In published genealogies of the Van Buren family, its stated that Martin Cornelissen Van Buren(1638-1703) son of Cornelis Maessen owned a house and barn in Bethlehem which he sold to Gijsbert Cornelis[Van Der Bergh?] in 1662. Unfortunately, I'm not able to find the source of this transaction - can anyone help? Terry HJ

The source for this is A J L Van Laer, tr. and ed., Early Records of Albany 3 (Notarial Papers 1 and 2 1660-1696): page 157. On this day, the 20th of May 1662, Marten Cornelisz acknowledges that he has sold and Gysbert Cornelisz van den Berch that he has purchased of him the house, barn, rick and fences erected on the land of the plantation by him hitherto occupied, standing and lying in the colony of Rensselaerswyck on this side of the Betlehem, to the buyer known; for which the buyer promises to pay the quantity of ninety skipples of wheat in three installments; one-third part next autumn; the second third part one year thereafter, anno 1663; and the last third part in the autumn of 1664, every time punctually. All in good faith, without fraud or guile, in the colony of Rensselaerswyck, dated as above. This mark + was made by Gysbert Cornelisz van [den] Berch, aforenamed This mark X was made by Marten Cornelisz, aforenamed END QUOTE Van Laer does not have a footnote saying which Marten Cornelisse this is (van Buren or van Ysselstein). However, he has indexed it under van Ysselstein, who signed this and other documents including his will with his mark, an X. It seems ambiguous to me. Ruth Piwonka On May 23, 2007, at 6:09 PM, THJ wrote: > In published genealogies of the Van Buren family, its stated that > Martin Cornelissen Van Buren(1638-1703) son of Cornelis Maessen > owned a house and barn in Bethlehem which he sold to Gijsbert > Cornelis[Van Der Bergh?] in 1662. > > Unfortunately, I'm not able to find the source of this transaction - > can anyone help? > > Terry HJ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Roland, Long time no see. That must have been a few years ago. On 5/23/07, Roland Elliott <rolandelliott@inreach.com> wrote: > > Cor do you have the Bill of Lading and or Passenger/Passage list? The "Gelderlandt" journey was a secret mission, so I already told you too much. LOL Nah seriously, I have a list of the released prisoners of the "Erasmus van Rotterdam": Regards Cor Journal of the Ambassy of the Lord Anthonis de Liedekerke sent Following are the names of the slaves who had sailed with the ship "Erasmus van Rotterdam" on 17th April 1638 in the service of the West-India Company, and after having been stranded, under the Santon Sidali from Jliego in Barbary had fallen into slavery, and now by the Lord Ambassador are freed. Chief merchant Jacob Adriaenss. Vander Wel, from Delft. Common merchant Crijn Alderss. Coninck, from Delft. Captain Ocker Willemss. Kruijfhooft, from Rotterdam. Navigating officer Pieter Pieterss. Princelandt, near Den Briel. Chief boatswain Leendert Francken Vander Horst, from Rotterdam. Carpenter Cornelis Jacobss., from Rotterdam. Assistant Hans Jeuriaen Bierboom, from Amsterdam. Assistant Pieter Franss. Vander Wiel, from Delft. Cook Cornelis Pieterss., from Santvoort [Zandvoort]. Quartermaster Philips Gerritss., from Delft. Quartermaster Jan Barentse, from Rotterdam. Quartermaster Simon Janss., from Rotterdam. Boatswain Marten Hermanss, Vander Heij, from Rotterdam. Soldier Jan Korts. Vander Neurs, from Leijden [Leiden]. Captain's son Willem Ockerss. Kruijffhooft, from Rotterdam. Barber Abraham Fort, from Baiona. Soldier Simon Mulaert. Boatswain's hand Jacob Janss. from 's-Gravesande. Sailor Jacob Leendertse, from Den Briel. Dominee Pieter Havenss, from Rotterdam. Sailor Jan Aelbertse, from Haerlem. Sailor Cornelis Hermanss., from Rotterdam. Cooper Job Janss., from Rotterdam. Cooper's hand Adriaen Tomass., from Rotterdam. Provost Jan Janss., from Luijck [Liège, Flandres]. Sailor Dingheman Gijsbertss., from Brouwershaven. Boatswain Leenaert Wouterss. Gaerpenning, from Rotterdam. Hornblower Jan Frederickss., from Rotterdam. Cabin-hand Floris Theemissen Beddeman, from Rotterdam. Cabin-hand Paulus Janss., from Rotterdam. Sailor Laurens Jsackse, from Santvoort [Zandvoort]. Sailor Engelbrecht Willemss., from 's-Gravenhage. Sailor Cornelis Claess., from Durkerdam. [Durgerdam] Soldier Jacob Janss., from Rotterdam. Soldaet Jan Janss., from Leijden [Leiden]. Soldier Jan Pieterss., from Santefoeij. A boy Hendrick Jacobss., from Rotterdam. A boy Hendrick Joriss., from Rotterdam. A boy Dirck Lambertsen, from Rotterdam. Soldier Jsack Jasperss., from Middelburg. Sailor Dirck Dircksen, from Amsterdam. Corporal of the rifle Huijber Pieterss., from Gorcum. Sailor Jan Corneliss. Post, from Rotterdam. Sailor Lambert Janss., from Leerdam. Soldier Jacob Janss. Van de Velde, from Rotterdam. The following men died in Jliego: Sailmaker Jan Jan Pieterss. Peijesant, from Delft. Soldier Pieter Janss., from Hoesum. Boatswain Jacob Janss. Lerenbaert, from Gendt [Gand, Flandres]. Soldier Jan, from Bommel. Boatswain Marten Dirckse, from Tessel.

Dear friends, After becoming interested in Jan Janszoon of Haerlem and his possible descendents in New Amsterdam, we looked around for more information that could be found about him and his family. We found the journal of Adriaen Matham, an artist from Haarlem, Noord Holland, who in 1640 was sent along on a diplomatic mission to Morocco, where he met Jan Janszoon in person. So in hopes of obtaining more info about Jan Janszoon's descendents, we decided to go ahead and translate Matham's entire travel log from seventeenth-century Dutch into English. Some background: Jan Janszoon, it may be remembered, was one of the most notorious of the Dutch renegades, who became a pirate in the early part of the seventeenth century, living the latter half of his life as a pirate admiral in Sallee, Morocco. Janszoon had at least two sons who were thought to have come to New Amsterdam. Lijsbeth Jans was one of the daughters of this notorious renegade, and his Dutch wife Soutgen Caves. Another daughter of Jansoon's had been married to Jacob Arissen, who was also on board the "Gelderlandt". On the 1st of September 1640, the ship "Gelderlandt" sailed from Texel on a diplomatic mission to the King of Morocco. On board were the Dutch Ambassador Anthonie de Liedekerke, Lijsbeth Jans with her brother-in-law Jacob Arissen, and the painter Adriaen Matham. The 1640-41 diplomatic mission to Morocco was made in order to renew the Dutch alliance with Morocco, and to effect the release of some fifty men who had been employed aboard the ship "Erasmus van Rotterdam." This ship had stranded* *off the coast of Morocco near Agadir in May 1638, and her crew had been enslaved there. By 1640, funds had been raised for ransom, and Admiral Liedekerke was delegated to negotiate their ransom and release. Jan Janszoon assisted with this dual mission by making certain arrangements with his Moroccan associates for Liedekerke. Adriaen Matham, along with another artist, were sent along on this mission, possibly to make observations about the geography of countries they passed, and to record observations about the persons with whom they came in contact. Adriaen Matham wrote a detailed journal during their journey, and along the way he made some thirty paintings and drawings of various flora and fauna, places and persons he observed. His journal starts like a ships log with wind directions and course indications, but once arrived in Barbary his reports become more detailed and interesting. Matham's journal gives a rare and interesting look at what kind of events were taking place on the other side of the Atlantic as New Amsterdam was in its early days of development. After finishing the translation of Matham's journal, we found no there was no mention of any sons of Jan Janszoon in it. But since Matham does describe Jan Janszoon himself, and recounts the reunion with his daughter, Lysbet Jans, and because Matham also gives the name of another of Janszoon's sons-in-law, we thought certain extracts from Matham's journal would be of interest here. We hope after reading this, that others may be able to make further connections with this family. But even if not, we think these extracts from Adriaen Matham's journal will be enjoyable. Here are some of Matham's observations. Our added notes are in [brackets]. *Extracted entries from Adriaen Matham's Journal 1640-1641* *[On the 28th of December 