The control of the Genealogy sites and information is now dispersed beyond recapture and purity,it can never be brought back with accurate lineages again. ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Brady" <brady.j@att.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:42 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] NJ early land record abstracts now online atGoogle Hi Howard, I seem to remember that when Google announced their project of bringing books on-line that one of their partners was the New York City Library. Probably the Research Division. If so, that should include their genealogical collection, most of which is now beyond copyright protection. I've noticed that HeritageQuest, which is being pulled from genealogical society subscriptions, has many on-line books imprinted on the cover page as being from that same collection. So I throw this idea out to the list. What if, as some of us suspect [me, anyway], that Ancestry.com put pressure on HeritageQuest to pull back those genealogical society subscriptions in order to drive individual subscriptions back to Ancestry, only to find that Google was recreating that same database and becoming a free genealogical powerhouse? Anybody got a friend at Google? Ask them to sub-index the appropriate books they're copying under a genealogical heading so we can sort them more easily. Jim -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Howard Swain Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:18 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] NJ early land record abstracts now online at Google Hi all, While looking for something else (as usual), I discovered that vol 21 of the NJ Archives (aka Documents Relating, etc etc), which as the early patent and deed abstracts for NJ land records, is now online at Google Books. See: http://books.google.com/books?vid=0TBQOIngGiheymL6Ja0JozW&id=Pk0OAAAAIAAJ&pg =PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=inauthor:berthold+inauthor:fernow#PPR3,M1 They have more of the NJ Archives series, but (as seems usual for them) it is hard to find which ones they have and where they are. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well, here in the capitol of Kentucky, we got snow all afternoon. The ground was almost covered but melted quickly. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggie Longwell" <peggielott@peoplepc.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 8:00 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Symbol > RE: Symbols > alt 0163 is £ > Alt 0156 is œ > Alt 0140 is Œ > Alt 0128 is € > Alt 0176 is ° > > > I'm not sure what a couple of these are, but I have accidentally found > them while playing with the keyboard:<) > > Peggie in balmy Oregon-sending some heat back to the eastern > states-locally that means anywhere east of the Snake River!!!!!!!! > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 > 3:33 PM > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I have still not received the Rapalje report. Could you please send it to me. Sally Shreeve > The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell where the > cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several people but > do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday and today. I > just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> > To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:14 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ > > >> Hi Donna, >> >> Do you know where the French Burying Ground is located? I live about 2 >> miles from the New Bridge Landing, and never noticed a cemetery near it. >> I frequently take my grandchildren there on the way home from church, as >> the Hackensack River is tidal at that point and they like to look at the >> mechanism of the swing bridge. They are also interested in Dutch houses. >> >> I recently passed both Demaree houses, and it occured to me that it is >> the same name as Demarest if Demarest is given the proper French >> pronunciation. It got me to wondering if it is also the same name as >> mine >> (or more accurately my ex-husband's), de Mare, just with an accent given >> to the final "e." I know many French names were changed to sound more >> Dutch when the families went to Holland, or Anglicized when they came >> here. Does the book give any history of the Demarest family in France? >> Despite having been divorced for almost 20 years, the de Mare family >> still >> expects me to be the genealogist for them, and when my frmer >> father-in-law >> died a couple of years ago I was given everything of genealofgical value >> for safekeeping. >> >> Barbara (the NJ one) >> >> PS--it just occurred to me that I should add the de Mare family names to >> my list. >> >> >> Dutch (and Huguenot) ancestors: >> >> Abeel, Arents, Bancker, Barents, Baudartius, Bedlow, Beekman, Bradt, >> Cornelisse, Cuvilve, Damiens, Daniels, de Boogh, de Draijere, de >> Graaf, de Hooges, de Lanoy, de Peyster, d'Honneur, du Bois, Florisz, >> Hendriks, Het, Horsner, Huygens, Jans, Janse, Jacobze, Karneels, >> Keteltas, Kiersen, Lansing, Leusseler, Lubberts, Macque, Martsens, >> Maynard, Meyer, Meyrinck, Nazareth, Ostrander, Pels, >> Pietersz, Polhemus, Roosevelt, Rutgers, Samuels, >> Sauzeau, Scheerburch, Schepmoes, Schuyler, Snyder, Stunning, Suydam, >> Symons, Tjercks, Toll, Trijon, Tryon, Van Benschoten, Van Breestede, >> Van Capelle, Van der Werven, Van Elburch, van Eps, Van Heyningen, Van >> Rosenvelt, Van Rotmerz, Van Schoenderwoert, Van Slichtenhorst, van >> Wagenen, van Wagner, van Wenckum, Van Wyck, Ver Planck, Vigne, Wiltsie >> >> Collateral Families of Particular Interest: Deyo, Freer, Livingston, >> Roosa, Van Anstyne, Van Rennssalaer, >> >> >> Palatine ancestors: Acker, Eacker, Finck, Hans, Herkimer, Loucks, >> Petrie, >> Starring, Schnell, Tonges, >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. >> Historian, genealogist and attorney >> 155 Polifly Road >> Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 >> (201) 567-9440 office >> BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) >> http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ >> >> ----- Original Message ---- >> From: Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> >> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com >> Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 12:58:39 PM >> Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families >> >> Hi, I found the book Supplement to the second edition "The Demarest >> Family". >> The first two pages have the "Frrench Burying Ground, New Bridge (New >> Milford,) NJ. Transcriberd in 1902. Pub. 1971 >> >> I will sell this for $15 plus $2 postage. I keep running into books. I am >> not well and trying to get books where people will enjoy and use them. >> This >> one is like new. It is too bad, about 20 years ago I gave my hometown >> library the blue set of books. I did not need both and now I wish I had >> them >> because I do not think anyone uses them. >> >> Donna >> ----- Original Message ----- >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

