jacob Lott was baptized at Jamaica 24 Jun 1716: "son of Abraham and Sara Lodt" sp: Douwe Van Ditmarse and Marytie Dorlandt Hendrick Lott was baptized at Jamaica 21 Sep 1718: (Abraham & wife Marytje) sp: Abraham Lodt and Cornelia Lodt Geertje Lott was baptized at Jamaica 10 Sep 1720: "daughter of Abraham and Marytie" sp: Pitter Lot and Femmetie Lot Rem Lott was baptized 25 Jul at Jamaica 25 Jul 1722: "son of Abrame and Maritie Lot" sp: Chrystaganus Lupardus and Antie Dorlandt Regards, Pam CMiddaughZuber@aol.com wrote: > Pam, > > I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records > as in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn > "Abram Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans > Dorlant born in Bedfort, had banns proclaimed with the consent of both > their parents on 2 Aug 1695." Obviously there's something wrong with > this notation? > > TIA, > > Cynthia > > > > In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > pjsears@stratos.net writes: > > Hi Liz, et al, > > I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and > on pages 9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. > According to the records of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he > was married 4 times, and had 8 children. All 8 children are > mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS > 7:27]. > > Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had > 3 sons (Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa > 1699); 2nd to Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt > 1704; 3rd to Sara (_?_), by whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and > finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he had son Hendrick bpt > 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 (all Jamaica > Church records). > > Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the > "son of Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje > Remsen. > > At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New > York Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal > grandfather, Abraham Lott, and his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains > unidentified). > > The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that > Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. > > Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson > Pieter on 2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son > of Abraham Lott and his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, > same church, Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of > their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter of Abraham Lott and Jannetje > Goelet. > > > Regards, > Pam Sears > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > See what's free at AOL.com <http://www.aol.com?ncid=AOLAOF00020000000503>. >

Pam, I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records as in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn "Abram Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans Dorlant born in Bedfort, had banns proclaimed with the consent of both their parents on 2 Aug 1695." Obviously there's something wrong with this notation? TIA, Cynthia In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, pjsears@stratos.net writes: Hi Liz, et al, I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and on pages 9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. According to the records of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he was married 4 times, and had 8 children. All 8 children are mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS 7:27]. Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had 3 sons (Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa 1699); 2nd to Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt 1704; 3rd to Sara (_?_), by whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he had son Hendrick bpt 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 (all Jamaica Church records). Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the "son of Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje Remsen. At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, Abraham Lott, and his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson Pieter on 2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son of Abraham Lott and his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, same church, Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter of Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet. Regards, Pam Sears ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

While on the subject of the Lott families, I would like to ask if anyone knows of this Lott. Baltus Lott born abt 1715 .1746 & 1747 Crum Elbow, Amenia,Dutchess Co., NY Tax Roll shows three Lott men, Andries, Baltus, and Henry. Also there were John and Richard Sackett.Frm the History of Sharon, Litchfield Co., Ct it says Baltus was a tenant of Richard Sackett who resided at Wassaic (New York) and had acquired title to thousands of acres along the border. He (Sackett) was associated with the powerful Livingston family of the Hudson River Valley and had helped settle German Palatine refugees near Red Hook. Amenia, New York is about 5 miles from Sharon, Connecticut and is in Dutchess County, New York. I haven't been able to locate Amenia in relation to Little Nine Partners but I believe Amenia may have been part of the Little Nine Partners patent. Abstracts of New York Wills Vol VI 1760-1766, page 211: Page 369.--In the name of God, Amen, March 9, 1762. I, HENRY LOTT, of Duchess County, Esq., being very sick in body. I leave to my son Abraham o50. All the remainder of my estate I leave to my three children, Abraham, Mary, and Sarah. I make my brother, Peter Lott, of New York, and his son, Abraham Lott, executors. Witnesses, Jacob R. Eversen, Benjamin Knight, Paulus Mowrer. Proved, January 18, 1763. I feel that the three Lott's,Baltus, Henry, and Andries in Armenia in 1746 are brothers and Baltus is my ancestor. I am looking for more info and records on this family. Baltus had 4 children I know of, Mary born 1744 in Little Nine Partners, Dutchess Co., Ny, Baltus Jr, Samuel and Abram or Abraham. Does the Lott Ancestry Book show anything on this family line. I have seen that Henry from the will above is son of Abraham Lott and Maria unknown to me yet and married Hester Buckout of Bushwyck. Baltus born abr 1714 has been my brick wall for many years now. Thanks for any info or suggestions on this family. Norma Roberts

Hi Steve, I'm curious -- could you please say which of the many books whose title begins _New York Historical Manuscripts_ you found this in? Thanks, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Adam Brower and the Fort Albany > Here's another question for Adam Brouwer experts. In New York > Historical Manuscripts, there is a list of passengers granted permission > to board the ship Fort Albany for England and Amsterdam in 1670. A few > entries later, there is what appears to be a passenger list of persons > aboard Fort Albany. Does anyone know any more about this? Is this Adam > Brouwer Berkhoven or another Adam Brower? I've been trying to track > down every Adam Brouwer reference I can find and locate sources. There > is a gap between his trouble with Gerrit Croesen in 1669 and his > Brooklyn tax assessment in 1675.

