I have almost all of these names. Do you have much information on them? Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Irv Emmons <irv@emmonsfamily.us> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, March 28, 2007 8:54:17 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families I have all three families in my line. Rapalje: Abraham, Altie, Annetie, Annetje, Cataline, Catalyntie, Catharine, Cornelia, Cornelius, Daniel, Elizabeth, Femmetie, Jacob, Jan, Jeronemus, jeronimus, Joris, Lysbet, Margrietie, Mary, and Sarah. Bergen: Anneken, Breckje, Catalyn, Gerrit, Gerritje, Hans Hansen, Hans Jacobse, Jacob, Jacob Hansen, Jan, Jan Hansen, Joris, Marretie, Michael, Michael Hansen and Sarah Joris. Middagh: Derick, Gerrit Aertsen, Jan Aersen, and Judith.

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In the Lott discussion, the surname Dorlant or Dortlandt arose. I am searching for information about Jannetje Dortlandt who married Jan Van Aarsdelen circa 1700-1710. possibly in Somerset Co. NJ. Pat in Spokane >> I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records >> as >> in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn "Abram >> Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans Dorlant born >> in Bedfort, >> had banns proclaimed with the consent of both their parents on 2 Aug >> 1695." >> Obviously there's something wrong with this notation? >> TIA, >> Cynthia > > I haven't been paying much attention to this Lott discussion, so I may be > off base here. > > But the A.P.G Jos van der Linde version of the Brooklyn RDC records, > p. 218, has for the date Cynthia shows: > "Abram Pietersen Lot, 'young man born in the Flackebos', > and Geertje Jans Dorlant, 'maiden, born in Bedvoort', > had their banns proclaimed, with the consent of the parents of the > bridegroom and the bride." > > > More below. > >> In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, >> pjsears@stratos.net writes: >> >> Hi Liz, et al, >> >> I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and on >> pages >> 9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. According to the >> records >> of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he was married 4 times, and had 8 >> children. All 8 children are mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 and >> proved 4 Sep >> 1766 [WNYHS 7:27]. > > The Jamaica RDC baptisms do not start until 1702. > >> Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had 3 >> sons > > In April 1696 Claasje Langestraat and husband Abraham Leek bp. son Jan at > Brooklyn > (Brooklyn RDC as above, p. 163) > >> (Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa 1699); > > I cannot find the above Johannes bp. -- unless it is a mistake for the > Leek one above. > The Voorhees Flatbush records show that Abram Lot and Geertie Lot bap. > a child with no name shown on 31 Oct 1697. The witnesses were Piter Lot > and Geertruy. > [So, the child _could_ have been Pieter, named after the witness.] > > >>2nd to Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt 1704; 3rd to >>Sara (_?_), by >> whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by >> whom he >> had son Hendrick bpt 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt >> 1722 >> (all Jamaica Church records). > > Those records are in NYGBR vol 105, which I do not have at hand -- except > for > the first page. > >> Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the "son >> of >> Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje Remsen. > > See above. > I could be wrong, but it appears to me Mr. Phillips has mistaken Leek for > Lot, > and that Abraham Lot never married Claesje at all, but married Geertie > first > as Cynthia points out. > >> At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York >> Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, >> Abraham Lott, and >> his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). > > The bap. record does not identify Marytje as his wife. Maybe there is > evidence of > that elsewhere. > >> >> The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that >> Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. >> >> Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson >> Pieter on >> 2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son of Abraham Lott >> and >> his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, same church, Pieter Lott >> and >> Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their granddaughter Femmetje, >> daughter >> of Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet. >> >> >> Regards, >> Pam Sears > > Regards, > Howard > hswain@ix.netcom.com > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Dear Bill, You wrote: > Larry, et al: > > If it is true that Abraham was not married to Claesje Longstreet, > then to whom do the children, Johannes (Jan) b. 1696, Peter b. > 1697, and Abraham Jr. b. 1700, belong? Are they Leeks or Lotts? The bottom line is that the baptismal records given by Mr. Phillips in "The Lott Family in America" (1942) where the mother is shown to be Claesje Langestraet, are Leeks (or, perhaps Lakes). However, Abraham Lott and his 1st wife Geertruy Jans Dorlandt did have sons named Jan, Peter and Abraham, but the baptismal records have not survived. Keep in mind that the Jamaica Church records only begin in 1702. Abraham Pieters Lott and Geertruy Jans Dorlandt married 2 Aug 1695 in Brooklyn, so we must conclude that the above named sons were born sometime between 1695 and 1704 (when Isaac was bpt at Jamaica). The possible exception _MAY BE_ the record in Brooklyn of perhaps Peter, the "unnamed" child [and thanks to Dorothy & Howard we have the following): > On page 451 of the "Flatbush Church Records", edited by David > William Voorhees, "Abram Lot and Geertie Lot" had a child baptized > on 31 October 1697. The name of the child was not recorded! The > sponsors were "Piter Lot and Geertruy". The will of Abraham Lott of Jamaica names all 8 children, but certainly not in birth order: Rem Charity Hendrick Jacob Isaac Abraham (deceased) Peter John Abstracts of Wills Vol VII 1766-1771 Liber 25, Pages 27-28 Page 320.--In the name of God, Amen. I, ABRAHAM LOTT, of Jamaica, in Queens County, "being in perfect health, but being far advanced in age, and considering that I have but a short time to continue in this transitory life." I leave to my son, Rem Lott, all my horses, wagons, ploughs, and all my carpenter tools; also all my lands, meadows, and messuages in Jamaica or elsewhere; And he is to provide me a comfortable maintainance during my natural life, and he is to pay to the rest of my children £504, as follows: To my daughter Charity, wife of Nicholas Van Aersdalen, £72; To my son Hendrick, £72; To my son Jacob, £72; To my son Isaac, £72; To my three granddaughters [sic], the children of my deceased son Abraham, viz., Abraham, Matije, and Cornelius, £72; To my son John, £72. All the rest of my estate I leave to my children. I make my sons, Peter, John, and Rem, executors. Dated July 21, 1760. Witnesses, Benjamin Hinchman, Robert Hinchman, Benjamin Hinchman, Jr. Proved, September 4, 1766. Regards, Pam Sears