That must be down by the Elks Club, just north of the Little League field. -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nancyterhune@optonline.net Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:53 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ The French Cemetery is behind the New Milford borough hall on River Road. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Stark Date: Friday, April 6, 2007 7:34 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell > where the > cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several > people but > do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday and > today. I > just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" > To:

Please put me on your list. Thanks, Barbara Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat <pgewers@omnicast.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 10:37:15 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Dorlandt Judy: thank you, but I believe I will pass on this kind offer. My bookcases are overflowing now. Pat Ewers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jacassidy22@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Dorlandt > Pat the Dorland book, the Dorland Engima will be published most likely by > May, this famiy is one of the main families in the book, so if you wish to > be > added to the notification list, please send me your full name and postal > address. > > Judy Cassidy > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I don't know about the rest of you but I can create a pound sign by using the character palette, currency symbols and clicking £ . I hope it does not reproduce as a question mark, as did the message authored by Phyllis Patton. I do use a Mac Power PC G5 and [OSX 10.4.9] and am curious to see if this symbol manages to make it through to your forum. Agnes C On Apr 6, 2007, at 3:26 PM, dutch-colonies-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > In recent posts several of you have had to write Inventory 237.17.5 > (like > this) or 60 [pounds] (like this). I want to share with you how to > make this > sign ? for the English and early New World currency pound sign. I > think you will > enjoy using this. > > Some years ago, Charles M. Cook, a fellow Hageman, Hegeman > genealogist, > shared with me how to make the English Pound Sign using the Numeric > Key pad > to the right of the key board. To do so hold down the Alt key > beside the space bar > and type 0163 at the same time and you will get ?. > > > Phyllis Patton

I remember when the 1687 house was moved there, but wasn't sure from whence it was moved. It looks like next week the kids and I will have to explore the region of the Elks Club (this week I have to cook Easter dinner for about 20). Are you a Bergen County person, Nancy? And if so, do you belong to the the Genealogical Society of Bergen County? Barbara Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: "nancyterhune@optonline.net" <nancyterhune@optonline.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 8:14:56 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ Yes. In fact the Demarests' "1678 House" (now at New Bridge Landing) originally stood where the Elks Club is now. ----- Original Message ----- From: Ray C Date: Friday, April 6, 2007 8:07 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > That must be down by the Elks Club, just north of the Little > League field. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of > nancyterhune@optonline.net > Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:53 PM > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ > > The French Cemetery is behind the New Milford borough hall on > River Road. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Donna Stark > Date: Friday, April 6, 2007 7:34 pm > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > > > The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell > > where the > > cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several > > people but > > do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday > and > > today. I > > just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Barbara de Mare" > > To: > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