Hi Liz, et al, I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and on pages 9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. According to the records of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he was married 4 times, and had 8 children. All 8 children are mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS 7:27]. Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had 3 sons (Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa 1699); 2nd to Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt 1704; 3rd to Sara (_?_), by whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he had son Hendrick bpt 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 (all Jamaica Church records). Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the "son of Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje Remsen. At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, Abraham Lott, and his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson Pieter on 2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son of Abraham Lott and his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, same church, Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter of Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet. Regards, Pam Sears

Hi all, I see Dorothy provided much of what I show below. But I think there are a few additions; so I'll just sent the whole thing. From: <CMiddaughZuber@aol.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 10:59 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Another Abraham LOTT puzzle > Pam, > I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records as > in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn "Abram > Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans Dorlant born in Bedfort, > had banns proclaimed with the consent of both their parents on 2 Aug 1695." > Obviously there's something wrong with this notation? > TIA, > Cynthia I haven't been paying much attention to this Lott discussion, so I may be off base here. But the A.P.G Jos van der Linde version of the Brooklyn RDC records, p. 218, has for the date Cynthia shows: "Abram Pietersen Lot, 'young man born in the Flackebos', and Geertje Jans Dorlant, 'maiden, born in Bedvoort', had their banns proclaimed, with the consent of the parents of the bridegroom and the bride." More below. > In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > pjsears@stratos.net writes: > > Hi Liz, et al, > > I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and on pages > 9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. According to the records > of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he was married 4 times, and had 8 > children. All 8 children are mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep > 1766 [WNYHS 7:27]. The Jamaica RDC baptisms do not start until 1702. > Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had 3 sons In April 1696 Claasje Langestraat and husband Abraham Leek bp. son Jan at Brooklyn (Brooklyn RDC as above, p. 163) > (Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa 1699); I cannot find the above Johannes bp. -- unless it is a mistake for the Leek one above. The Voorhees Flatbush records show that Abram Lot and Geertie Lot bap. a child with no name shown on 31 Oct 1697. The witnesses were Piter Lot and Geertruy. [So, the child _could_ have been Pieter, named after the witness.] >2nd to Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt 1704; 3rd to Sara (_?_), by > whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he > had son Hendrick bpt 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 > (all Jamaica Church records). Those records are in NYGBR vol 105, which I do not have at hand -- except for the first page. > Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the "son of > Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje Remsen. See above. I could be wrong, but it appears to me Mr. Phillips has mistaken Leek for Lot, and that Abraham Lot never married Claesje at all, but married Geertie first as Cynthia points out. > At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York > Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, Abraham Lott, and > his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). The bap. record does not identify Marytje as his wife. Maybe there is evidence of that elsewhere. > > The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that > Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. > > Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson Pieter on > 2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son of Abraham Lott and > his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, same church, Pieter Lott and > Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter > of Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet. > > > Regards, > Pam Sears Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