Muffy, I didn't *write* the below < believe......snip > . It was part of Pam Sears very informative previous email. Cynthia In a message dated 4/2/2007 11:47:27 AM Mountain Daylight Time, UngerBMCM@aol.com writes: In a message dated 4/2/2007 11:35:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time, CMiddaughZuber@aol.com writes: > believe, but cannot prove, that this same Hendrick Lott married 1st to > Ariaantje Hegeman, the daughter of Joseph Hegeman and Sara Van der Vliet this is what i have in my notes on Joseph: When Joseph Hegeman died -- his will was proved 5 May 1741 in Jamaica, Long Island -- his widow, Sarah (Van der Vliet) Hegeman, married Johannes Koerten Van Voorhees on 2 May 1744 at Flatlands. Then Sarah and Johannes with her adult children moved to Dutchess County, NY, where Sarah died and left a will in 1773. In the name of God, Amen. I, JOSEPH HEGEMAN, of Jamaica, on Long Island. I give to my wife Sarah, the use of all my lands and real estate while she remains my widow. But as soon as she marries she shall deliver them up to my sons. After her decease I leave all my real estate to my sons, John, Hendrick, and Joseph, and they are to pay ?150 to each of their three sisters, Ariantie, wife of Hendrick Lott, Elizabeth, and Sarah. All personal estate to my wife and my 6 children. I make my wife Sarah executor. My eldest son, John, is to have ?25 Muffy ************************************** ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 4/2/2007 11:35:59 AM Mountain Daylight Time, CMiddaughZuber@aol.com writes: > believe, but cannot prove, that this same Hendrick Lott married 1st to > Ariaantje Hegeman, the daughter of Joseph Hegeman and Sara Van der Vliet this is what i have in my notes on Joseph: When Joseph Hegeman died -- his will was proved 5 May 1741 in Jamaica, Long Island -- his widow, Sarah (Van der Vliet) Hegeman, married Johannes Koerten Van Voorhees on 2 May 1744 at Flatlands. Then Sarah and Johannes with her adult children moved to Dutchess County, NY, where Sarah died and left a will in 1773. In the name of God, Amen. I, JOSEPH HEGEMAN, of Jamaica, on Long Island. I give to my wife Sarah, the use of all my lands and real estate while she remains my widow. But as soon as she marries she shall deliver them up to my sons. After her decease I leave all my real estate to my sons, John, Hendrick, and Joseph, and they are to pay ?150 to each of their three sisters, Ariantie, wife of Hendrick Lott, Elizabeth, and Sarah. All personal estate to my wife and my 6 children. I make my wife Sarah executor. My eldest son, John, is to have ?25 Muffy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 4/1/2007 8:53:50 PM Mountain Daylight Time, pjsears@stratos.net writes: I believe, but cannot prove, that this same Hendrick Lott married 1st to Ariaantje Hegeman, the daughter of Joseph Hegeman and Sara Van der Vliet. You may be correct Pam............... Ariantje was a twin to Jan and bpt. in the Jamaica RDC. Sponsers: paternal grandmother, Adriaentje Bloodgood, the wife of Hendricus Hegeman. 1 Ap 1716. And her father's will mentions her spouse, Hendrick Lott: I, Joseph Hegeman, of Jamaica, on Long Island... give to my wife Sarah, the use of all my lands and real estate while she remains my widow. But as soon as she marries [again] she shall deliver them up to my sons. After her decease I leave all my real estate to my sons, John, Hendrick, and Joseph, and they are to pay £150 to each of their three sisters, Ariantie, wife of Hendrick Lott, Elizabeth, and Sarah. All personal estate to my wife and six children. I make my wife Sarah executor. My eldest son, John, is to have £25. Witnesses: Benjamin Whitehead, John Dorlandt, S. Clowes. Will proved May 5, 1741. Sorry but that's all I have for Joseph's will. Perhaps you can find more of the will and the exact baptismal record for Ariantje in the Jamaica papers? Cynthia Frank J Doherty [thanks to Dorothy Koenig) discusses the Dutchess County Hegemans in Volume VI of his "Settlers of the Beekman Patent." He gives Adriaentje Hegeman's birth date as 1 April 1716 and notes that she married Hendrick Lott, but he does not give any information on their children, her death, or Hendrick's second marriage. *A* Hendrick Lott and Ariaantje Hegeman baptized 2 children at the Poughkeepsie Reformed Church in Dutchess County, NY: Jooseph #257; Bapt. Date: 8 Jun 1742; Parents: Hendrik Lot, Ariaantjen Heegeman; Sponsors: Henderikus Heegeman, Sara Heegman Source: Poughkeepsie Reformed Church (Baptisms) Maria #325; Bapt. Date: 2 Feb 1745; Hendrik Lott, Arianche Heckeman Source: Poughkeepsie Reformed Church (Baptisms) Joseph Lott appears to have died young, and Sara and Abraham (named in the will) may have come later, during the years the Poughkeepsie records are missing. Assuming it was this same Hendrick Lott who married Hester Boeckhout, here are those records: "Hendrick Lott, widower" m. 19 Sept. 1755 in the Rombout Presbyterian Church, Hester Buckhout, [NYGBR 69:286.] Names of persons for whom marriage licenses were issued by the secretary of the province of New York, previous to 1784. Publisher: Weed, Parsons and company Publication Date: 1860 City: Albany, p 54. Married by license dated 10 Sep 1755. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi all, Just to add one additional detail from the correction item that Larry mentioned: NYGBR "Additions and Corrections," Vol. 83, No 4 (October 1952), p. 238. The above note adds: "An unnamed child of Abraham and Geertje Lott was baptised in the Dutch Church in Flatbush Oct. 31, 1697, but in a collection of baptisms marked 'Endorsed Baptismal Records,' in the 'Miscellaneous Papers of the town of Faltbush in the Dutch Language, 1658-1799' in the Hall of Records in Brooklyn, there appears the record of a baptism on this date with the child's name entered as Peter." The intro to Voorhees' Flatbush records book (p. xxix) says that the baptism records at Flatbush have not survived for this time period and that he has added info "from manuscriopt pages of the Flatbush Town Records". Then on p. 448 is added a note before the baptisms for 1695-1699 that they were from "the Flatbush Town Records, Misc. Vol. I, 1652-1708, pp. 227-34, 237" (Which I failed to note in my previous message.) What is strange is that the above NYGBR correction was written before Voorhees' book. So did the 1698 HSYB Onderdonck version or the van Cleef version also add in these town records? And somehow Mrs. Spell (who wrote the correction) seems to have found a ms. that has the name Pieter that was not on the the ms. that Mr. Voorhees used or in either earlier publication? Anyway, no bap. record has been found for John and Abraham, apparently. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com From: "Pamela J. Sears" <pjsears@stratos.net> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 10:58 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Another Abraham LOTT puzzle Dear Bill, You wrote: > Larry, et al: > > If it is true that Abraham was not married to Claesje Longstreet, > then to whom do the children, Johannes (Jan) b. 1696, Peter b. > 1697, and Abraham Jr. b. 1700, belong? Are they Leeks or Lotts? The bottom line is that the baptismal records given by Mr. Phillips in "The Lott Family in America" (1942) where the mother is shown to be Claesje Langestraet, are Leeks (or, perhaps Lakes). However, Abraham Lott and his 1st wife Geertruy Jans Dorlandt did have sons named Jan, Peter and Abraham, but the baptismal records have not survived. Keep in mind that the Jamaica Church records only begin in 1702. Abraham Pieters Lott and Geertruy Jans Dorlandt married 2 Aug 1695 in Brooklyn, so we must conclude that the above named sons were born sometime between 1695 and 1704 (when Isaac was bpt at Jamaica). The possible exception _MAY BE_ the record in Brooklyn of perhaps Peter, the "unnamed" child [and thanks to Dorothy & Howard we have the following): > On page 451 of the "Flatbush Church Records", edited by David > William Voorhees, "Abram Lot and Geertie Lot" had a child baptized > on 31 October 1697. The name of the child was not recorded! The > sponsors were "Piter Lot and Geertruy". The will of Abraham Lott of Jamaica names all 8 children, but certainly not in birth order: Rem Charity Hendrick Jacob Isaac Abraham (deceased) Peter John Abstracts of Wills Vol VII 1766-1771 Liber 25, Pages 27-28 Page 320.--In the name of God, Amen. I, ABRAHAM LOTT, of Jamaica, in Queens County, "being in perfect health, but being far advanced in age, and considering that I have but a short time to continue in this transitory life." I leave to my son, Rem Lott, all my horses, wagons, ploughs, and all my carpenter tools; also all my lands, meadows, and messuages in Jamaica or elsewhere; And he is to provide me a comfortable maintainance during my natural life, and he is to pay to the rest of my children £504, as follows: To my daughter Charity, wife of Nicholas Van Aersdalen, £72; To my son Hendrick, £72; To my son Jacob, £72; To my son Isaac, £72; To my three granddaughters [sic], the children of my deceased son Abraham, viz., Abraham, Matije, and Cornelius, £72; To my son John, £72. All the rest of my estate I leave to my children. I make my sons, Peter, John, and Rem, executors. Dated July 21, 1760. Witnesses, Benjamin Hinchman, Robert Hinchman, Benjamin Hinchman, Jr. Proved, September 4, 1766. Regards, Pam Sears

My thanks to all of you who have stepped in to help untangle these LOTTS! Since I know that Abraham LOTT (@1760-1828, Orleans Co., NY) was the father of Henry LOTT (@1798-1816, Montgomery Co., NY), my next problem is to verify the parents of Abraham. I found the following info online: Parents of Abraham Lott Hendrick Lott b. 28 June 1716 in Flatbush, Kings County, NY d. abt. 22 June 1804 m. abt. 1746 Artyi (aka Katherine) Children: Ann Lott Sarah Lott Hendricka Lott Charity Lott b 30 August 1752 Peter Lott b. before 27 February 1755 Hetty Lott b. abt. 30 August 1755 Catharine Lott b. 19 February 1763 Abraham Lott b. abt 1765 Did this Hendrick leave a will? Probate record of some sort? Baptismal record for these children, or their grandchildren? Or is all of this a hopeful guess to which I can add my hopes? As presented, it sure does solve my brick wall, so my fingers are crossed. However, I need something more confirming on which to hang my hat! Many thanks for your help and advice! Liz

Actually, mine went the other direction ... from "more Dutch" to "less Dutch." As I small child, I knew my grandmother was of Dutch background. She said her father was "100% Holland Dutch." Her sister, my great-aunt, also spoke of the family being Dutch. Well, the family was Dutch - partly - no question about that, but as I got into the family research, each generation on my Long Island Velsor/Van Velsor line seemed to marry into mainly English lines. My great-grandfather was far from being "100% Holland Dutch," but he was actually a bit more Dutch than his father because some Long Island Dutch lines showed up in his mother's ancestry. But on the male Velsor/Van Velsor line - you have some generations marrying women whose ancestry was mostly English. I suppose the family move out to the largely English communities of Oyster Bay & Huntington reduced the Dutch pool of potential marriage partners & increased the pool of English ones. On the other hand, my wife had no concept that she had any Dutch ancestry, before I found a few Dutch lines in her "English" father's ancestry in early Queens County, Long Island. I think surnames play a very large role. Since my grandmother's surname was Dutch - esp. visible in the Van Velsor form - the Dutch tended to be seen more & emphasized more. The extact flip on my wife's side ... since her father's grandmother had an English name - she was "English" - her Dutch [& French Huguenot ancestry] was lost in the English surname. You can visit http://longislandgenealogy.com to check out some of the Velsor/Van Velsor genealogy posted to that site. This has long been a difficult family to research. David David Roberts Hollywood, MD ----- Original Message ----- From: "Irv Emmons" <irv@emmonsfamily.us> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, March 24, 2007 5:19 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] How I discovered I have Dutch ancestry > My father always said we were from German descent and that is what I based > all of my initial research. Accounts, after my research, were that my > Andries Emans came from England (unknown date) and entered Holland to get > away from religious persecution. He was in Holland for 40 years before > arriving in America. He left Leyden, Holland May 9, 1661 on the ship St.