>Can someone tell me the answer to this? In 237.17.5 - the 237 would >obviously be (pounds) £237, but does the 17, >then, stand for shillings and 5 for >farthings? 237 pounds 17 shillings and sixpence or normally written as £237 17s. 6d. The abbreviations are from the Roman libra solidus denarius A farthing was a quarter of an old penny - originally a 'fourthing'. Terry HJ England

Judy: thank you, but I believe I will pass on this kind offer. My bookcases are overflowing now. Pat Ewers ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jacassidy22@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 02, 2007 6:08 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Dorlandt > Pat the Dorland book, the Dorland Engima will be published most likely by > May, this famiy is one of the main families in the book, so if you wish to > be > added to the notification list, please send me your full name and postal > address. > > Judy Cassidy > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I don't know where the Elks Club or the Little Leage field are located, but do know Borough Hall. I will try to go check it out tomorrow. Thanks for the help. Barbara Dutch (and Huguenot) ancestors: Abeel, Arents, Bancker, Barents, Baudartius, Bedlow, Beekman, Bradt, Cornelisse, Cuvilve, Damiens, Daniels, de Boogh, de Draijere, de Graaf, de Hooges, de Lanoy, de Peyster, d'Honneur, du Bois, Florisz, Hendriks, Het, Horsner, Huygens, Jans, Janse, Jacobze, Karneels, Keteltas, Kiersen, Lansing, Leusseler, Lubberts, Macque, Martsens, Maynard, Meyer, Meyrinck, Nazareth, Ostrander, Pels, Pietersz, Polhemus, Roosevelt, Rutgers, Samuels, Sauzeau, Scheerburch, Schepmoes, Schuyler, Snyder, Stunning, Suydam, Symons, Tjercks, Toll, Trijon, Tryon, Van Benschoten, Van Breestede, Van Capelle, Van der Werven, Van Elburch, van Eps, Van Heyningen, Van Rosenvelt, Van Rotmerz, Van Schoenderwoert, Van Slichtenhorst, van Wagenen, van Wagner, van Wenckum, Van Wyck, Ver Planck, Vigne, Wiltsie Collateral Families of Particular Interest: Deyo, Freer, Livingston, Roosa, Van Anstyne, Van Rennssalaer, Palatine ancestors: Acker, Eacker, Finck, Hans, Herkimer, Loucks, Petrie, Starring, Schnell, Tonges, Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Ray C <raycapp@optonline.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 8:07:10 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ That must be down by the Elks Club, just north of the Little League field. -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of nancyterhune@optonline.net Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 7:53 PM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ The French Cemetery is behind the New Milford borough hall on River Road. ----- Original Message ----- From: Donna Stark Date: Friday, April 6, 2007 7:34 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell > where the > cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several > people but > do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday and > today. I > just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Barbara de Mare" > To: ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell where the cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several people but do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday and today. I just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ > Hi Donna, > > Do you know where the French Burying Ground is located? I live about 2 > miles from the New Bridge Landing, and never noticed a cemetery near it. > I frequently take my grandchildren there on the way home from church, as > the Hackensack River is tidal at that point and they like to look at the > mechanism of the swing bridge. They are also interested in Dutch houses. > > I recently passed both Demaree houses, and it occured to me that it is > the same name as Demarest if Demarest is given the proper French > pronunciation. It got me to wondering if it is also the same name as mine > (or more accurately my ex-husband's), de Mare, just with an accent given > to the final "e." I know many French names were changed to sound more > Dutch when the families went to Holland, or Anglicized when they came > here. Does the book give any history of the Demarest family in France? > Despite having been divorced for almost 20 years, the de Mare family still > expects me to be the genealogist for them, and when my frmer father-in-law > died a couple of years ago I was given everything of genealofgical value > for safekeeping. > > Barbara (the NJ one) > > PS--it just occurred to me that I should add the de Mare family names to > my list. > > > Dutch (and Huguenot) ancestors: > > Abeel, Arents, Bancker, Barents, Baudartius, Bedlow, Beekman, Bradt, > Cornelisse, Cuvilve, Damiens, Daniels, de Boogh, de Draijere, de > Graaf, de Hooges, de Lanoy, de Peyster, d'Honneur, du Bois, Florisz, > Hendriks, Het, Horsner, Huygens, Jans, Janse, Jacobze, Karneels, > Keteltas, Kiersen, Lansing, Leusseler, Lubberts, Macque, Martsens, > Maynard, Meyer, Meyrinck, Nazareth, Ostrander, Pels, > Pietersz, Polhemus, Roosevelt, Rutgers, Samuels, > Sauzeau, Scheerburch, Schepmoes, Schuyler, Snyder, Stunning, Suydam, > Symons, Tjercks, Toll, Trijon, Tryon, Van Benschoten, Van Breestede, > Van Capelle, Van der Werven, Van Elburch, van Eps, Van Heyningen, Van > Rosenvelt, Van Rotmerz, Van Schoenderwoert, Van Slichtenhorst, van > Wagenen, van Wagner, van Wenckum, Van Wyck, Ver Planck, Vigne, Wiltsie > > Collateral Families of Particular Interest: Deyo, Freer, Livingston, > Roosa, Van Anstyne, Van Rennssalaer, > > > Palatine ancestors: Acker, Eacker, Finck, Hans, Herkimer, Loucks, Petrie, > Starring, Schnell, Tonges, > > > > > > > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 12:58:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families > > Hi, I found the book Supplement to the second edition "The Demarest > Family". > The first two pages have the "Frrench Burying Ground, New Bridge (New > Milford,) NJ. Transcriberd in 1902. Pub. 1971 > > I will sell this for $15 plus $2 postage. I keep running into books. I am > not well and trying to get books where people will enjoy and use them. > This > one is like new. It is too bad, about 20 years ago I gave my hometown > library the blue set of books. I did not need both and now I wish I had > them > because I do not think anyone uses them. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >

Possibly, I am having a migraine, the first in over 25 years and I really don't feel like looking through the book. Tomorrow or soon. I couldn't get in to see my doctor until Tuesday so guess I will suffer through the week-end. Heat and ice both help if I sit still. Yes, this is the book. I just would like to sell it and hopefully someone will want it. I will take it to the Dutch Cousins Reunion and see. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peggie Longwell" <peggielott@peoplepc.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 4:18 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Dutch Houses RE:I just looked through my book "Dutch Houses" by Rosalie Fellows Baily and there are two pages on Vreeland, with Michael listed. I am planning to sell this book but I looked on the computer and it is valued at $299.00. Many of my ancestors are in this book. Ihave barely used it. I thought it was only pictures of houses until today. It is not hard bound, but a type of plasticed paper back. I will think about sending you the articles on Vreelandd. Then i will sell. Donna OH DONNA- Is this the book that has the b/w pix of the old Brooklyn houses? If it is, do you have access to a scanner or digital camera? There are about 6 houses with the descriptions and brief bios that have Lott families that lived in them. I would LOVE to get my hands on those again. When I found them years ago, I didn't know enough to document my sources-sorry, about that Dorothy:<))- and I just got poor quality Xerox copies of them. So. . .I'm on my knees begging for these copies IF they do indeed have homes that Lott families lived in. It didn't have an All name index, so I went thru it page by page and failed to copy a couple of them, because I didn't know they were connected to the Lotts. Woe is me!! You can e-mail me direct at: peggielott@peoplepc.com Peggie in SUNNY and WARM Baker City Oregon 63° here right now:<) Gotta go cut some wood for next winter now. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