1640, the "Gelderlandt" was at Saffia, a harbor in Morocco on the Atlantic coast. Matham's entry for that day contains the first reference to Jan Janszoon]* On the 28th ditto. Our small sloop went ashore and returned with our people who had stayed for two days in Saffia. Along with them came a barque with Moors, bringing many kinds of provisions. ...The skipper of the barque also brought two letters from Jan Janss. van Haerlem living in Muladie [Oualidia], six or seven miles from Saffia. One letter was written to the Lord Ambassador, the other to his daughter, who had come along with us on this journey to visit her father, whereof he was informed by special messenger from Saffia. He invited her very heartily to join him, sending along some refreshments as a gift. But being informed of the dangers of travelling inland and particularly for females, she did not dare to do so. But it was agreed that her brother-in-law, who also had come along with us in our ship, would go to Muladie with the six or eight Moors whom his father-in-law had selected from his servants and sent from Muladie to Saffia as a convoy to escort them there. This occurred that same day. On the 30th ditto. Jacob Ariss. came back on board with his father-in-law Jan Janss. van Haerlem (this Jan Janss. van Haerlem accompanied by 18 servants went part of the way from Maladie to meet his son-in-law) who sat comfortably in the barque on a rug and satin pillows, his servants around him. He was then led into the cabin of the Lord Ambassador, where his daughter was. When the father saw his daughter they both started to cry and after speaking with her for a while he took his leave of the Lord Ambassador, promising him that he would provide fresh water for us the next day, and that if the weather was good he and his daughter would visit us again on board. We had our doubts if this would happen, but only time will give that outcome. On the 31st ditto. Our lieutenant went with both the steersmen and some deckhands and empty barrels in a boat to the shore to get some water. While the sloop stayed away from the breakers, the Moors got three of our men with the barrels ashore, but once filled the Moors did not want to let them go until Jan Janss. van Haerlem, who still was in Saffia with his daughter and the brother-in-law, had paid nineteen pieces of eight [19 coins of 8 reaal] on behalf of the Lord Ambassador. ...Our men reported that they had noticed that Lijsbeth Jans has had her fill of people and the country and consequently had wished to be on board again, but she would leave the next day with her father to Maladia, because his business would not allow him to stay away much longer. On the 1st January A° 1641. Our crew went ashore with the small and the large sloop to get the water that had been left there. This was done, and Jan Janss. van Haerlem had already left with his daughter for Maladia. On the 9th February. Our boat with our people went ashore and were informed there that the Lord Ambassador with his entourage was invited to come from his ship on the 11th; also that His Majesty of Morocco had charged the Governor of Saffia that he at time of our journey will provide for all of our needs. On the 11th ditto. The Lord ambassador [[Liedekerke]] left the ship on a barque of the Moors with all his people and baggage, and was welcomed ashore according to the local customs with flutes, drums and a great number of musketeers, accompanied by the Governor of the town and by the forementioned Jan Janss. van Haerlem. There was a valuable horse led in for the Lord Ambassador. ...From Saffia I made a three or four day trip to the castle of Maladia, the governor of which is Jan Janss, van Haerlem. By him I was entertained and welcomed very cordially. And I have drawn for him the castle with the entrance of the harbor, and the river, where the ships lie at anchor. *[After the meeting with the King of Morocco, the entourage returned to the "Gelderlandt" and they set sail for St. Crux. There the Ambassador paid the ransom for the 45 crew members of the ship "Erasmus van Rotterdam", that had stranded near Agadir in May 1638. On their way home, the ship stayed in Saffia again for two weeks.]* *[By late in August, 1641, the Liedekerke mission with the rescued crew of the "Erasmus van Rotterdam" was ready to return to Patria. But one voyager stayed behind.]* 27th of August 1641: That same day Jacob Arissen has come aboard again from Maladia, leaving Lijsbeth Jans to stay with her father. *..................................* *The journal entry of the 27th of August 1641 was the last mention Matham made of Jan Janszoon or his family. The "Gelderlandt" returned to the Netherlands on the 12 of November, 1641.* *We have the entire journal of Adriaen Matham's voyage translated. If anyone would like to see the rest, just contact one of us.* *Have fun with this* *Cor Snabel* *cor.snabel@gmail.com* *Liz J.* *iris.gates@gmail.com*

You will find some information about this at: http://www.rootsweb.com/~nymontgo/amsterdam/vanburen.html It mentions the sale of the house but not to whom it was sold. Sally Shreeve > In published genealogies of the Van Buren family, its stated that > Martin Cornelissen Van Buren(1638-1703) son of Cornelis Maessen > owned a house and barn in Bethlehem which he sold to Gijsbert > Cornelis[Van Der Bergh?] in 1662. > > Unfortunately, I'm not able to find the source of this transaction - > can anyone help? > > Terry HJ > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

John Denton 1727-1803 married first a Lydia by whom he had 5 children and then Elizabeth Peck Purdy a widow 1738-1803 by whom he had three children including Frances "Fanny" Denton 1775-1825 wife of Beriah Thomas 1771-1851. Does anyone know the parents of either Elizabeth Peck or Beriah Thomas. These families lived in or near Amenia, Dutchess Co NY and are buried in Smithfield Cem, Amenia I have some more details but nothing that could be considered source material beyond some dates. Any help would be much appreciated Agnes VWC

Cor you look younger with all that hair how is it going?Had 4 beautiful Dutch girls who were stranded stay in their motor home by the barn,delightful girls. ----- Original Message ----- From: "cor snabel" <cor.snabel@gmail.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 4:15 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Jansz. van Haerlem Hello Roland, Long time no see. That must have been a few years ago. On 5/23/07, Roland Elliott <rolandelliott@inreach.com> wrote: > > Cor do you have the Bill of Lading and or Passenger/Passage list? The "Gelderlandt" journey was a secret mission, so I already told you too much. LOL Nah seriously, I have a list of the released prisoners of the "Erasmus van Rotterdam": Regards Cor Journal of the Ambassy of the Lord Anthonis de Liedekerke sent Following are the names of the slaves who had sailed with the ship "Erasmus van Rotterdam" on 17th April 1638 in the service of the West-India Company, and after having been stranded, under the Santon Sidali from Jliego in Barbary had fallen into slavery, and now by the Lord Ambassador are freed. Chief merchant Jacob Adriaenss. Vander Wel, from Delft. Common merchant Crijn Alderss. Coninck, from Delft. Captain Ocker Willemss. Kruijfhooft, from Rotterdam. Navigating officer Pieter Pieterss. Princelandt, near Den Briel. Chief boatswain Leendert Francken Vander Horst, from Rotterdam. Carpenter Cornelis Jacobss., from Rotterdam. Assistant Hans Jeuriaen Bierboom, from Amsterdam. Assistant Pieter Franss. Vander Wiel, from Delft. Cook Cornelis Pieterss., from Santvoort [Zandvoort]. Quartermaster Philips Gerritss., from Delft. Quartermaster Jan Barentse, from Rotterdam. Quartermaster Simon Janss., from Rotterdam. Boatswain Marten Hermanss, Vander Heij, from Rotterdam. Soldier Jan Korts. Vander Neurs, from Leijden [Leiden]. Captain's son Willem Ockerss. Kruijffhooft, from Rotterdam. Barber Abraham Fort, from Baiona. Soldier Simon Mulaert. Boatswain's hand Jacob Janss. from 's-Gravesande. Sailor Jacob Leendertse, from Den Briel. Dominee Pieter Havenss, from Rotterdam. Sailor Jan Aelbertse, from Haerlem. Sailor Cornelis Hermanss., from Rotterdam. Cooper Job Janss., from Rotterdam. Cooper's hand Adriaen Tomass., from Rotterdam. Provost Jan Janss., from Luijck [Liège, Flandres]. Sailor Dingheman Gijsbertss., from Brouwershaven. Boatswain Leenaert Wouterss. Gaerpenning, from Rotterdam. Hornblower Jan Frederickss., from Rotterdam. Cabin-hand Floris Theemissen Beddeman, from Rotterdam. Cabin-hand Paulus Janss., from Rotterdam. Sailor Laurens Jsackse, from Santvoort [Zandvoort]. Sailor Engelbrecht Willemss., from 's-Gravenhage. Sailor Cornelis Claess., from Durkerdam. [Durgerdam] Soldier Jacob Janss., from Rotterdam. Soldaet Jan Janss., from Leijden [Leiden]. Soldier Jan Pieterss., from Santefoeij. A boy Hendrick Jacobss., from Rotterdam. A boy Hendrick Joriss., from Rotterdam. A boy Dirck Lambertsen, from Rotterdam. Soldier Jsack Jasperss., from Middelburg. Sailor Dirck Dircksen, from Amsterdam. Corporal of the rifle Huijber Pieterss., from Gorcum. Sailor Jan Corneliss. Post, from Rotterdam. Sailor Lambert Janss., from Leerdam. Soldier Jacob Janss. Van de Velde, from Rotterdam. The following men died in Jliego: Sailmaker Jan Jan Pieterss. Peijesant, from Delft. Soldier Pieter Janss., from Hoesum. Boatswain Jacob Janss. Lerenbaert, from Gendt [Gand, Flandres]. Soldier Jan, from Bommel. Boatswain Marten Dirckse, from Tessel. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cor do you have the Bill of Lading and or Passenger/Passage list? ----- Original Message ----- From: "cor snabel" <cor.snabel@gmail.com> To: <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 23, 2007 2:51 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Jan Jansz. van Haerlem Dear friends, After becoming interested in Jan Janszoon of Haerlem and his possible descendents in New Amsterdam, we looked around for more information that could be found about him and his family. We found the journal of Adriaen Matham, an artist from Haarlem, Noord Holland, who in 1640 was sent along on a diplomatic mission to Morocco, where he met Jan Janszoon in person. So in hopes of obtaining more info about Jan Janszoon's descendents, we decided to go ahead and translate Matham's entire travel log from seventeenth-century Dutch into English. Some background: Jan Janszoon, it may be remembered, was one of the most notorious of the Dutch renegades, who became a pirate in the early part of the seventeenth century, living the latter half of his life as a pirate admiral in Sallee, Morocco. Janszoon had at least two sons who were thought to have come to New Amsterdam. Lijsbeth Jans was one of the daughters of this notorious renegade, and his Dutch wife Soutgen Caves. Another daughter of Jansoon's had been married to Jacob Arissen, who was also on board the "Gelderlandt". On the 1st of September 1640, the ship "Gelderlandt" sailed from Texel on a diplomatic mission to the King of Morocco. On board were the Dutch Ambassador Anthonie de Liedekerke, Lijsbeth Jans with her brother-in-law Jacob Arissen, and the painter Adriaen Matham. The 1640-41 diplomatic mission to Morocco was made in order to renew the Dutch alliance with Morocco, and to effect the release of some fifty men who had been employed aboard the ship "Erasmus van Rotterdam." This ship had stranded* *off the coast of Morocco near Agadir in May 1638, and her crew had been enslaved there. By 1640, funds had been raised for ransom, and Admiral Liedekerke was delegated to negotiate their ransom and release. Jan Janszoon assisted with this dual mission by making certain arrangements with his Moroccan associates for Liedekerke. Adriaen Matham, along with another artist, were sent along on this mission, possibly to make observations about the geography of countries they passed, and to record observations about the persons with whom they came in contact. Adriaen Matham wrote a detailed journal during their journey, and along the way he made some thirty paintings and drawings of various flora and fauna, places and persons he observed. His journal starts like a ships log with wind directions and course indications, but once arrived in Barbary his reports become more detailed and interesting. Matham's journal gives a rare and interesting look at what kind of events were taking place on the other side of the Atlantic as New Amsterdam was in its early days of development. After finishing the translation of Matham's journal, we found no there was no mention of any sons of Jan Janszoon in it. But since Matham does describe Jan Janszoon himself, and recounts the reunion with his daughter, Lysbet Jans, and because Matham also gives the name of another of Janszoon's sons-in-law, we thought certain extracts from Matham's journal would be of interest here. We hope after reading this, that others may be able to make further connections with this family. But even if not, we think these extracts from Adriaen Matham's journal will be enjoyable. Here are some of Matham's observations. Our added notes are in [brackets]. *Extracted entries from Adriaen Matham's Journal 1640-1641* *[On the 28th of December 1640, the "Gelderlandt" was at Saffia, a harbor in Morocco on the Atlantic coast. Matham's entry for that day contains the first reference to Jan Janszoon]* On the 28th ditto. Our small sloop went ashore and returned with our people who had stayed for two days in Saffia. Along with them came a barque with Moors, bringing many kinds of provisions. ...The skipper of the barque also brought two letters from Jan Janss. van Haerlem living in Muladie [Oualidia], six or seven miles from Saffia. One letter was written to the Lord Ambassador, the other to his daughter, who had come along with us on this journey to visit her father, whereof he was informed by special messenger from Saffia. He invited her very heartily to join him, sending along some refreshments as a gift. But being informed of the dangers of travelling inland and particularly for females, she did not dare to do so. But it was agreed that her brother-in-law, who also had come along with us in our ship, would go to Muladie with the six or eight Moors whom his father-in-law had selected from his servants and sent from Muladie to Saffia as a convoy to escort them there. This occurred that same day. On the 30th ditto. Jacob Ariss. came back on board with his father-in-law Jan Janss. van Haerlem (this Jan Janss. van Haerlem accompanied by 18 servants went part of the way from Maladie to meet his son-in-law) who sat comfortably in the barque on a rug and satin pillows, his servants around him. He was then led into the cabin of the Lord Ambassador, where his daughter was. When the father saw his daughter they both started to cry and after speaking with her for a while he took his leave of the Lord Ambassador, promising him that he would provide fresh water for us the next day, and that if the weather was good he and his daughter would visit us again on board. We had our doubts if this would happen, but only time will give that outcome. On the 31st ditto. Our lieutenant went with both the steersmen and some deckhands and empty barrels in a boat to the shore to get some water. While the sloop stayed away from the breakers, the Moors got three of our men with the barrels ashore, but once filled the Moors did not want to let them go until Jan Janss. van Haerlem, who still was in Saffia with his daughter and the brother-in-law, had paid nineteen pieces of eight [19 coins of 8 reaal] on behalf of the Lord Ambassador. ...Our men reported that they had noticed that Lijsbeth Jans has had her fill of people and the country and consequently had wished to be on board again, but she would leave the next day with her father to Maladia, because his business would not allow him to stay away much longer. On the 1st January A° 1641. Our crew went ashore with the small and the large sloop to get the water that had been left there. This was done, and Jan Janss. van Haerlem had already left with his daughter for Maladia. On the 9th February. Our boat with our people went ashore and were informed there that the Lord Ambassador with his entourage was invited to come from his ship on the 11th; also that His Majesty of Morocco had charged the Governor of Saffia that he at time of our journey will provide for all of our needs. On the 11th ditto. The Lord ambassador [[Liedekerke]] left the ship on a barque of the Moors with all his people and baggage, and was welcomed ashore according to the local customs with flutes, drums and a great number of musketeers, accompanied by the Governor of the town and by the forementioned Jan Janss. van Haerlem. There was a valuable horse led in for the Lord Ambassador. ...From Saffia I made a three or four day trip to the castle of Maladia, the governor of which is Jan Janss, van Haerlem. By him I was entertained and welcomed very cordially. And I have drawn for him the castle with the entrance of the harbor, and the river, where the ships lie at anchor. *[After the meeting with the King of Morocco, the entourage returned to the "Gelderlandt" and they set sail for St. Crux. There the Ambassador paid the ransom for the 45 crew members of the ship "Erasmus van Rotterdam", that had stranded near Agadir in May 1638. On their way home, the ship stayed in Saffia again for two weeks.]