Dear Cynthia, On page 218 of "Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York: First Book of Records, 1660-1752" the banns between "Abram Pietersen Lot and Geertje Jans Dorlant" are, indeed, given for 2 August 1695, just as you say. On page 451 of the "Flatbush Church Records", edited by David William Voorhees, "Abram Lot and Geertie Lot" had a child baptized on 31 October 1697. The name of the child was not recorded! The sponsors were "Piter Lot and Geertruy". It appears to me that Claesje Langestraet was not Abram Pieter Lot's first wife (as claimed by Mr. Phillips). Dorothy > >Pam, >I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records as >in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn "Abram >Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans Dorlant >born in Bedfort, >had banns proclaimed with the consent of both their parents on 2 Aug 1695." >Obviously there's something wrong with this notation? >TIA, >Cynthia > >In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, >pjsears@stratos.net writes: > >Hi Liz, et al, > >I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and on pages >9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. According to the records >of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he was married 4 times, and had 8 >children. All 8 children are mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 >and proved 4 Sep >1766 [WNYHS 7:27]. > >Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had 3 sons >(Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa 1699); 2nd to >Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt 1704; 3rd to >Sara (_?_), by >whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he >had son Hendrick bpt 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 >(all Jamaica Church records). > >Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the "son of >Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje Remsen. > >At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York >Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, >Abraham Lott, and >his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). > >The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that >Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. > >Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson Pieter on >2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son of Abraham Lott and >his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, same church, Pieter Lott and >Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter >of Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet. > > >Regards, >Pam Sears > > > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Pam, Wow! Nothing like nailing three out of the four...and all with the same husband! Thank you! That's a great help at narrowing the possibilities. Now to see what I can find out about Jane Hendrickson...probably like looking for that infamous needle in the haystack! Many thanks! Your info is a huge help! Liz

Hi Cynthia, > Phyllis, > What is the source for the birth years of the children shown below for Pieter > and Sara (Coevert) Lott please, > TIA, > Cynthia > > In a message dated 3/29/2007 5:20:04 PM Mountain Daylight Time, > PhyllisM19@aol.com writes: > > Dorothy, > You are right on the nose - again! > Yes, Mr. Phillips does give the will of the Pieter Lott b 1 March 1690, > Jamaica, and the children. This Pieter was the son of Hendrick Lock and > Catrina > de Witt Phyllis had mentioned the source in her previous post to the list, and prefaced the information contained in this email with "Mr. Phillips." The full citation follows: Phillips, A. V. "The Lott family in America" including the allied families: Cassell, Davis, Graybeal, Haring, Hegeman, Hogg, Kerley, Phillips, Thompson, Walter and others; Boston: Phillips (1942) p 19 It is available on-line through HeritageQuest. Regards, Pam > Will dated 12 Sept 1727; pr 4 June 1730 > Pieter was "of Flatbush" > wife: Sarah > sons Hendrick and Mauris not of age > names children in order given below. > His brother Johannes Lott and his brother-in-law Rem Remson and Andries > Onderdonk, Executors. > > Children: > Hendrick b 1716 (for his father?) > Mourice b 1718 (for her father?) > Cattrina b 1720 (for his mother?) > Antje or Agnietje b 1721 (Was that Maurice Covert's wife's name??) > Maria 1723 > Pieter b 1725 > > Hope this helps, Liz. > Phyllis