No, you haven't sent me this list. You did send me the Flagon & Dragon (is that right?) stuff earlier today. My e-mail now makes me read the code for evewry outgoing e-mail. I was just thinking it was a sobriety test, but then got your migraine e-mail. I couldn't possibly do it with a migraine! Barbara Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 7:34:10 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell where the cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several people but do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday and today. I just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ > Hi Donna, > > Do you know where the French Burying Ground is located? I live about 2 > miles from the New Bridge Landing, and never noticed a cemetery near it. > I frequently take my grandchildren there on the way home from church, as > the Hackensack River is tidal at that point and they like to look at the > mechanism of the swing bridge. They are also interested in Dutch houses. > > I recently passed both Demaree houses, and it occured to me that it is > the same name as Demarest if Demarest is given the proper French > pronunciation. It got me to wondering if it is also the same name as mine > (or more accurately my ex-husband's), de Mare, just with an accent given > to the final "e." I know many French names were changed to sound more > Dutch when the families went to Holland, or Anglicized when they came > here. Does the book give any history of the Demarest family in France? > Despite having been divorced for almost 20 years, the de Mare family still > expects me to be the genealogist for them, and when my frmer father-in-law > died a couple of years ago I was given everything of genealofgical value > for safekeeping. > > Barbara (the NJ one) > > PS--it just occurred to me that I should add the de Mare family names to > my list. > > > Dutch (and Huguenot) ancestors: > > Abeel, Arents, Bancker, Barents, Baudartius, Bedlow, Beekman, Bradt, > Cornelisse, Cuvilve, Damiens, Daniels, de Boogh, de Draijere, de > Graaf, de Hooges, de Lanoy, de Peyster, d'Honneur, du Bois, Florisz, > Hendriks, Het, Horsner, Huygens, Jans, Janse, Jacobze, Karneels, > Keteltas, Kiersen, Lansing, Leusseler, Lubberts, Macque, Martsens, > Maynard, Meyer, Meyrinck, Nazareth, Ostrander, Pels, > Pietersz, Polhemus, Roosevelt, Rutgers, Samuels, > Sauzeau, Scheerburch, Schepmoes, Schuyler, Snyder, Stunning, Suydam, > Symons, Tjercks, Toll, Trijon, Tryon, Van Benschoten, Van Breestede, > Van Capelle, Van der Werven, Van Elburch, van Eps, Van Heyningen, Van > Rosenvelt, Van Rotmerz, Van Schoenderwoert, Van Slichtenhorst, van > Wagenen, van Wagner, van Wenckum, Van Wyck, Ver Planck, Vigne, Wiltsie > > Collateral Families of Particular Interest: Deyo, Freer, Livingston, > Roosa, Van Anstyne, Van Rennssalaer, > > > Palatine ancestors: Acker, Eacker, Finck, Hans, Herkimer, Loucks, Petrie, > Starring, Schnell, Tonges, > > > > > > > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 12:58:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families > > Hi, I found the book Supplement to the second edition "The Demarest > Family". > The first two pages have the "Frrench Burying Ground, New Bridge (New > Milford,) NJ. Transcriberd in 1902. Pub. 1971 > > I will sell this for $15 plus $2 postage. I keep running into books. I am > not well and trying to get books where people will enjoy and use them. > This > one is like new. It is too bad, about 20 years ago I gave my hometown > library the blue set of books. I did not need both and now I wish I had > them > because I do not think anyone uses them. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

OK Donna, yet another question dfor after your migraine is gone--what is the Dutch Cousins Reunion? Is it something which is open and you want publicized, or is it a closed group? I haven't had a migrane in over 25 years either, and would be most upset to get another. Hope it passes beofre Tuesday, and is not reaaly a migraine (or somwthing worse). Barbara Dutch (and Huguenot) ancestors: Abeel, Arents, Bancker, Barents, Baudartius, Bedlow, Beekman, Bradt, Cornelisse, Cuvilve, Damiens, Daniels, de Boogh, de Draijere, de Graaf, de Hooges, de Lanoy, de Peyster, d'Honneur, du Bois, Florisz, Hendriks, Het, Horsner, Huygens, Jans, Janse, Jacobze, Karneels, Keteltas, Kiersen, Lansing, Leusseler, Lubberts, Macque, Martsens, Maynard, Meyer, Meyrinck, Nazareth, Ostrander, Pels, Pietersz, Polhemus, Roosevelt, Rutgers, Samuels, Sauzeau, Scheerburch, Schepmoes, Schuyler, Snyder, Stunning, Suydam, Symons, Tjercks, Toll, Trijon, Tryon, Van Benschoten, Van Breestede, Van Capelle, Van der Werven, Van Elburch, van Eps, Van Heyningen, Van Rosenvelt, Van Rotmerz, Van Schoenderwoert, Van Slichtenhorst, van Wagenen, van Wagner, van Wenckum, Van Wyck, Ver Planck, Vigne, Wiltsie Collateral Families of Particular Interest: Deyo, Freer, Livingston, Roosa, Van Anstyne, Van Rennssalaer, Palatine ancestors: Acker, Eacker, Finck, Hans, Herkimer, Loucks, Petrie, Starring, Schnell, Tonges, Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 7:25:41 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Dutch Houses Possibly, I am having a migraine, the first in over 25 years and I really don't feel like looking through the book. Tomorrow or soon. I couldn't get in to see my doctor until Tuesday so guess I will suffer through the week-end. Heat and ice both help if I sit still. Yes, this is the book. I just would like to sell it and hopefully someone will want it. I will take it to the Dutch Cousins Reunion and see. Donna =