* *[By late in August, 1641, the Liedekerke mission with the rescued crew of the "Erasmus van Rotterdam" was ready to return to Patria. But one voyager stayed behind.]* 27th of August 1641: That same day Jacob Arissen has come aboard again from Maladia, leaving Lijsbeth Jans to stay with her father. *..................................* *The journal entry of the 27th of August 1641 was the last mention Matham made of Jan Janszoon or his family. The "Gelderlandt" returned to the Netherlands on the 12 of November, 1641.* *We have the entire journal of Adriaen Matham's voyage translated. If anyone would like to see the rest, just contact one of us.* *Have fun with this* *Cor Snabel* *cor.snabel@gmail.com* *Liz J.* *iris.gates@gmail.com* ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all, The tree below should help clarify family relationships shown in the "Varlet Aantekening" which was posted here last Monday, May 21. I have one question for now. In Pieter Varlet's entry for November 1624, can someone clarify who is his "brother" Johannes Jelles, born ca 1588. The entry again: "Johannes Jelles, my brother, died in the year 1624, the 9th of November, in Amsterdam; his age was 36 years." I would appreciate input from list members about any part of this family. Best wishes, Liz J Children and Grandchildren of Nicolaes Verlet and Francina Jacobsdochter: Children of Caspar, Catrijna, Daniel and Pieter Varlet Nicolaes Varlet ca 1572-1605 m. 1590 Francina Jacobsdochter 1559-1612 1. Caspar Varlet ca 1593-1662 m. 1615 Judith Tentenier +/1662 1.1. Abraham Varlet 1616-1667 (b. Utrecht) 1.2. Guilliam (William) Varlet ca 1618-/1659 (b. Utrecht) 1.3. Francina Varlet ca 1620 (b. Utrecht) 1.4. Nicolaes Varlet ca 1622-ca 1675 (b. Utrecht) 1.5. Ann Varlet ca 1624-ca 1670 (b. Utrecht) 1.6. Jannetje Varlet ca 1625 (b. Utrecht) 1.7. Maria Varlet 1627 (b. Amsterdam) 1.8. Judith Varlet 1629 (b. Amsterdam) 1.9. Catrijna Varlet 1631-/1636 (b. Amsterdam) 1.10. Jacus Varlet 1633 (b. Amsterdam) 1.11. Catrijna Varlet 1636 (b. Amsterdam) 1.12. Sara Varlet 1639 (b. Amsterdam) 2. Catrijna Varlet ca 1595-1652 m. 1618 Severijn Hack +/1656 2.1. Dr. Joris Hack 1620-1665 (b. Cologne) 2.2. Daniel Hack 1622 (b. Amsterdam) 2.3. Anneken Hack 1623 (b. Amsterdam) 2.4. Francois Hack 1625 (b. Amsterdam) 2.5. Peter Hack 1627 (b. Amsterdam) 2.6. Francijna Hack 1630 (b. Amsterdam) 2.7. Anna Hack 1630 (b. Amsterdam) 2.8. Severijn Hack 1633-1661 (b. Amsterdam) 3. Daniel Varlet 1597-1642 m. 1623 Sara Davidsdr. Stafmakers 1599-1664 3.1. David Varlet 1623 (b. Amsterdam) 3.2. Daniel Varlet 1625 (b. Amsterdam) 3.3. Catrijna Varlet 1626 (b. Amsterdam) 3.4. Francijna Varlet 1627 (b. Amsterdam) 3.5. Sara Varlet 1629 (b. Amsterdam) 3.6. Jonatan Varlet 1630 (b. Amsterdam) 3.7. Cornelia Varlet 1631 (b. Amsterdam) 3.8. Cattrijn Varlet 1632 (b. Amsterdam) 3.9. Susanna Varlet 1634 (b. Amsterdam) 3.10. Anneken Varlet 1636-1723 (b. Amsterdam) 3.11. Abraham Varlet 1636 (b. Amsterdam) 3.12. Fransoijs Varlet 1637 (b. Amsterdam) 3.13. Nicolaes Varlet 1639 (b. Amsterdam) 3.14. Francoijs Varlet 1640 (b. Amsterdam) 4. Pieter Varlet 1598-1661 m. 1626 Machtelt Jansdr. van Bree 1604-1643 4.1. Johannis Varlet 1627-1633 (b. Amsterdam) 4.2. Janneke Varlet 1629 (b. Amsterdam) 4.3. Francina Varlet 1631 (b. Amsterdam) 4.4. Sara Varlet 1633-1681 (b. Amsterdam) 4.5. Joannes Varlet 1634-1640 (b. Amsterdam) 4.6. Pieter Varlet 1636 (b. Amsterdam) 4.7. Cornelis Varlet 1639-1721 (b. Amsterdam) 4.8. zoontje (infant son) Varlet 1641-1641 (b. Amsterdam) 4.9. Machteltgen Varlet 1643-1643 (b. Amsterdam)

NICE WORK LIZ AND COR!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! In a message dated 5/21/2007 7:10:54 PM Mountain Daylight Time, iris.gates@gmail.com writes: Dear friends, As a result of a little sleuthing in various archives in the Netherlands, a document has recently been found which will shed some light upon a family which has been discussed at various times on D-Col. In the archives of the province Drente (Drents Archief) we found a copy of a booklet called "Aantekening der Familie der Varletten: 1627." [Drents Archief Access nr. 0604 inv.nr. 14.] This contains genealogical notes written down by several successive members of the Varlet family, and their descendents, the families Hummel and Fledderus. These entries contain birth, marriage, death and burial dates for the family of Peter Varlet and for his parents. This had been a handwritten document, passed down in the family, which was loaned some years ago to the Provincial Archive at Drenthe, for the purpose of transcribing it. The original was returned to the family and a copy was deposited in the Provincial archives at Drenthe. Recently, we retranscribed the first several pages of this document, and translated it into English. This should clarify many of the recent questions that members have recently had about the Varlet family. The first 32 entries of the Varlet record were written by Pieter Varlet (1598-1661), a WIC official, the brother of Caspar Varlet who lived at Ft. de Goede Hoop in what is now the state of Connecticut. We hope you will enjoy this. Best wishes, Cor Snabel & Liz J cor.snabel@wxs.nl iris.gates@gmail.com Notes of the Family of the Varletten Amsterdam 1627 Nicolaas Varlet & Francina Jacobs, my father and mother, were married in the year 1590, the 12th of January in Cologne. Pieter Varlet was born in the year 1598, the 18th of August at 6 o'clock in the evening, in Cologne. His sponsors were: Jacob Jacobs and Pieter Cangon. Jan Lenartzen van Bree and Grietjen Claasen, my housewife's father and mother, were married in the year 1600, eight days after Easter, in Utrecht. [30 May 1626 OS / 9 June 1626 NS] Machteltje Jans van Bree, my housewife, was born in the year 1604, at 11 o'clock on Sunday the 22nd of January, in Utrecht. Nicolaas Varlet, my father, died in the year 1605, at two o'clock at night on the 18th of December in Cologne, and was buried at the Geusenkerkhof, outside [Cologne], in our own grave. Francina Jacobs, my mother, died in the year 1612, at 6 o'clock in the evening of Friday the 19th of October in Weesel, and was also buried there in our own grave; her age was 53 years. Johannes Jelles, my brother, died in the year 1624, the 9th of November, in Amsterdam; his age was 36 years. Jan Lenartzen van Bree, my housewife's father, died in the year 1626, at 4 o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday the 30th of May, old style, and was also buried there. Grietjen Clasen, my housewife's mother, died in the year 1626, at eleven in the forenoon on Monday, the 4th of July, in Utrecht, [and was buried] with her husband in the St. Nicolaaskerk, in our own grave. Pieter Varlet and Macheltje Jans van Bree were married in the year 1626, on the 21st of November, in the new style the 1st of December. Lenart Lenartzen van Bree, our dear father, died in the year 1626, at twelve on Whitsun night, the 23rd of May, in Hoorn, and was buried there in the Vrouwekerk. Johannes Varlet was born in the year 1627, at three in the afternoon on Sunday, the 17th of October, in Amsterdam. His sponsors were: Herman Gysberts Yzerman and he presented the child two silver porridgers, also Neeltjen Lenarts van Bree, our auntie, and she has presented the child a silver rattle with a chain in it. Janneken Varlet was born in the year of our Lord and Saviour J.C. 1629, at 11 o'clock in the evening, the last of May, in Amsterdam. Her sponsors were Herman Gysberts Yzerman, he has presented her a silver key-chain, weighting exactly 24 lood [note]; the other sponsor was M. Catrina Varlet and she has given her a silver goblet with a lid on it. [one lood = half an ounce] Janneke Jans van Bree is resting in the Lord in the year of our Lord and Saviour J.C. 1629, at 9 o'clock in the evening on the 14th of June, sound of mind. May the Lord God grant her a joyful resurrection. Francina