Unless I'm mistaken, it is only the 'Van Riper chapter' of the Nelson book that is on ripernet.com Perhaps the entire book exists online somewhere else, but I've never heard of it. Nancy ----- Original Message ----- From: Sbvrc@aol.com Date: Saturday, March 31, 2007 4:57 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees To: Dutch-Colonies-L@rootsweb.com > Nelson's book is available online at ripernet.com. Click on > "Van Riper" > (lefthand side of page), then click on "Nelson's Book." > > Sue Van Riper-Connolly > > ****************************************************************************** > > I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is > not the first > time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is > online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. > > Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both > the 1679 > "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I > transcribed the > fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list > of four plus > "associates"). > > Chris > > On 3/29/07, Howard Swain wrote: > > > > Hi all, > > > > The complete text of the patent (including the names shown > below) is > > in William Nelson's History of the City of Paterson and the County > > of Passaic New Jersey (1901), pp. 63-65. [Note: this is a > different book > > from the one Ethel cited. I have found this older one, in general, > > more useful. YMMV] This transcription is from the original > parchment,> which at the time was in the possession of ex-Judge > Simmons of Passaic. > > The settlers petitioned the proprietors for the patent on 30 > May 1684 and > > it was issued on 16 March 1684[/5]. > > > > Regards, > > Howard > > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > > > > > > From: "Chris Schopfer" > > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:05 AM > > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > > > > > > > Ethel: > > > > > > The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's > "History of Passaic > > and > > > it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: > > > Hans Dederick > > > Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] > > > Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > > Elias Machielson [Vreeland] > > > Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] > > > Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] > > > Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] > > > Adrian Post > > > Urian Tomason [Van Riper] > > > Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] > > > Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > > John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] > > > Cornelius Lubers > > > Abraham Bookey > > > > > > Chris > > > > > > On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > > >> > > >> Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk > purchase in > > >> Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? > > >> > > >> The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, > > between Captahem > > >> Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a > certain Prcel of > > >> goods, > > >> Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . > bargained and sold > > unto > > >> the said > > >> Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, > Hendrick George and > > >> their > > >> Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by > Captahem, and > > attested > > >> by > > >> the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of > Governor Philip > > >> Carteret." > > >> > > >> Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, > Gerrit Gerritsen > > >> [Van > > >> Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George > [Brinkerhoff]> >> "and > > >> their Associates" Who are the Associates? > > >> > > >> Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of > Acquackanonk, only > > >> three > > >> -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." > "One of the > > >> patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." > > [Westervelt] > > >> > > >> > > >> *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by > William Nelson > > >> and > > >> Charles A Shriner > > >> Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago > 1920 > > >> Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. > > >> > > >> Ethel Kay Konight > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word > 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject > and the body of the message > > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Liz, The Abraham Lott you show below was the son of the Pieter Lott who REALLY was married to Femmetje Remsen. Pieter Lott, who married Sarah Teunis Covert, was the son of Hendrick Pieters Lott and Catrina Pieters DeWitt. Pieter Lott, who married Femmetje Remsen, was the