Donna: Could you please send me a copy of the Demarest Supplement. I have Demarest in my collateral line and need some help with them. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX billforshay@yahoo.com Donna Stark <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> wrote: The Demarest Supplement to the second edition does not tell where the cemetery is. Have I sent the list to you? I sent it to several people but do not remember. I sent so many people the Rapalje yesterday and today. I just hope I got the article to everyone. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" To: Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 6:14 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] New Bridge, NJ > Hi Donna, > > Do you know where the French Burying Ground is located? I live about 2 > miles from the New Bridge Landing, and never noticed a cemetery near it. > I frequently take my grandchildren there on the way home from church, as > the Hackensack River is tidal at that point and they like to look at the > mechanism of the swing bridge. They are also interested in Dutch houses. > > I recently passed both Demaree houses, and it occured to me that it is > the same name as Demarest if Demarest is given the proper French > pronunciation. It got me to wondering if it is also the same name as mine > (or more accurately my ex-husband's), de Mare, just with an accent given > to the final "e." I know many French names were changed to sound more > Dutch when the families went to Holland, or Anglicized when they came > here. Does the book give any history of the Demarest family in France? > Despite having been divorced for almost 20 years, the de Mare family still > expects me to be the genealogist for them, and when my frmer father-in-law > died a couple of years ago I was given everything of genealofgical value > for safekeeping. > > Barbara (the NJ one) > > PS--it just occurred to me that I should add the de Mare family names to > my list. > > > Dutch (and Huguenot) ancestors: > > Abeel, Arents, Bancker, Barents, Baudartius, Bedlow, Beekman, Bradt, > Cornelisse, Cuvilve, Damiens, Daniels, de Boogh, de Draijere, de > Graaf, de Hooges, de Lanoy, de Peyster, d'Honneur, du Bois, Florisz, > Hendriks, Het, Horsner, Huygens, Jans, Janse, Jacobze, Karneels, > Keteltas, Kiersen, Lansing, Leusseler, Lubberts, Macque, Martsens, > Maynard, Meyer, Meyrinck, Nazareth, Ostrander, Pels, > Pietersz, Polhemus, Roosevelt, Rutgers, Samuels, > Sauzeau, Scheerburch, Schepmoes, Schuyler, Snyder, Stunning, Suydam, > Symons, Tjercks, Toll, Trijon, Tryon, Van Benschoten, Van Breestede, > Van Capelle, Van der Werven, Van Elburch, van Eps, Van Heyningen, Van > Rosenvelt, Van Rotmerz, Van Schoenderwoert, Van Slichtenhorst, van > Wagenen, van Wagner, van Wenckum, Van Wyck, Ver Planck, Vigne, Wiltsie > > Collateral Families of Particular Interest: Deyo, Freer, Livingston, > Roosa, Van Anstyne, Van Rennssalaer, > > > Palatine ancestors: Acker, Eacker, Finck, Hans, Herkimer, Loucks, Petrie, > Starring, Schnell, Tonges, > > > > > > > > > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. > Historian, genealogist and attorney > 155 Polifly Road > Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 > (201) 567-9440 office > BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) > http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/ > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Donna Stark > To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com > Sent: Friday, April 6, 2007 12:58:39 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] RAPALJE, BERGEN, and MIDDAG families > > Hi, I found the book Supplement to the second edition "The Demarest > Family". > The first two pages have the "Frrench Burying Ground, New Bridge (New > Milford,) NJ. Transcriberd in 1902. Pub. 1971 > > I will sell this for $15 plus $2 postage. I keep running into books. I am > not well and trying to get books where people will enjoy and use them. > This > one is like new. It is too bad, about 20 years ago I gave my hometown > library the blue set of books. I did not need both and now I wish I had > them > because I do not think anyone uses them. > > Donna > ----- Original Message ----- > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut. --------------------------------- 8:00? 8:25? 8:40? Find a flick in no time with theYahoo! Search movie showtime shortcut.