Varlet, our daughter, was born in the year of our Lord J.C. 1631, at 3 o'clock in the morning on Friday the 14th of March, in Amsterdam. Her sponsors were: Jacob Dieriks or Tjerks Houtkoper and he has presented her as a baptism gift a Koningsdaalder [King's Thaler], one and a half Rijksdaalder with a crown imprinted on it, and a Ducat which was minted by the King of Bohemia or Paltz. Her other sponsor was Judict Varlet. Sara Varlet, our daughter, was born in the year 1633, at 5 o'clock in the morning on Sunday the 2nd of January in Amsterdam, and also on a Sunday the 30th ditto was baptized in the Oude Kerk. Her sponsors are Daniel Vermout and [he] has presented her a silver plate, also aunt Sara Varlet and [she] has presented her a silver mustard-pot with a silver spoon in it, given in the name of the Holy Lord. Joh. Varlet, my little son, is resting in the Lord in the year 1633 at 7 o'clock in the evening on Wednesday the 26th of January, after he had suffered for three months from a fatal disease with high fever. He was buried in the Nieuwe Zijds Kapel in front of the pulpit on the 29th of January. Johannes Varlet, our second son, was born in the year 1634 at half past eleven in the evening on Wednesday, the 6th of September in Amsterdam, and was baptized on Kermis [Fair] Tuesday the 26th ditto in the Nieuwe Kerk. His sponsors were: Jasper van der Veen, presenting as a baptism gift a silver plate, and Christina a silver cup, cousin Hans Cobritze [gave] a silver porridger with 'Hansje' engraved in the bottom, because he was named after his name. Pieter Varlet, my little son, was born in the year of our Lord 1636 at 8 o'clock in the morning on Thursday the 2nd of October in Amsterdam, and was baptized in de Oude Kerk on Sunday the 12th ditto. His sponsors were: Daniel Rusland and Catarina Statsmacker. Daniel Rusland presented him a golden [schroeft] as a baptism gift. [schroeft = unknown word] Neeltjen Lenards van Bree, our dear auntie, died at 9 o'clock on Friday evening the 16th of January 1637, and was buried in the Heiligesteegskerk on Tuesday 20 January 1637. Note: Francyntjen Varlet will receive after our death or when she comes to marriage two little silver mugs coming from her grandmother Francina Jacobs. Abraham Lambertzen van Bree, my housewife's cousin, died at one thirty in the afternoon on Easter, the 4th of April, and was buried on Thursday the 8th ditto in the Heilesteegskerk in Amsterdam [year not mentioned]. Cornelis Varlet was born in the year 1639 at seven in the morning on Monday the 10th of January in Amsterdam, and on the 3th of February was baptized in the Oude Kerk by dominee Badini. His sponsors were: the Lord Cornelis van Wykersloot, Bewindhebber of the East India Company, [who] presented him as a baptism gift a silver porridger. Also as sponsor was the Lord Admiral Cornelis Cornelissen Jol, alias Houtebeen, who presented him as a baptism gift a silver porridger, and also as a sponsor the housewife of the Lord Admiral Jan Corn. Lighthout [who] presented a silver goblet. Also sponsor Maria Haak, who gave nothing to remember this. [see note below] Hansje, our second son, died in the year 1640 at eleven o'clock on Tuesday morning the 14th of February. [see note] He suffered from chickenpox for 16 days before he was relieved, and is buried in the Oude Kerk on the 17th ditto, in a new grave, which I had bought, and is the first to be buried in it. May God the Lord grant him a joyful and holy resurrection. [note: " eleven o'clock" might be wrong. It was transcribed as "1/2 uur" or half uur, but was possibly 'elf uur' meaning eleven o'clock] 1641 ADi. On the 2nd of June my wife was delivered of a dead child after she from the 30th of May was in heavy labor and could not deliver. [It] was finally resolved that the dead child must be removed from her by Mr. Pieter with instruments. It was a little son, whom on the 5th of June we buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1642. Daniel Varlet, our brother, is resting in the Lord in Dunkirk at the home of Squire Franciscus Hiel, at half past one in the night between the 1st and the 2nd January, of sound mind, in the presence of cousin Jaques J. van Keulen, and is buried on the 3rd ditto outside Dunkirk at the Geuzenkerkhof. God grant him a holy resurrection. 1643. Machteltje Varlet, our youngest daughter, was born at 10 o'clock in the evening on Tuesday the 14th of July in Amsterdam, and was baptized the 26th of July in the Zuider Kerk by dominee Jacobi Laurentius. Her sponsors were Do. Hettelurus Daniel Vogelaar and Wyntje Vink, widow of Johan Roberts Salluy, living in Rotterdam. The forementioned Roberts has presented her as a baptism gift a silver porridger. 1643. Machteldtje Varlet, my housewife, died on Tuesday evening the 21st of July, on the 8th day of her lying-in, in sound mind, after suffering from high fever for 5 days. She was buried on Friday the 24th of July in the Oude Kerk in our own grave, at the age of 39 years, attained 22 January 1643. 1643. Machteldje Varlet, my youngest daughter, died at 7 o'clock in the morning on the 26th of December, the 2nd Christmas day, at the age of 23 weeks and 4 days, and was buried the 29th ditto in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. Jannechje Jans, our aunt, died around 11 o'clock on Saturday morning, the 16th of November, sound of mind, and on Tuesday the 19th ditto she was buried in the Zuider Kerk. God grant her a holy resurrection. Cataarina Varlet, widow of cousin Hak, my dear sister, is resting in the Lord around 1 o'clock in the night between Saturday and Whit Sunday, the 18th of May 1652, after suffering from fever for 16 [days] and she was buried on the 22nd of May following in the Heiligesteegskerk next to her husband, in the grave of Jaques Hak. [note: Jacques Hack, owner of the grave, was Catrina's brother-in-law] Cousin Hans Cobrite died around 4 o'clock in the afternoon on the 16th of December 1656, sound of mind, and was buried on the 21st ditto in the Augustyner Kerk in Dordrecht. May God grant him a joyful resurrection. [The entries above were written by Pieter Varlet (1598-1661). From here on one of his daughters, probably Francijna, continued making the entries until about 1716.] 1661. Pieter Varlet, our father, died on 29th October Saturday at midnight, sound of mind, after he lay for 12 days with high fevers of 24 and 26 and even 28 hours duration, and was buried the following 3rd of November in the Oude Kerk next to his housewife in our own grave, at the age of 63 years, two months and 11 days. 1664. Sara Stafmaker, widow of Daniel Varlet, died around 8 o'clock on Monday morning, the 21th of July 1664 in Hoorn, after she had been sick for thirty-three weeks following a severe accident, and was buried the next Thursday the 24th ditto in the Oude Kerk. Cornelis Varlet, our youngest brother, was married to Anna Varlet, our niece, daughter of uncle Daniel Varlet, on the 28th of April 1665 in Amsterdam, by dominee Harmannus Langelius. 1666. On the 17th May the housewife of our brother Corn. Varlet was in labor with a dead child. It was a girl, who was buried on the 19th ditto in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1667. Abraham Varlet, our cousin, died on the 6th of February at Monnikendam and was buried there on the 10th ditto. 1667. On the 18th of September the housewife of our brother Corn. Varlet gave birth to 2 children on Kermis [Fair] Day, a son and a daughter, who were baptized on the same day in the Nieuwe Zijds Kapel by dominee Joh. Selvius: a son named Pieter, the daughter named Sara. The sponsors of Pieter were: Pieter Varlet and Francina Varlet. P.V. has presented him as a baptism gift 2 silver saltshakers and a silver bell with chain. Francina Varlet has presented him a silver dish. Sara's sponsors were David Varlet and Sara Varlet, brother and sister. 1667. Sara Varlet, the little daughter of Mons. Corn. Varlet, died on 13 October, 25 days old, and on Monday the 17th ditto was buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. On the 18th of March the housewife of our brother Cornelis Varlet gave birth to a little son called Daniel Varlet and [he] was baptized in the 20th ditto in the Nieuwe Zijds Kapel by dominee Johan Salsius. His sponsors were: Daniel Varlet and Janneke Varlet. [He] died the 10th of July 1669 and on the 13th ditto was buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1671. On the 4th of October the housewife of our brother Cornelis Varlet gave birth to a young daughter called Sara, her sponsors were: Sara and Daniel Varlet. 