Larry, et al: If it is true that Abraham was not married to Claesje Longstreet, then to whom do the children, Johannes (Jan) b. 1696, Peter b. 1697, and Abraham Jr. b. 1700, belong? Are they Leeks or Lotts? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Larry Voreis" <lvoreis@charter.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 4:20 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Another Abraham LOTT puzzle > Dear all, > > I found something in my notes that may clarify this discussion. This from > NYGBR "Additions and Corrections," Vol. 83, No 4 (October 1952), p. 238, > citing HSYB 1897,:143, 150. > > "Abraham Lott Jr. was married only three times, and not four times as given > in NYGBR 82:116, No. 101. The statement that his first wife was Claesje > Longstreet is in error. He married first Geertje Dorland who ws baptized 19 > August 1674, in the Dutch Church in Brooklyn, a daughter of Jan Gerritsen > and Ann Remsen Dorland. Her marriage is recorded in the same church as > follows: "Aug. 2, 1695, Abram Pieterse Lott, young man born at Flatbush, to > Geertje Jans Dorland, maiden born at Bedford. Were betrothed with the > consent of the bride's and the groom's parents." The wording indicates no > previous marriages (HSYB:1897:143 & 150)." > > Regards, > Larry Voreis > > > Hi Liz, > > > > The Abraham Lott you show below was the son of the Pieter Lott who > > REALLY was married to Femmetje Remsen. > > > > Pieter Lott, who married Sarah Teunis Covert, was the son of Hendrick > > Pieters Lott and Catrina Pieters DeWitt. > > > > Pieter Lott, who married Femmetje Remsen, was the son of Abraham Pieters > > Lott of Jamaica, but I have never found a reliable source that > > positively identifies his wife. Abraham Lott of Jamaica left a will > > dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS 7:27] in which his son > > Peter was named an executor and numerous other children. > > > > The family of this Abraham Lott (1722-1794) has been addressed by Howard > > S. Randolph in "Jacob Boelen, Goldsmith, and His Family Circle" [NYG&BR > > 72:281] and A. V. Phillips in "The Lott Family in America" (1942) but > > neither were totally correct. Barbara A. Barth corrected some major > > errors in the NYG&B Record (Oct 2000) on pages 291-292 of Vol. 131. > > > > Abraham Lott, son of Pieter, was baptized at the New York Reformed Dutch > > Church on 5 Sep 1722 [Pieter Lott, Femmetje Remse; Abram; Abram & > > Marytje Lott] and he married 3 times. > > > > Abraham Lott married (1st) about 1743 to Cornelia Rapalje, the daughter > > of Joris Rapalje and Dina Middagh. Cornelia is mentioned as the wife of > > Abraham Lott in the unrecorded will of her father, Joris Rapalje of > > Brooklyn, dated 4 Sep 1745, proved 13 Mar 1764 [WNYHS 11:185]. Abraham > > Lott and Cornelia Rapalje baptized 2 children in the NY RDC: Peter, 2 > > Sep 1744 and Joris, 1 Feb 1747. Cornelia Rapalje was buried 3 Mar 1748 > > [HSYB 1899:176]. > > > > Abraham Lott married (2nd) on 9 May 1751 [NY license dated 8 Mar 1751] > > in the NY DRC to Jannetje Goelet, baptized there 31 Jan 1731, the > > daughter of Philippus Goelet and Catharine Boelin. Abraham Lott and > > Jannetje Goelet baptized 3 children in the NY RDC: Philippus on 5 Feb > > 1752, Phebe on 23 May 1753, and Pieter on 25 Aug 1756. Jannetje Goelet's > > date of death is unknown, but it was before 1763. > > > > Abraham Lott married (3rd) on 8 May 1763 [NY license dated 28 Apr 1763] > > in the NY DRC to Maria Van Alstyne, the widow of Abraham Van Wyck. Maria > > Van Alstyne was the daughter of Mattheus Van Alstyne, and was buried 8 > > Jan 1792 [HSYB 1899:176]. > > > > Abraham P. Lott of New York executed his will on 8 Apr 1793 (no probate) > > [WNYHS 11:212]; mention is made of his deceased daughter Phebe; her > > husband Rev. Isaac Blauvelt; and son Philip and his wife Mary [Kearney], > > and several granchildren. He was buried 26 Feb 1794 [Ibid]. > > > > Sorry, but I know nothing of the Abraham Lott who married Jane > > Hendrickson. > > > > > > Regards, > > Pam Sears > > > > > >> In an attempt to narrow the field of possible fathers for 'my' Henry > >> LOTT, I looked for an Abraham Lott who married 1750-1770 in NY. I found: > >> Abraham LOTT and Jane GOELET, m.9 May 1751, NYDRC > >> Abraham LOTT and Mary VAN WYCK, m.28 Apr 1763, Province of NY > >> Abraham LOTT and Marie VAN WYCK, m.8 May 1763, NYDRC > >> Abraham LOTT and Jane HENDRICKSON, m.4 May 1765, Province of NY > >> (source: "Marriage Index: Selected Areas of NY, 1693-1916") > >> > >> I'm guessing/assuming that Mary VAN WYCK and Marie VAN WYCK are one and > >> the same person and the dates are banns and marriage or 2nd publication > >> of banns. > >> > >> Looking for these people on-line I find several sources listing the > >> Abraham who married Jane GOELET and the Abraham who married VAN WYCK as > >> the same man...son of Pieter LOTT and his wife (on-line sources list > >> REMSEN wife, but I think we've concluded that Pieter's wife was Sarah > >> COVERT). However, Pieter's will (1727) does not list an Abraham. So, > >> who is this guy, or these guys, who married Jane, Mary/Marie and Jane? > >> > >> Thanks in advance for your help! > >> Liz > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Norma, First let me say that I know nothing of Baltus Lott, and I have found nothing on him in The Lott Family in America" by Mr. Phillips. However, I do think that the will you show below for Hendrick Lott belongs to the Hendrick Lott, bapt. 21 Sep 1718 at Jamaica, the son of Abraham Lott and his 3rd wife Marytje (__?