son of Abraham Pieters Lott of Jamaica, but I have never found a reliable source that positively identifies his wife. Abraham Lott of Jamaica left a will dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS 7:27] in which his son Peter was named an executor and numerous other children. The family of this Abraham Lott (1722-1794) has been addressed by Howard S. Randolph in "Jacob Boelen, Goldsmith, and His Family Circle" [NYG&BR 72:281] and A. V. Phillips in "The Lott Family in America" (1942) but neither were totally correct. Barbara A. Barth corrected some major errors in the NYG&B Record (Oct 2000) on pages 291-292 of Vol. 131. Abraham Lott, son of Pieter, was baptized at the New York Reformed Dutch Church on 5 Sep 1722 [Pieter Lott, Femmetje Remse; Abram; Abram & Marytje Lott] and he married 3 times. Abraham Lott married (1st) about 1743 to Cornelia Rapalje, the daughter of Joris Rapalje and Dina Middagh. Cornelia is mentioned as the wife of Abraham Lott in the unrecorded will of her father, Joris Rapalje of Brooklyn, dated 4 Sep 1745, proved 13 Mar 1764 [WNYHS 11:185]. Abraham Lott and Cornelia Rapalje baptized 2 children in the NY RDC: Peter, 2 Sep 1744 and Joris, 1 Feb 1747. Cornelia Rapalje was buried 3 Mar 1748 [HSYB 1899:176]. Abraham Lott married (2nd) on 9 May 1751 [NY license dated 8 Mar 1751] in the NY DRC to Jannetje Goelet, baptized there 31 Jan 1731, the daughter of Philippus Goelet and Catharine Boelin. Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet baptized 3 children in the NY RDC: Philippus on 5 Feb 1752, Phebe on 23 May 1753, and Pieter on 25 Aug 1756. Jannetje Goelet's date of death is unknown, but it was before 1763. Abraham Lott married (3rd) on 8 May 1763 [NY license dated 28 Apr 1763] in the NY DRC to Maria Van Alstyne, the widow of Abraham Van Wyck. Maria Van Alstyne was the daughter of Mattheus Van Alstyne, and was buried 8 Jan 1792 [HSYB 1899:176]. Abraham P. Lott of New York executed his will on 8 Apr 1793 (no probate) [WNYHS 11:212]; mention is made of his deceased daughter Phebe; her husband Rev. Isaac Blauvelt; and son Philip and his wife Mary [Kearney], and several granchildren. He was buried 26 Feb 1794 [Ibid]. Sorry, but I know nothing of the Abraham Lott who married Jane Hendrickson. Regards, Pam Sears > In an attempt to narrow the field of possible fathers for 'my' Henry > LOTT, I looked for an Abraham Lott who married 1750-1770 in NY. I found: > Abraham LOTT and Jane GOELET, m.9 May 1751, NYDRC > Abraham LOTT and Mary VAN WYCK, m.28 Apr 1763, Province of NY > Abraham LOTT and Marie VAN WYCK, m.8 May 1763, NYDRC > Abraham LOTT and Jane HENDRICKSON, m.4 May 1765, Province of NY > (source: "Marriage Index: Selected Areas of NY, 1693-1916") > > I'm guessing/assuming that Mary VAN WYCK and Marie VAN WYCK are one and > the same person and the dates are banns and marriage or 2nd publication > of banns. > > Looking for these people on-line I find several sources listing the > Abraham who married Jane GOELET and the Abraham who married VAN WYCK as > the same man...son of Pieter LOTT and his wife (on-line sources list > REMSEN wife, but I think we've concluded that Pieter's wife was Sarah > COVERT). However, Pieter's will (1727) does not list an Abraham. So, > who is this guy, or these guys, who married Jane, Mary/Marie and Jane? > > Thanks in advance for your help! > Liz

Nelson's book is available online at ripernet.com. Click on "Van Riper" (lefthand side of page), then click on "Nelson's Book." Sue Van Riper-Connolly ****************************************************************************** I can't qualitatively compare the two books, although this is not the first time I've heard that Nelson's is better. I don't think Nelson is online, whereas Scott is available via HeritageQuest. Please note, however, that Scott also has the full text of both the 1679 "Indian deed" and the 1684 indenture/patent (from which I transcribed the fourteen patentees names, since the deed only contains the list of four plus "associates"). Chris On 3/29/07, Howard Swain <hswain@ix.netcom.com> wrote: > > Hi all, > > The complete text of the patent (including the names shown below) is > in William Nelson's History of the City of Paterson and the County > of Passaic New Jersey (1901), pp. 63-65. [Note: this is a different book > from the one Ethel cited. I have found this older one, in general, > more useful. YMMV] This transcription is from the original parchment, > which at the time was in the possession of ex-Judge Simmons of Passaic. > The settlers petitioned the proprietors for the patent on 30 May 1684 and > it was issued on 16 March 1684[/5]. > > Regards, > Howard > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > > From: "Chris Schopfer" <cjschopfer@gmail.