1681. On the 13th of January our sister Sara Varlet died at the age of 48 years and 11 days, and and on the 18th ditto was buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave; also there were about 20 couples at her funeral. 1685. The 16th December my sister Janneke Varlet by accidentally falling had broken her right arm, and by the surgeons Joh. van Claveren and van Ottinga it was set and cured at once, although she was already 56 years old. 1700. Between the 29th and the 30th September old style our brother Corn.' son, Pieter Varlet Corn., died in Diever in the Land of Drenthe and is buried there on the 8th at the age of 33 years. [note: Pieter Corneliss. Varlet is meant] 1702. The 14th August 1701 Lucas Fledderus and Sara Varlet ware married at Dieveren. 1704. The 20th February our oldest sister Jannaken Varlet is resting in the Lord on a Wednesday at 8 o'clock in the morning, sound of mind at the age of 74 years, 9 months and 20 days, and was buried on the 26th ditto in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1705. On Witsunday, the 31st of May at 5 o'clock in the afternoon our niece Sara Varlet, daughter of Cornelis Varlet, gave birth to a son in Dieveren in the Land of Drenthe [who] on the 1st of June was baptized there, named Pieter Varlet; our niece was married to Lucas Fledderus. 1708. On the 1st of February the daughter of Cornelis Varlet, Sara Varlet, who married Lucas Fledderus in the Land of Drenthe, gave birth to a young daughter and there in Dieveren she was baptized the 5th ditto, named Anna Catrina. 1709. The 14th December Sara Varlet as above has again gave birth to a daughter and on the 15th ditto at Diever she was baptized, named Johanna Geertruid. On the 1st May Francina and Pieter Varlet moved to Dieverden, into the home of their brother Cornelis Varlet in 171? [The entries between 1661 and about 1716 were probably all written by Francijna Varlet (1631-1717). From here on her niece Sara Varlet (1671-1751) continues making notes] 1717. The 29th October Francina Varlet is resting in the Lord and was buried in Diever, at the age of 86 years and 7 1/2 months. Brothers of Sara Varlet: Caspar Varlet married to Judith .........., Abraham Varlet .......... and Nic. Varlet married to............... Nicolaas with Francina Jaquis, Daniel Varlet married to Sara Stafmaker; Jonathan Varlet married to Anna Wegtels; Francina Varlet married to Peter Geblom ? Pieter Varlet married to Machteldje van Bree; Francina Varlet and Pieter Varlet. On the 10th February uncle Pieter Varlet is resting in the Lord in his 82nd year, and was buried in the church of Diever in 1718. 1721. On the 8th December my father Cornelis Varlet [died] in his 83rd year, and was also buried in the church in Dieveren. 1722. On the 14 February my beloved husband Lucas Fledderus is resting in the Lord in his 66th year of age, and was buried in the church next to brother Pieter.23. O [From here the notes go on until 1891 but the name Varlet is not mentioned anymore. The entries are about the family Fledderus and Hummelen.] -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- Note about baptism of Cornelis Varlet on 3th February 1639: Admiral Cornelis Cornelisz. Jol, aka Houtebeen (1600-1641), was one of the most colorful Dutch sailors. He was born in Scheveningen, started as a fisherman and made it to Admiral of the West India Company. He was a very skilled navigator, known for his tremendous courage and his humane attitude towards prisoners of war. On 21 October of the same year (1639) he was leading a squadron in the battle of Duins, where the Dutch defeated the Spanish Armada. On 30th May 1640 he was send from Brasil to Africa where he conquered Luanda (Angola) and the island Sao Tome, where he died on 31th October 1641 of malaria. Admiral Jan Cornelisz. Lichthart (probably misread by the transcriber as Lighthout) and the above mentioned Cornelis Cornelisz. Jol were naval comrades in arms in several important battles. He was also an Admiral with the Dutch West India Company and achieved his reputation in the battles against the Duinkerkers and in Brasil. He died at the Rio Sao Francisco on 30th November 1646. ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Cornelis Claeszen Swits, son of Claes Cornelisz, died before 10 Nov 1655 "murdered by the Indians". Cornelis married Ariaentie Trommels, daughter of Cornelis TROMMELS and Appolonia and they had ten children. Did they have more than ten children? Son Isaac and daughter Apollonia married and left children. Did any of the other children leave descendants? Claes. born about 1640. He died 1663 [accidentally killed]. Apolonitje. baptized 17 Feb 1641 in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:11]. She died young. Jacob. baptized 5 Oct 1642 [twin] in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:14]. He died young. Isaac. baptized 5 Oct 1642 [twin] in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:14]. Isaac married Susanna Simons Groot and had eight children. He died 1701/1707 [WILL-NYHS 1:451]. Jacob. baptized 5 Feb 1645 in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:18]. Abraham. baptized 10 Mar 1647 in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:22]. Apollonia. baptized 25 Oct 1648 in New Amsterdam DRCh. [NYDC 2:25]. Apollonia married Jan Thomaszen Eckerson 8 Nov 1665 [banns] in New York DRCh. [NYDC 1:31]. They had twelve children. Cornelis. baptized 9 Jul 1651 in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:29]. Cornelis married Jannetje Tjercks DEWITT. He died 1734 in Rochester, NY. Per Riker, he left no children. Pieter. baptized 12 Oct 1653 in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:35]. Cornelia. baptized 31 Oct 1655 in New Amsterdam DRCh [NYDC 2:40]. Regards, Ethel Kay Konight ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Dear friends, As a result of a little sleuthing in various archives in the Netherlands, a document has recently been found which will shed some light upon a family which has been discussed at various times on D-Col. In the archives of the province Drente (Drents Archief) we found a copy of a booklet called "Aantekening der Familie der Varletten: 1627." [Drents Archief Access nr. 0604 inv.nr. 14.] This contains genealogical notes written down by several successive members of the Varlet family, and their descendents, the families Hummel and Fledderus. These entries contain birth, marriage, death and burial dates for the family of Peter Varlet and for his parents. This had been a handwritten document, passed down in the family, which was loaned some years ago to the Provincial Archive at Drenthe, for the purpose of transcribing it. The original was returned to the family and a copy was deposited in the Provincial archives at Drenthe. Recently, we retranscribed the first several pages of this document, and translated it into English. This should clarify many of the recent questions that members have recently had about the Varlet family. The first 32 entries of the Varlet record were written by Pieter Varlet (1598-1661), a WIC official, the brother of Caspar Varlet who lived at Ft. de Goede Hoop in what is now the state of Connecticut. We hope you will enjoy this. Best wishes, Cor Snabel & Liz J cor.snabel@wxs.nl iris.gates@gmail.com Notes of the Family of the Varletten Amsterdam 1627 Nicolaas Varlet & Francina Jacobs, my father and mother, were married in the year 1590, the 12th of January in Cologne. Pieter Varlet was born in the year 1598, the 18th of August at 6 o'clock in the evening, in Cologne. His sponsors were: Jacob Jacobs and Pieter Cangon. Jan Lenartzen van Bree and Grietjen Claasen, my housewife's father and mother, were married in the year 1600, eight days after Easter, in Utrecht. [30 May 1626 OS / 9 June 1626 NS] Machteltje Jans van Bree, my housewife, was born in the year 1604, at 11 o'clock on Sunday the 22nd of January, in Utrecht. Nicolaas Varlet, my father, died in the year 1605, at two o'clock at night on the 18th of December in Cologne, and was buried at the Geusenkerkhof, outside [Cologne], in our own grave. Francina Jacobs, my mother, died in the year 1612, at 6 o'clock in the evening of Friday the 19th of October in Weesel, and was also buried there in our own grave; her age was 53 years. Johannes