__). Note that this Hendrick Lott mentions his brother Peter of New York City, and his son Abraham. This is likely the Peter who married Femmetje Remsen and had only child Abraham who was bapt at the NY RDC on 5 Sep 1722, and married Cornelia Rapalje, Jannetje Goelet and Marytje Van Asltyne, the widow of Abraham Van Wyck (discussed previously on the List). Mr. Phillips in The Lott Family of America only mentions this Hendrick Lott briefy, on page 10, saying that Hendrick Lott, bpt 21 Sep 1718 at Jamaica (son of Abraham & Marytie), married as his 2nd wife to Hester Boeckhout on 19 Sep 1755 at the "Presbyterian Church" and had children Abraham, Mary and Sarah. He resided in Nine Partners, Dutchess Co., NY. [nothing further given] I believe, but cannot prove, that this same Hendrick Lott married 1st to Ariaantje Hegeman, the daughter of Joseph Hegeman and Sara Van der Vliet. Frank J Doherty [thanks to Dorothy Koenig) discusses the Dutchess County Hegemans in Volume VI of his "Settlers of the Beekman Patent." He gives Adriaentje Hegeman's birth date as 1 April 1716 and notes that she married Hendrick Lott, but he does not give any information on their children, her death, or Hendrick's second marriage. *A* Hendrick Lott and Ariaantje Hegeman baptized 2 children at the Poughkeepsie Reformed Church in Dutchess County, NY: Jooseph #257; Bapt. Date: 8 Jun 1742; Parents: Hendrik Lot, Ariaantjen Heegeman; Sponsors: Henderikus Heegeman, Sara Heegman Source: Poughkeepsie Reformed Church (Baptisms) Maria #325; Bapt. Date: 2 Feb 1745; Hendrik Lott, Arianche Heckeman Source: Poughkeepsie Reformed Church (Baptisms) Joseph Lott appears to have died young, and Sara and Abraham (named in the will) may have come later, during the years the Poughkeepsie records are missing. Assuming it was this same Hendrick Lott who married Hester Boeckhout, here are those records: "Hendrick Lott, widower" m. 19 Sept. 1755 in the Rombout Presbyterian Church, Hester Buckhout, [NYGBR 69:286.] Names of persons for whom marriage licenses were issued by the secretary of the province of New York, previous to 1784. Publisher: Weed, Parsons and company Publication Date: 1860 City: Albany, p 54. Married by license dated 10 Sep 1755. The index of the book by Mr. Phillips does not include an appropriate Andries Lott, nor any mention at all of a Baltus Lott. Baltus and Andries Lott may be brothers, but I don't think that Hendrick is another brother, but rather, the Hendrick Lott of Jamaica. Have you looked at the records of the Zion Lutheran Evangelical Church of Athens, Greene, NY? You may also want to check the Henry Z. Jones series on the Palatines, for the following records are from the Lutheran churches in the area. Philip #773; Birth Date: 24 Mar 1740; Bapt. Date: 15 May 1740; Parents: Balthasar Lot, Lisabeth; Sponsors: Philip Neiss, Maria Catharina Schmidin; Comment: baptized in Ancram Source: Baptism Record of Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church, Athens Balthes #1260; Birth Date: 17 Aug 1745; Bapt. Date: 30 Oct 1745; Parents: Andr. Lot, Christina; Sponsors: Balthas Lot, & wife Lisabeth Comment: baptized in Ancram Source: Baptism Record of Zion Evangelical Lutheran Church, Athens Susanna #182; Birth Date: 8 Dec 1746; Bapt. Date: 6 Jan 1747; Parents: Balthasare Lot, Elisabetha; Sponsors: Nicolaus Rew and his wife Susanna Henrich Wineger Source: Baptismal Record of St Peter's Lutheran Church, Rhinebeck: 1733-1899 [known as Stone Church] Philip #24; Bapt. Date: Jul 1764; Parents: Philip Lott, Elisabeth Sponsors: Friderich Sornberger, Maria Source: Copy Out of the Church Book from AC 1760-1772 Bethel "Round Top" Church, Pine Plains, Dutchess County [Lutheran] Andreas #56; Bapt. Date: 1 Mar 1766; Parents: Philip Lott, Elisabeth Sponsors: Johannes Lott, Rebecca Sornberg: Source: Copy Out of the Church Book from AC 1760-1772 Bethel "Round Top" Church, Pine Plains, Dutchess County [Lutheran] Jonas #150; Birth Date: 20 Apr 1775; Parents: Philipp Lott, Elisabeth Sponsors: Franz Bartel, Elisabeth Rau Source: Copy Out of the Church Book from AC 1760-1772 Bethel "Round Top" Church, Pine Plains, Dutchess County [Lutheran] Hope this helps. Regards, Pam Sears > While on the subject of the Lott families, I would like to ask if anyone > knows of this Lott. Baltus Lott born abt 1715 .1746 & 1747 Crum Elbow, > Amenia,Dutchess Co., NY Tax Roll shows three Lott men, Andries, Baltus, > and Henry. Also there were John and Richard Sackett.Frm the History of > Sharon, Litchfield Co., Ct it says Baltus was a tenant of Richard Sackett > who resided at Wassaic (New York) and had acquired title to thousands of > acres along the border. He (Sackett) was associated with the powerful > Livingston family of the Hudson River Valley and had helped settle German > Palatine refugees near Red Hook. > Amenia, New York is about 5 miles from Sharon, Connecticut and is in > Dutchess County, New York. I haven't been able to locate Amenia in relation > to Little Nine Partners but I believe Amenia may have been part of the > Little Nine Partners patent. > Abstracts of New York Wills Vol VI 1760-1766, page 211: > Page 369.--In the name of God, Amen, March 9, 1762. I, HENRY LOTT, of > Duchess > County, Esq., being very sick in body. I leave to my son Abraham o50. All > the > remainder of my estate I leave to my three children, Abraham, Mary, and > Sarah. > I make my brother, Peter Lott, of New York, and his son, Abraham Lott, > executors. > Witnesses, Jacob R. Eversen, Benjamin Knight, Paulus Mowrer. Proved, January > 18, 1763. > > I feel that the three Lott's,Baltus, Henry, and Andries in Armenia in 1746 > are brothers and Baltus is my ancestor. I am looking for more info and > records on this family. > > Baltus had 4 children I know of, Mary born 1744 in Little Nine Partners, > Dutchess Co., Ny, Baltus Jr, Samuel and Abram or Abraham. > Does the Lott Ancestry Book show anything on this family line. I have seen > that Henry from the will above is son of Abraham Lott and Maria unknown to > me yet and married Hester Buckout of Bushwyck. > Baltus born abr 1714 has been my brick wall for many years now. > Thanks for any info or suggestions on this family. > Norma Roberts

Hi to all, Interesting developments with this thread, and it does appear that Mr. Phillips was playing fast and loose with the baptismal records, and adapted some surnames to fit his overview of the family group. I too think it is likely that Geertje Jans Dorlandt was the first wife, and mother of probably Jan, Pieter, Abraham and Isaac. Howard wrote: At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York > Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, Abraham Lott, and > his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). "The bap. record does not identify Marytje as his wife. Maybe there is evidence of that elsewhere." PJS Comment: Yes, there is evidence elsewhere, for Abraham and wife Marytje baptized at least 2 (if not 3) children at Jamaica: 21 Sep 1718: Hendrick; sp: Abraham Lodt and Cornelia Lodt 10 Sep 1720: Geertje, "daughter of Abraham and Marytie" sp: Pitter Lot and Femmetie Lot 25 Jul 1722: Rem, "son of Abrame and Maritie Lot" sp: Chrystaganus Lupardus and Antie Dorlandt and, other sponsorships (as grandparents) at Jamaica include: 4 Sep 1725: Abram, "son of Abram and Pieternelletie Lot" sp: Abram and Marytie Lot 25 Sep 1726; Abram, "son of Abram Loet and Pieternel Loet" sp: Abram Loet and Marytie Loet. 23 Nov 1728: Geertje, dau of Isaac and Anche Lot; sp Abram and Marytie Lot The last wife Marytje could be a Dorlandt or a Remsen, but that is just a guess based on the naming of son Rem in 1722. When all is said and done, some of the alleged baptismal records appear to be incorrect, but the children were all named in his will, and there was no mention of any wife. He was probably close to age 90 when the will was executed, but only son Abraham had predeceased him: Abstracts of Wills Vol VII 1766-1771 Liber 25, Pages 27-28 Page 320.