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 10:05 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Acquackanonk Patentees > > > > Ethel: > > > > The fourteen patentees, according to William Scott's "History of Passaic > and > > it environs" (available on HeritageQuest), were: > > Hans Dederick > > Garret Garretsen [Van Wagenen] > > Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > Elias Machielson [Vreeland] > > Hartman Machielsen [Vreeland] > > Johannis Machielson [Vreeland] > > Cornelius Machielsen [Vreeland] > > Adrian Post > > Urian Tomason [Van Riper] > > Cornelius Rowlofsen [Van Houten] > > Symon Jacobs [Van Winkle] > > John Hendrick Speare [Spier/Speer] > > Cornelius Lubers > > Abraham Bookey > > > > Chris > > > > On 3/29/07, ETHELKK@aol.com < ETHELKK@aol.com> wrote: > >> > >> Who are the original patentees of the Acquackanonk purchase in > >> Passaic/Bergen County New Jersey? > >> > >> The Indian deed for Acquackanonk, dated 28 March 1679, > between Captahem > >> Indian Sachem and Chief . . . 'In Consideration of a certain Prcel of > >> goods, > >> Blankets, kettles powder and other Goods . . . bargained and sold > unto > >> the said > >> Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen, Walling Jacobs, Hendrick George and > >> their > >> Associates . . . signed, sealed and delivered by Captahem, and > attested > >> by > >> the other Sachems, 28 March 1679, in the presence of Governor Philip > >> Carteret." > >> > >> Four men are mentioned in the deed. Hans Diedericks, Gerrit Gerritsen > >> [Van > >> Wagenen], Walling Jacobs [Van Winkle], Hendrick George [Brinkerhoff] > >> "and > >> their Associates" Who are the Associates? > >> > >> Nelson and Shriner wrote "Among the Patentees of Acquackanonk, only > >> three > >> -- Post, Spier and Bookey -- had proper surnames. .." "One of the > >> patentees of the Acquackanonk patent was Cornelius Lubbers." > [Westervelt] > >> > >> > >> *History of Paterson and Its Environs (The Silk City) by William Nelson > >> and > >> Charles A Shriner > >> Lewis Historical Publishing Company, New York and Chicago 1920 > >> Acquackanonk Patent Vol.1 Pioneer Families Vol.2. > >> > >> Ethel Kay Konight > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Phyllis, What is the source for the birth years of the children shown below for Pieter and Sara (Coevert) Lott please, TIA, Cynthia In a message dated 3/29/2007 5:20:04 PM Mountain Daylight Time, PhyllisM19@aol.com writes: Dorothy, You are right on the nose - again! Yes, Mr. Phillips does give the will of the Pieter Lott b 1 March 1690, Jamaica, and the children. This Pieter was the son of Hendrick Lock and Catrina de Witt Will dated 12 Sept 1727; pr 4 June 1730 Pieter was "of Flatbush" wife: Sarah sons Hendrick and Mauris not of age names children in order given below. His brother Johannes Lott and his brother-in-law Rem Remson and Andries Onderdonk, Executors. Children: Hendrick b 1716 (for his father?) Mourice b 1718 (for her father?) Cattrina b 1720 (for his mother?) Antje or Agnietje b 1721 (Was that Maurice Covert's wife's name??) Maria 1723 Pieter b 1725 Hope this helps, Liz. Phyllis ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Here is what I have on Teunis Slingerland, it probably does not answer the question, my line is from Rachel m Casper Van hoesen. JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com Descendants of Teunisse Cornelisse Slingerland Generation No. 1 1. TEUNISSE CORNELISSE1 SLINGERLAND was born in Holland. He married (1) ENGLITJE ALBERTSE BRADT 1662, daughter of ALBERT BRADT and ANNETJE VAN ROTMAN. She was born 1646. He married (2) GERTRUDE FONDA April 09, 1684, daughter of JELLERDOUWISE FONDA and HEETJE DOUWISE. Notes for TEUNISSE CORNELISSE SLINGERLAND: source dutch settlers society yearbook 1961-62 by Howard McConville the Slingerland Family Teunis settled on the flats near Albany 1654 in 1685 he and his son in law Johannes Appel bought land from indian chief Wolf Bear and Turtle Clan 10000 acres near Bethlehem New Scotland area of Albany Area probably includes present day Slingerlands on rt 20 he m 1662 Englitje Bradt in 1684 Gertrude Fonsa widow of Jan Bruckern 9 children order not certain theremay have been an earlier wife before1662 Children of TEUNISSE SLINGERLAND and ENGLITJE BRADT are: i. RACHEL2 SLINGERLAND, m. CASPAR VAN HOESEN, January 10, 1700/01. ii. ANNETJE SLINGERLAND, m. JOHANNES APPEL. iii. ARENT SLINGERLAND, m. (1) GERTRUDE COBUS VAN VORST; m. (2) CELIA ?, 1684. iv. ALBERT SLINGERLAND, m. HERTA MARIA BRICKERS, June 16, 1695; d. 1731. v. NEELTJE SLINGERLAND, m. MARTIN BEEKMAN, September 20, 1692. vi. CORNELIS SLINGERLAND, d. September 01, 1753; m. EVA MABIE, May 28, 1699. vii. ELIZABETH SLINGERLAND, m. THOMAS ECKER, October 27, 1700. viii. MARIA SLINGERLAND, m. JOHANNES MINGAEL. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Christoph" <pchrist1@nycap.rr.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 31, 2007 2:24 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ships List > I would think that Slingerland came before 1654. He was applying for a > building lot that October, and he and his wife had a child baptized ten > months later. With nothing more to go on I would guess that he wanted the > building lot because he was getting married around October and needed a > place to live other than whatever bachelor quarters he had before that. But > surely he didn't hop off the boat and into the arms of Engeltie Bradt -- he > must have been in this country for a while before that. How long he had been > here, though, or what boat he came on, those are anybody's guess. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Vsiefkes@wmconnect.com> > To: <DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:02 PM > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ships List > > > > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index First Edition, Volume 3 O-Z. Edited > > by > > P. William Filby with Mary K. Meyer; shows Teunis Cornelis Slingerland > > coming > > to New Netherlands 1620-1664. My information says he came in 1654. the > > references from the Index have #9135 p 10 and on that source I have > > Michael Tepper, > > editor. Passengers to America: a Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists > > from > > The New England Historical and Geneaolgical Register. Baltimore: > > Genealogical > > Publishing Co., 1977. Reprinted with new indexes, 1978. > > > > Can I be sure that this person came within that time period (1654) but > > what > > was the name of the ship that he came on? > > > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > > > Ginny > > > > </HTML> > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: 3/30/2007 1:15 PM > >

I would think that Slingerland came before 1654. He was applying for a building lot that October, and he and his wife had a child baptized ten months later. With nothing more to go on I would guess that he wanted the building lot because he was getting married around October and needed a place to live other than whatever bachelor quarters he had before that. But surely he didn't hop off the boat and into the arms of Engeltie Bradt -- he must have been in this country for a while before that. How long he had been here, though, or what boat he came on, those are anybody's guess. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Vsiefkes@wmconnect.com> To: <DUTCH-COLONIES@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:02 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ships List > Passenger and Immigration Lists Index First Edition, Volume 3 O-Z. Edited > by > P. William Filby with Mary K. Meyer; shows Teunis Cornelis Slingerland > coming > to New Netherlands 1620-1664. My information says he came in 1654. the > references from the Index have #9135 p 10 and on that source I have > Michael Tepper, > editor. Passengers to America: a Consolidation of Ship Passenger Lists > from > The New England Historical and Geneaolgical Register. Baltimore: > Genealogical > Publishing Co., 1977. Reprinted with new indexes, 1978. > > Can I be sure that this person came within that time period (1654) but > what > was the name of the ship that he came on? > > Any comments would be appreciated. > > Ginny > > </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

In an attempt to narrow the field of possible fathers for 'my' Henry LOTT, I looked for an Abraham Lott who married 1750-1770 in NY. I found: Abraham LOTT and Jane GOELET, m.9 May 1751, NYDRC Abraham LOTT and Mary VAN WYCK, m.28 Apr 1763, Province of NY Abraham LOTT and Marie VAN WYCK, m.8 May 1763, NYDRC Abraham LOTT and Jane HENDRICKSON, m.4 May 1765, Province of NY (source: "Marriage Index: Selected Areas of NY, 1693-1916") I'm guessing/assuming that Mary VAN WYCK and Marie VAN WYCK are one and the same person and the dates are banns and marriage or 2nd publication of banns. Looking for these people on-line I find several sources listing the Abraham who married Jane GOELET and the Abraham who married VAN WYCK as the same man...son of Pieter LOTT and his wife (on-line sources list REMSEN wife, but I think we've concluded that Pieter's wife was Sarah COVERT). However, Pieter's will (1727) does not list an Abraham. So, who is this guy, or these guys, who married Jane, Mary/Marie and Jane? Thanks in advance for your help! Liz