Jelles, my brother, died in the year 1624, the 9th of November, in Amsterdam; his age was 36 years. Jan Lenartzen van Bree, my housewife's father, died in the year 1626, at 4 o'clock in the afternoon on Wednesday the 30th of May, old style, and was also buried there. Grietjen Clasen, my housewife's mother, died in the year 1626, at eleven in the forenoon on Monday, the 4th of July, in Utrecht, [and was buried] with her husband in the St. Nicolaaskerk, in our own grave. Pieter Varlet and Macheltje Jans van Bree were married in the year 1626, on the 21st of November, in the new style the 1st of December. Lenart Lenartzen van Bree, our dear father, died in the year 1626, at twelve on Whitsun night, the 23rd of May, in Hoorn, and was buried there in the Vrouwekerk. Johannes Varlet was born in the year 1627, at three in the afternoon on Sunday, the 17th of October, in Amsterdam. His sponsors were: Herman Gysberts Yzerman and he presented the child two silver porridgers, also Neeltjen Lenarts van Bree, our auntie, and she has presented the child a silver rattle with a chain in it. Janneken Varlet was born in the year of our Lord and Saviour J.C. 1629, at 11 o'clock in the evening, the last of May, in Amsterdam. Her sponsors were Herman Gysberts Yzerman, he has presented her a silver key-chain, weighting exactly 24 lood [note]; the other sponsor was M. Catrina Varlet and she has given her a silver goblet with a lid on it. [one lood = half an ounce] Janneke Jans van Bree is resting in the Lord in the year of our Lord and Saviour J.C. 1629, at 9 o'clock in the evening on the 14th of June, sound of mind. May the Lord God grant her a joyful resurrection. Francina Varlet, our daughter, was born in the year of our Lord J.C. 1631, at 3 o'clock in the morning on Friday the 14th of March, in Amsterdam. Her sponsors were: Jacob Dieriks or Tjerks Houtkoper and he has presented her as a baptism gift a Koningsdaalder [King's Thaler], one and a half Rijksdaalder with a crown imprinted on it, and a Ducat which was minted by the King of Bohemia or Paltz. Her other sponsor was Judict Varlet. Sara Varlet, our daughter, was born in the year 1633, at 5 o'clock in the morning on Sunday the 2nd of January in Amsterdam, and also on a Sunday the 30th ditto was baptized in the Oude Kerk. Her sponsors are Daniel Vermout and [he] has presented her a silver plate, also aunt Sara Varlet and [she] has presented her a silver mustard-pot with a silver spoon in it, given in the name of the Holy Lord. Joh. Varlet, my little son, is resting in the Lord in the year 1633 at 7 o'clock in the evening on Wednesday the 26th of January, after he had suffered for three months from a fatal disease with high fever. He was buried in the Nieuwe Zijds Kapel in front of the pulpit on the 29th of January. Johannes Varlet, our second son, was born in the year 1634 at half past eleven in the evening on Wednesday, the 6th of September in Amsterdam, and was baptized on Kermis [Fair] Tuesday the 26th ditto in the Nieuwe Kerk. His sponsors were: Jasper van der Veen, presenting as a baptism gift a silver plate, and Christina a silver cup, cousin Hans Cobritze [gave] a silver porridger with 'Hansje' engraved in the bottom, because he was named after his name. Pieter Varlet, my little son, was born in the year of our Lord 1636 at 8 o'clock in the morning on Thursday the 2nd of October in Amsterdam, and was baptized in de Oude Kerk on Sunday the 12th ditto. His sponsors were: Daniel Rusland and Catarina Statsmacker. Daniel Rusland presented him a golden [schroeft] as a baptism gift. [schroeft = unknown word] Neeltjen Lenards van Bree, our dear auntie, died at 9 o'clock on Friday evening the 16th of January 1637, and was buried in the Heiligesteegskerk on Tuesday 20 January 1637. Note: Francyntjen Varlet will receive after our death or when she comes to marriage two little silver mugs coming from her grandmother Francina Jacobs. Abraham Lambertzen van Bree, my housewife's cousin, died at one thirty in the afternoon on Easter, the 4th of April, and was buried on Thursday the 8th ditto in the Heilesteegskerk in Amsterdam [year not mentioned]. Cornelis Varlet was born in the year 1639 at seven in the morning on Monday the 10th of January in Amsterdam, and on the 3th of February was baptized in the Oude Kerk by dominee Badini. His sponsors were: the Lord Cornelis van Wykersloot, Bewindhebber of the East India Company, [who] presented him as a baptism gift a silver porridger. Also as sponsor was the Lord Admiral Cornelis Cornelissen Jol, alias Houtebeen, who presented him as a baptism gift a silver porridger, and also as a sponsor the housewife of the Lord Admiral Jan Corn. Lighthout [who] presented a silver goblet. Also sponsor Maria Haak, who gave nothing to remember this. [see note below] Hansje, our second son, died in the year 1640 at eleven o'clock on Tuesday morning the 14th of February. [see note] He suffered from chickenpox for 16 days before he was relieved, and is buried in the Oude Kerk on the 17th ditto, in a new grave, which I had bought, and is the first to be buried in it. May God the Lord grant him a joyful and holy resurrection. [note: " eleven o'clock" might be wrong. It was transcribed as "1/2 uur" or half uur, but was possibly 'elf uur' meaning eleven o'clock] 1641 ADi. On the 2nd of June my wife was delivered of a dead child after she from the 30th of May was in heavy labor and could not deliver. [It] was finally resolved that the dead child must be removed from her by Mr. Pieter with instruments. It was a little son, whom on the 5th of June we buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1642. Daniel Varlet, our brother, is resting in the Lord in Dunkirk at the home of Squire Franciscus Hiel, at half past one in the night between the 1st and the 2nd January, of sound mind, in the presence of cousin Jaques J. van Keulen, and is buried on the 3rd ditto outside Dunkirk at the Geuzenkerkhof. God grant him a holy resurrection. 1643. Machteltje Varlet, our youngest daughter, was born at 10 o'clock in the evening on Tuesday the 14th of July in Amsterdam, and was baptized the 26th of July in the Zuider Kerk by dominee Jacobi Laurentius. Her sponsors were Do. Hettelurus Daniel Vogelaar and Wyntje Vink, widow of Johan Roberts Salluy, living in Rotterdam. The forementioned Roberts has presented her as a baptism gift a silver porridger. 1643. Machteldtje Varlet, my housewife, died on Tuesday evening the 21st of July, on the 8th day of her lying-in, in sound mind, after suffering from high fever for 5 days. She was buried on Friday the 24th of July in the Oude Kerk in our own grave, at the age of 39 years, attained 22 January 1643. 1643. Machteldje Varlet, my youngest daughter, died at 7 o'clock in the morning on the 26th of December, the 2nd Christmas day, at the age of 23 weeks and 4 days, and was buried the 29th ditto in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. Jannechje Jans, our aunt, died around 11 o'clock on Saturday morning, the 16th of November, sound of mind, and on Tuesday the 19th ditto she was buried in the Zuider Kerk. God grant her a holy resurrection. Cataarina Varlet, widow of cousin Hak, my dear sister, is resting in the Lord around 1 o'clock in the night between Saturday and Whit Sunday, the 18th of May 1652, after suffering from fever for 16 [days] and she was buried on the 22nd of May following in the Heiligesteegskerk next to her husband, in the grave of Jaques Hak. [note: Jacques Hack, owner of the grave, was Catrina's brother-in-law] Cousin Hans Cobrite died around 4 o'clock in the afternoon on the 16th of December 1656, sound of mind, and was buried on the 21st ditto in the Augustyner Kerk in Dordrecht. May God grant him a joyful resurrection. [The entries above were written by Pieter Varlet (1598-1661). From here on one of his daughters, probably Francijna, continued making the entries until about 1716.] 1661. Pieter Varlet, our father, died on 29th October Saturday at midnight, sound of mind, after he lay for 12 days with high fevers of 24 and 26 and even 28 hours duration, and was buried the following 3rd of November in the Oude Kerk next to his housewife in our own grave, at the age of 63 years, two months and 11 days. 1664. Sara Stafmaker, widow of Daniel Varlet, died around 8 o'clock on Monday morning, the 21th of July 1664 in Hoorn, after she had been sick for thirty-three weeks following a severe accident, and was buried the next Thursday the 24th ditto in the Oude Kerk. Cornelis Varlet, our youngest brother, was married to Anna Varlet, our niece, daughter of uncle Daniel Varlet, on the 28th of April 1665 in Amsterdam, by dominee Harmannus Langelius. 