--In the name of God, Amen. I, ABRAHAM LOTT, of Jamaica, in Queens County, "being in perfect health, but being far advanced in age, and considering that I have but a short time to continue in this transitory life." I leave to my son, Rem Lott, all my horses, wagons, ploughs, and all my carpenter tools; also all my lands, meadows, and messuages in Jamaica or elsewhere; And he is to provide me a comfortable maintainance during my natural life, and he is to pay to the rest of my children £504, as follows: To my daughter Charity, wife of Nicholas Van Aersdalen, £72; To my son Hendrick, £72; To my son Jacob, £72; To my son Isaac, £72; To my three granddaughters [sic], the children of my deceased son Abraham, viz., Abraham, Matije, and Cornelius, £72; To my son John, £72. All the rest of my estate I leave to my children. I make my sons, Peter, John, and Rem, executors. Dated July 21, 1760. Witnesses, Benjamin Hinchman, Robert Hinchman, Benjamin Hinchman, Jr. Proved, September 4, 1766. Regards, Pam Sears p.s. Another error by Mr. Phillips has surfaced, but easily identified as such. In his footnote on page 18 (cited by Phyllis), he mentions that Pieter Lott, the son of Hendrick Pieters Lott, had a sister Dorothy, who married William Remsen, named in her father's unrecorded will dated 20 Apr 1712 and proved 16 Sep 1728 [WNYHS 11:67]. Indeed he was mentioned in that will, but there was a correction whereby "William Remsen" was changed to "Rem Remsen" [WNYHS Vol. 17, Corrections Vol. 2, p 373].

Dear all, I found something in my notes that may clarify this discussion. This from NYGBR "Additions and Corrections," Vol. 83, No 4 (October 1952), p. 238, citing HSYB 1897,:143, 150. "Abraham Lott Jr. was married only three times, and not four times as given in NYGBR 82:116, No. 101. The statement that his first wife was Claesje Longstreet is in error. He married first Geertje Dorland who ws baptized 19 August 1674, in the Dutch Church in Brooklyn, a daughter of Jan Gerritsen and Ann Remsen Dorland. Her marriage is recorded in the same church as follows: "Aug. 2, 1695, Abram Pieterse Lott, young man born at Flatbush, to Geertje Jans Dorland, maiden born at Bedford. Were betrothed with the consent of the bride's and the groom's parents." The wording indicates no previous marriages (HSYB:1897:143 & 150)." Regards, Larry Voreis > Hi Liz, > > The Abraham Lott you show below was the son of the Pieter Lott who > REALLY was married to Femmetje Remsen. > > Pieter Lott, who married Sarah Teunis Covert, was the son of Hendrick > Pieters Lott and Catrina Pieters DeWitt. > > Pieter Lott, who married Femmetje Remsen, was the son of Abraham Pieters > Lott of Jamaica, but I have never found a reliable source that > positively identifies his wife. Abraham Lott of Jamaica left a will > dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS 7:27] in which his son > Peter was named an executor and numerous other children. > > The family of this Abraham Lott (1722-1794) has been addressed by Howard > S. Randolph in "Jacob Boelen, Goldsmith, and His Family Circle" [NYG&BR > 72:281] and A. V. Phillips in "The Lott Family in America" (1942) but > neither were totally correct. Barbara A. Barth corrected some major > errors in the NYG&B Record (Oct 2000) on pages 291-292 of Vol. 131. > > Abraham Lott, son of Pieter, was baptized at the New York Reformed Dutch > Church on 5 Sep 1722 [Pieter Lott, Femmetje Remse; Abram; Abram & > Marytje Lott] and he married 3 times. > > Abraham Lott married (1st) about 1743 to Cornelia Rapalje, the daughter > of Joris Rapalje and Dina Middagh. Cornelia is mentioned as the wife of > Abraham Lott in the unrecorded will of her father, Joris Rapalje of > Brooklyn, dated 4 Sep 1745, proved 13 Mar 1764 [WNYHS 11:185]. Abraham > Lott and Cornelia Rapalje baptized 2 children in the NY RDC: Peter, 2 > Sep 1744 and Joris, 1 Feb 1747. Cornelia Rapalje was buried 3 Mar 1748 > [HSYB 1899:176]. > > Abraham Lott married (2nd) on 9 May 1751 [NY license dated 8 Mar 1751] > in the NY DRC to Jannetje Goelet, baptized there 31 Jan 1731, the > daughter of Philippus Goelet and Catharine Boelin. Abraham Lott and > Jannetje Goelet baptized 3 children in the NY RDC: Philippus on 5 Feb > 1752, Phebe on 23 May 1753, and Pieter on 25 Aug 1756. Jannetje Goelet's > date of death is unknown, but it was before 1763. > > Abraham Lott married (3rd) on 8 May 1763 [NY license dated 28 Apr 1763] > in the NY DRC to Maria Van Alstyne, the widow of Abraham Van Wyck. Maria > Van Alstyne was the daughter of Mattheus Van Alstyne, and was buried 8 > Jan 1792 [HSYB 1899:176]. > > Abraham P. Lott of New York executed his will on 8 Apr 1793 (no probate) > [WNYHS 11:212]; mention is made of his deceased daughter Phebe; her > husband Rev. Isaac Blauvelt; and son Philip and his wife Mary [Kearney], > and several granchildren. He was buried 26 Feb 1794 [Ibid]. > > Sorry, but I know nothing of the Abraham Lott who married Jane > Hendrickson. > > > Regards, > Pam Sears > > >> In an attempt to narrow the field of possible fathers for 'my' Henry >> LOTT, I looked for an Abraham Lott who married 1750-1770 in NY. I found: >> Abraham LOTT and Jane GOELET, m.9 May 1751, NYDRC >> Abraham LOTT and Mary VAN WYCK, m.28 Apr 1763, Province of NY >> Abraham LOTT and Marie VAN WYCK, m.8 May 1763, NYDRC >> Abraham LOTT and Jane HENDRICKSON, m.4 May 1765, Province of NY >> (source: "Marriage Index: Selected Areas of NY, 1693-1916") >> >> I'm guessing/assuming that Mary VAN WYCK and Marie VAN WYCK are one and >> the same person and the dates are banns and marriage or 2nd publication >> of banns. >> >> Looking for these people on-line I find several sources listing the >> Abraham who married Jane GOELET and the Abraham who married VAN WYCK as >> the same man...son of Pieter LOTT and his wife (on-line sources list >> REMSEN wife, but I think we've concluded that Pieter's wife was Sarah >> COVERT). However, Pieter's