Hi, I also have these names in my family. Doug, in AZ. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cal and Sally" <calandsally@cableone.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 10:00 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Rapalje, Bergen, and Middagh families

It is noted in the court minutes of Fort Orange and Beverwyck for Oct. 20, 1654, that "Theunis Cornelisz van Slingerlant requests a lot. Postponed until the drawing of lots." The original court minutes, in Dutch, belong to Albany County and I think are at the county Hall of Records The records have been translated by A. J. F. van Laer in Minutes of the Court of Fort Orange and Beverwyck (published Albany, 1920) and by Charles T. Gehring in Fort Orange Court Minutes, 1652-1660 (published SyracuseUniversity Press 1990). Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: <Vsiefkes@wmconnect.com> To: <Dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 4:45 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Slingerland > Hello Howard and Peter, > > Thank you so much for answering my inquiry. I stand corrected on the > Michael > Tepper book. It is as you said, I copied it wrong. Must have been due to > the evening hour I was working on it!! > > I will check the Dutch Settlers Society of Albany vol. 36-37, pp 13-17 as > you > suggested. > > The petition for building lots in the village of Beverwyck is interesting, > is > that record found at the State library in Albany if you know? > > Again Thanks. > > Ginny > > </HTML> > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Dorothy, et al, Thank you for your contributions given below. I have found at least one other researcher on RootsWeb who has reached the very same conclusions, so I cannot claim "sole" credit, but safety in numbers (more than one!). See: http://wc.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=tagull&id=I17230 It appears that both Hendrick Lott and his brother Peter Lott removed to Trenton, NJ where Peter Lott (apparently married, but without children), left a will naming his brothers Hendrick and Mourice, among others. Calendar of New Jersey Wills, Vol. III, 1750-1760 Will abstract: "1755, Feb. 27. Lott, Peter, of Trenton, Hunterdon Co., yeoman; will of. Wife, Hannah. Sisters - Antie and Maria. Brothers - Hendrick and Mourice Lott. Nephews - Peter (son of Hendrick Lott) and Peter (son of Jacob and Catrina Rappleye). Real and personal estate. Executors - the above named two brothers, Hendrick and Mourice, and Timothy Smith. Witnesses - Daniel Scudder, Samuel Hand, Amos Scudder. Proved May 6, 1755. Lib. 8, p. 164. 1755, May 5. Inventory, 237.17.5 [pounds], incl. his Libra, horse saddle and bridle, 17.8 [pounds]; a negro woman and negro girl, 60 [pounds]; a servant man's time, 3 [pounds]; made by Garrett Johnson and Benjamin Moore. 1759, May 26. Account by the Executors. Regards, Pam > Dear Pam, In your definitive summary you said, "Going out on the proverbial limb, I think it is quite likely that Sarah Covert (daughter of Mauritz Teunis Covert and Antje Fonteyn, and widow of Pieter Lott), married as her second husband to Abraham Polhemus (as his second wife), the son of Theodorus Polhemus and Aertje Teunis Bogaert and widower of Geertruy Remsen." > > Remember that Phyllis Miller gave us the 6 children of Sarah Covert's first marriage to Pieter Lott: > > Hendrick b 1716 (for his father?) > Mourice b 1718 (for her father?) > Cattrina b 1720 (for his mother?) > Antje or Agnietje b 1721 (Was that Maurice Covert's wife's name??) > Maria 1723 > Pieter b 1725 > > I looked at later baptismal records of the Dutch Reformed Church in Jamaica, Long Island. Unfortunately the recording clerk followed the English custom of listing married women by their husband's surname. > > On 17 Nov 1746 Hendrick Lot and his wife Artyi Lot had their daughter Sara baptized. The sponsors were "Abraham Polhemus and Sara Polhemus". In the same church on 10 Feb 1751 "Hendreck Lot and Artyei Lot" had their son, Hendrick, baptized. There were no witnesses' names recorded. > > It looks to me that Sarah (Covert) Lott Polhemus -- along with her second husband -- was standing as godparent to her namesake granddaughter, the child of Sarah's eldest son, Hendrick, born in 1716. > > Another fact to confirm your logic! Dorothy

Hello Howard and Peter, Thank you so much for answering my inquiry. I stand corrected on the Michael Tepper book. It is as you said, I copied it wrong. Must have been due to the evening hour I was working on it!! I will check the Dutch Settlers Society of Albany vol. 36-37, pp 13-17 as you suggested. The petition for building lots in the village of Beverwyck is interesting, is that record found at the State library in Albany if you know? Again Thanks. Ginny </HTML>