Don't forget that in colonial America (and in independent America until almost the Civil War) the British units of value -- pounds, shillings, and pence -- were not the same as in Britain, and even varied from colony to colony and state to state. Hugh MacDougall, Cooperstown, NY

RE: Symbols alt 0163 is £ Alt 0156 is œ Alt 0140 is Œ Alt 0128 is € Alt 0176 is ° I'm not sure what a couple of these are, but I have accidentally found them while playing with the keyboard:<) Peggie in balmy Oregon-sending some heat back to the eastern states-locally that means anywhere east of the Snake River!!!!!!!! -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.26/748 - Release Date: 4/5/2007 3:33 PM

Hi all, While looking for something else (as usual), I discovered that vol 21 of the NJ Archives (aka Documents Relating, etc etc), which as the early patent and deed abstracts for NJ land records, is now online at Google Books. See: http://books.google.com/books?vid=0TBQOIngGiheymL6Ja0JozW&id=Pk0OAAAAIAAJ&pg=PA1&lpg=PA1&dq=inauthor:berthold+inauthor:fernow#PPR3,M1 They have more of the NJ Archives series, but (as seems usual for them) it is hard to find which ones they have and where they are. Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

Hi Phyllis, Thank you for the instructions on how to make the £ sign. The is really cool! Leslie Potter Glen Mills, PA ----- Original Message ----- From: <General367@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Symbol for Making the English Pound Sign Hello Fellow Listers: In recent posts several of you have had to write Inventory 237.17.5 (like this) or 60 [pounds] (like this). I want to share with you how to make this sign £ for the English and early New World currency pound sign. I think you will enjoy using this. Some years ago, Charles M. Cook, a fellow Hageman, Hegeman genealogist, shared with me how to make the English Pound Sign using the Numeric Key pad to the right of the key board. To do so hold down the Alt key beside the space bar and type 0163 at the same time and you will get £. Can someone tell me the answer to this? In 237.17.5 - the 237 would obviously be (pounds) £237, but does the 17, then, stand for shillings and 5 for farthings? Phyllis Patton ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Sorry, guess I did not read far enough. When thye used this, they put S, then P for pence. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: "Peter Christoph" <pchrist1@nycap.rr.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 3:23 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Symbol for Making the English Pound Sign The 5 is pence. Peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Donna Stark" <donnaStarkKy@fewpb.net> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 2:34 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Symbol for Making the English Pound Sign Yes. I have done a lot of work with old records and that is the way they wrote it. Mostly in the deeds of early Virginia is this way of writing done, or early Kentucky also. Donna ----- Original Message ----- From: <General367@aol.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, April 06, 2007 1:45 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Symbol for Making the English Pound Sign Hello Fellow Listers: In recent posts several of you have had to write Inventory 237.17.5 (like this) or 60 [pounds] (like this). I want to share with you how to make this sign £ for the English and early New World currency pound sign. I think you will enjoy using this. Some years ago, Charles M. Cook, a fellow Hageman, Hegeman genealogist, shared with me how to make the English Pound Sign using the Numeric Key pad to the right of the key board. To do so hold down the Alt key beside the space bar and type 0163 at the same time and you will get £. Can someone tell me the answer to this? In 237.17.5 - the 237 would obviously be (pounds) £237, but does the 17, then, stand for shillings and 5 for farthings? Phyllis Patton ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message