will (1727) does not list an Abraham. So, >> who is this guy, or these guys, who married Jane, Mary/Marie and Jane? >> >> Thanks in advance for your help! >> Liz > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Howard, It's from BOOKS OF GENERAL ENTRIES OF THE COLONY OF NEW YORK, 1664-1673: ORDERS, WARRANTS, LETTERS, COMMISSIONS, PASSES AND LICENSES ISSUED BY GOVERNORS RICHARD NICOLLS AND FRANCIS LOVELACE edited by Peter R. Christoph and Florence A. Christoph. It was published by the Holland Society in 1982. It's in the New York Historical Manuscripts series. The first reference is on page 370 and indicates the source as General Entries, 1669-1671, p 586. It says: A Passe for Jan Jansen de Jones to Goe for England and Holland in Mr. Cousseaus Ship. [ ]mitt and suffer the bearer hereof Jan Jansen de [ ]es with his wife and one child to passé out of [ ] Port with their Necessaryes in the Ship the Fort Albany and New Yorke whereof is Merchant and Owner Jaques Cousseau bound for England and Amsterdam in Holland without any manner Lett hinderance or molestation whatsoever Given under my hand at Fort James in New Yorke the 18th day of August in the 22th yeare of his Majesties Raigne Annoque Domini 1670. To all whome this may concerne. The like Passe was graunted to theise persons (vizt) Cornelys Jansen van Zeland with his wife and 2 children Teunis Hillebrant van Dickhuysen with his wife and sonne John Misrol his wife and child Adam Brower Barent Reyndertsen Monsieur Gabriell Minvielle Mr. Frans Boone Gerritt Gybertsen Gerritt Cornelyssen Rupert Roeloffsen Hartman Wessells Gabriell Herbin Isaack Staets Nellety Williams The second reference is on page 378 and indicates the source as General Entries, 1669-1671, p 602. [List of persons aboard the Ship Fort Albany.] [Partly from A:586] [Two lines lost] merchant and owner [ ] 1. Jan Jansen de] Jones, his wife and 1 child 2. Cornelis Jan]sen van Zeeland with his wife and 2 chi[ldren] 3. Teunis Hilleb]rants van Dickhuysen his wife and son 4. John Mi]serolle his wife and child 5. Adam] Brower 6. Baren]t Rynderts 7. Mosnieur Gabriell Minvielle a free Denizen of this [ ]vince 8. Mr.] Francis Boone a free Denizen of this provinc[ ] with his wife and familye with their goods merchandize and accessaryes 9. Gerrit Gisbertsen 10. Gerrit Cornelyssen 11. Rupert Roeloffsen 12. Hartman Wessells 13. Gabriel Herbin 14. Issack Staets 15. Nellity Williams I'm not sure how many other Adam Browers there were in 1670 other than Adam Brouwer and his son Adam Jr. Steve -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Howard Swain Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 3:19 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Adam Brower and the Fort Albany Hi Steve, I'm curious -- could you please say which of the many books whose title begins _New York Historical Manuscripts_ you found this in? Thanks, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com From: "Steve Brewer" <slbrewer@fuse.net> Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:21 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Adam Brower and the Fort Albany > Here's another question for Adam Brouwer experts. In New York > Historical Manuscripts, there is a list of passengers granted permission > to board the ship Fort Albany for England and Amsterdam in 1670. A few > entries later, there is what appears to be a passenger list of persons > aboard Fort Albany. Does anyone know any more about this? Is this Adam > Brouwer Berkhoven or another Adam Brower? I've been trying to track > down every Adam Brouwer reference I can find and locate sources. There > is a gap between his trouble with Gerrit Croesen in 1669 and his > Brooklyn tax assessment in 1675. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I wrote: <Does anyone have a copy of: "Ariaentje Cuvilje (Adrienne Cuvellier), Matriarch of New Amsterdam” by Herbert F Seversmith, National Genealogical Society Quarterly vol.35 (1947), pp.65-69.> Thanks to the kind person who sent me a copy. In the article Herbert F Seversmith wrote: <However, high feeling existed between the Dutch and the Indians; and it has been said of Adrienne Cuvellier that when one of her sons-in-law returned from the massacre of the Pavonia Indians in February 1643, with thirty prisoners and also heads of several of the defunct enemy, she, "forgetful of those finer feelings that do honor to her sex, amused herself in kicking about the heads of the dead men which had been brought in as bloody trophies of the midnight slaughter"> Seversmith put the 'kick-head' part in quotes but I could not find which reference it came from. This sounds more like a family story handed down through the generations. Can anyone document the above story? I hope not. This is my 10th great-grandmother. [Adrienne Cuvilje married Ghislain Vigne] Regards, Ethel ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Anyone, please................. Was this Abraham the son of the emigrant Pieter Lott and wife, Gertrude Lambert? Is his birth date/place known/sourced? Cynthia ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

In a message dated 4/1/2007 12:25:19 PM Mountain Daylight Time, pjsears@stratos.net writes: Hi Cyn, That is exactly what Mr. Phillips said in "The Lott Family in America." He wrote (on page 9): "In printed works this date is given as Aug. 2, 1695, but there must be a mistake in transcribing the Church Records." Beyond that, he made no attempt to resolve this issue, and I don't have the Brooklyn or Jamaica records. Well durn Mr. Phillips then!!!!! Continuing on page 9, Mr. Phillips wrote: Jan Lott was baptized at Jamaica 25 Apr 1695: "Jan Lott, son of Abraham and Claesje Langstraet" sp: Dirk Langestraet & Johanna Havens This was a *help* Pam. Johanna Havens was the 2nd wife of Dirck Stoffels Van Langestraat. Dirck had a dau named CLASSJE with his first wife, Katrina Van Leuwen. Thanks, Cynthia Pieter Lott was baptized at Jamaica 31 Oct 1697: "son of Abraham and Claesje Lott" Isaac Lott was baptized at Jamaica 27 Oct 1704 (son of Abram and 2nd wife): sp Gerrit Dorlandt and Catharyntie Lodt Jacob Lott was baptized at Jamaica 24 Jun 1716: "son of Abraham and Sara Lodt" sp: Douwe Van Ditmarse and Marytie Dorlandt Hendrick Lott was baptized at Jamaica 21 Sep 1718: (Abraham & wife Marytje) sp: Abraham Lodt and Cornelia Lodt Geertje Lott was baptized at Jamaica 10 Sep 1720: "daughter of Abraham and Marytie" sp: Pitter Lot and Femmetie Lot Rem Lott was baptized 25 Jul at Jamaica 25 Jul 1722: "son of Abrame and Maritie Lot" sp: Chrystaganus Lupardus and Antie Dorlandt Regards, Pam CMiddaughZuber@aol.com wrote: > Pam, > > I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records > as in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn > "Abram Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans > Dorlant born in Bedfort, had banns proclaimed with the consent of both > their parents on 2 Aug 1695." Obviously there's something wrong with > this notation? > > TIA, > > Cynthia > > > > In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, > pjsears@stratos.net writes: > > Hi Liz, et al, > > I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and > on pages 9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. > According to the records of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he > was married 4 times, and had 8 children. All 8 children are > mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 and proved 4 Sep 1766 [WNYHS > 7:27]. > > Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had > 3 sons (Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa > 1699); 2nd to Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt > 1704; 3rd to Sara (_?_), by whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and > finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he had son Hendrick bpt > 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 (all Jamaica > Church records). > > Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the > "son of Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje > Remsen. > > At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New > York Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal > grandfather, Abraham Lott, and his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains > unidentified). > > The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that > Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. > > Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson > Pieter on 2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son > of Abraham Lott and his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, > same church, Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of > their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter of Abraham Lott and Jannetje > Goelet. > > > Regards, > Pam Sears > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dear Cynthia, According to David Riker's 2004 Supplement to his "Directory..." this Abraham was the son of the immigrant, Pieter Engelbertszen Lot, and his possible wife, Gertrude Lamberts. Pieter, the immigrant, was born in Ruinerwold in the Drenthe Province. As mentioned before On page 451 of the "Flatbush Church Records", edited by David William Voorhees, "Abram Lot and Geertie Lot" had a child baptized on 31 October 1697. The name of the child was not recorded! The sponsors were "Piter Lot and Geertruy". If the child were named "Pieter" as some think, this identification holds up because Abram's parents would have been the godparents of the namesake grandson named for his paternal grandfather. Peter and Gertrude came in 1652. Riker doesn't say where their children were born, but they all may have been born in the New World. Dorothy >Anyone, please................. >Was this Abraham the son of the emigrant Pieter Lott and wife, Gertrude >Lambert? Is his birth date/place known/sourced? >Cynthia > > > >************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks so VERY much Dorothy. Big sigh of relief here!!! Cynthia In a message dated 4/1/2007 12:21:47 PM Mountain Daylight Time, dkoenig@LMI.net writes: Dear Cynthia, On page 218 of "Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York: First Book of Records, 1660-1752" the banns between "Abram Pietersen Lot and Geertje Jans Dorlant" are, indeed, given for 2 August 1695, just as you say. On page 451 of the "Flatbush Church Records", edited by David William Voorhees, "Abram Lot and Geertie Lot" had a child baptized on 31 October 1697. The name of the child was not recorded! The sponsors were "Piter Lot and Geertruy". It appears to me that Claesje Langestraet was not Abram Pieter Lot's first wife (as claimed by Mr. Phillips). Dorothy > >Pam, >I'm hoping you (or anyone) have access to the Brooklyn marriaige records as >in my Notes for this Abraham Pieters Lott I have, " At Brooklyn "Abram >Pieterssen Lot, young man born in Flatbush, and Geertje Jans Dorlant >born in Bedfort, >had banns proclaimed with the consent of both their parents on 2 Aug 1695." >Obviously there's something wrong with this notation? >TIA, >Cynthia > >In a message dated 4/1/2007 10:01:24 AM Mountain Daylight Time, >pjsears@stratos.net writes: > >Hi Liz, et al, > >I accessed "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips (1942) and on pages >9-10, he gives the family of Abraham Pieters Lott. According to the records >of the Jamaica Reformed Dutch Church, he was married 4 times, and had 8 >children. All 8 children are mentioned in his will dated 21 Jul 1760 >and proved 4 Sep >1766 [WNYHS 7:27]. > >Abraham Pieters Lott married 1st to Claesje Langestraet and they had 3 sons >(Johannes bpt 1695, Pieter bpt 1697 and Abraham, born circa 1699); 2nd to >Geertruy Dorlandt by whom he had one son, Isaac bpt 1704; 3rd to >Sara (_?_), by >whom he had son Jacob bpt 1716; and finally, 4th, to Marytje (_?_), by whom he >had son Hendrick bpt 1718, a daughter Geertje bpt 1720 and son, Rem bpt 1722 >(all Jamaica Church records). > >Pieter Lott was baptized at the Jamaica Church on 31 Oct 1697, the "son of >Abraham and Claesje Lott" and it was he who married Femmetje Remsen. > >At the baptism of their son Abraham Lott on 5 Sep 1722 at the New York >Reformed Dutch Church, the sponsors were the paternal grandfather, >Abraham Lott, and >his 4th wife, Marytje (who remains unidentified). > >The line is not carried forward by Mr. Phillips, and it appears that >Abraham Lott was the only child of Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen. > >Pieter Lott and Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their grandson Pieter on >2 Sep 1744 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church, the son of Abraham Lott and >his first wife Cornelia Rapalje. On 23 May 1753, same church, Pieter Lott and >Femmetje Remsen were the sponsors of their granddaughter Femmetje, daughter >of Abraham Lott and Jannetje Goelet. > > >Regards, >Pam Sears > > ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.