1666. On the 17th May the housewife of our brother Corn. Varlet was in labor with a dead child. It was a girl, who was buried on the 19th ditto in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1667. Abraham Varlet, our cousin, died on the 6th of February at Monnikendam and was buried there on the 10th ditto. 1667. On the 18th of September the housewife of our brother Corn. Varlet gave birth to 2 children on Kermis [Fair] Day, a son and a daughter, who were baptized on the same day in the Nieuwe Zijds Kapel by dominee Joh. Selvius: a son named Pieter, the daughter named Sara. The sponsors of Pieter were: Pieter Varlet and Francina Varlet. P.V. has presented him as a baptism gift 2 silver saltshakers and a silver bell with chain. Francina Varlet has presented him a silver dish. Sara's sponsors were David Varlet and Sara Varlet, brother and sister. 1667. Sara Varlet, the little daughter of Mons. Corn. Varlet, died on 13 October, 25 days old, and on Monday the 17th ditto was buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. On the 18th of March the housewife of our brother Cornelis Varlet gave birth to a little son called Daniel Varlet and [he] was baptized in the 20th ditto in the Nieuwe Zijds Kapel by dominee Johan Salsius. His sponsors were: Daniel Varlet and Janneke Varlet. [He] died the 10th of July 1669 and on the 13th ditto was buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1671. On the 4th of October the housewife of our brother Cornelis Varlet gave birth to a young daughter called Sara, her sponsors were: Sara and Daniel Varlet. 1681. On the 13th of January our sister Sara Varlet died at the age of 48 years and 11 days, and and on the 18th ditto was buried in the Oude Kerk in our own grave; also there were about 20 couples at her funeral. 1685. The 16th December my sister Janneke Varlet by accidentally falling had broken her right arm, and by the surgeons Joh. van Claveren and van Ottinga it was set and cured at once, although she was already 56 years old. 1700. Between the 29th and the 30th September old style our brother Corn.' son, Pieter Varlet Corn., died in Diever in the Land of Drenthe and is buried there on the 8th at the age of 33 years. [note: Pieter Corneliss. Varlet is meant] 1702. The 14th August 1701 Lucas Fledderus and Sara Varlet ware married at Dieveren. 1704. The 20th February our oldest sister Jannaken Varlet is resting in the Lord on a Wednesday at 8 o'clock in the morning, sound of mind at the age of 74 years, 9 months and 20 days, and was buried on the 26th ditto in the Oude Kerk in our own grave. 1705. On Witsunday, the 31st of May at 5 o'clock in the afternoon our niece Sara Varlet, daughter of Cornelis Varlet, gave birth to a son in Dieveren in the Land of Drenthe [who] on the 1st of June was baptized there, named Pieter Varlet; our niece was married to Lucas Fledderus. 1708. On the 1st of February the daughter of Cornelis Varlet, Sara Varlet, who married Lucas Fledderus in the Land of Drenthe, gave birth to a young daughter and there in Dieveren she was baptized the 5th ditto, named Anna Catrina. 1709. The 14th December Sara Varlet as above has again gave birth to a daughter and on the 15th ditto at Diever she was baptized, named Johanna Geertruid. On the 1st May Francina and Pieter Varlet moved to Dieverden, into the home of their brother Cornelis Varlet in 171? [The entries between 1661 and about 1716 were probably all written by Francijna Varlet (1631-1717). From here on her niece Sara Varlet (1671-1751) continues making notes] 1717. The 29th October Francina Varlet is resting in the Lord and was buried in Diever, at the age of 86 years and 7 1/2 months. Brothers of Sara Varlet: Caspar Varlet married to Judith .........., Abraham Varlet .......... and Nic. Varlet married to............... Nicolaas with Francina Jaquis, Daniel Varlet married to Sara Stafmaker; Jonathan Varlet married to Anna Wegtels; Francina Varlet married to Peter Geblom ? Pieter Varlet married to Machteldje van Bree; Francina Varlet and Pieter Varlet. On the 10th February uncle Pieter Varlet is resting in the Lord in his 82nd year, and was buried in the church of Diever in 1718. 1721. On the 8th December my father Cornelis Varlet [died] in his 83rd year, and was also buried in the church in Dieveren. 1722. On the 14 February my beloved husband Lucas Fledderus is resting in the Lord in his 66th year of age, and was buried in the church next to brother Pieter.23. O [From here the notes go on until 1891 but the name Varlet is not mentioned anymore. The entries are about the family Fledderus and Hummelen.] -o-o-o-o-o-o-o-o- Note about baptism of Cornelis Varlet on 3th February 1639: Admiral Cornelis Cornelisz. Jol, aka Houtebeen (1600-1641), was one of the most colorful Dutch sailors. He was born in Scheveningen, started as a fisherman and made it to Admiral of the West India Company. He was a very skilled navigator, known for his tremendous courage and his humane attitude towards prisoners of war. On 21 October of the same year (1639) he was leading a squadron in the battle of Duins, where the Dutch defeated the Spanish Armada. On 30th May 1640 he was send from Brasil to Africa where he conquered Luanda (Angola) and the island Sao Tome, where he died on 31th October 1641 of malaria. Admiral Jan Cornelisz. Lichthart (probably misread by the transcriber as Lighthout) and the above mentioned Cornelis Cornelisz. Jol were naval comrades in arms in several important battles. He was also an Admiral with the Dutch West India Company and achieved his reputation in the battles against the Duinkerkers and in Brasil. He died at the Rio Sao Francisco on 30th November 1646.

I would suggest the DeWitt Historical Society library in Ithaca. Elsie Wilson Elsie H. Wilson 5620 Harris Cir. Fitchburg, WI 53575 (608) 835-6791 ehwilson@charter.net

Hi Judy, While not in the Finger Lakes, probably the best genealogical library in Central New York is the Onondaga Co. Public Library, Local History Collection, 447 South Salina St., Syracuse, New York 13202. I'm sure they would welcome a donation if you have a book available for this purpose. The New York State Historical Library in Cooperstown, NY has an excellent research library with quite a bit of information related to Dutch settlers and communities. Margaret Scheffler ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jacassidy22@aol.com> To: <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com>; <NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 1:29 PM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Finger Lakes New York Genealogical Society Libraries >I am looking for a good genealogical Library in the Fingerlakes region of > NY, in the Cayuga, Oswego, Steuban, Thompkins, Ontario, area of the > region to > donate one of Barbara's book to.. Anyone with any suggestions? > > Judy > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I am looking for a good genealogical Library in the Fingerlakes region of NY, in the Cayuga, Oswego, Steuban, Thompkins, Ontario, area of the region to donate one of Barbara's book to.. Anyone with any suggestions? Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Whenever I research my Caroline, New York families I find references to materials in the Ithaca College and Cornell libraries. Regards, Carol Dallas ____________________________________________________________________________________ It's here! Your new message! Get new email alerts with the free Yahoo! Toolbar. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/toolbar/features/mail/

Thanks, Pam, for checking them out for us all. Barbara ----- Original Message ---- From: Pamela J. Sears <pjsears@stratos.net> To: "Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com" <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, May 19, 2007 11:59:07 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Which Abraham LOTT? Barbara and Liz, Liz wrote: > I found the following and am wondering just which Abraham LOTT was > the offender here. > > From the "Minutes of the Commissioners for Detecting and Defeating Conspiracies > in the State of New York", Albany County Sessions, 1778-1781, > edited by Victor Hugo Patsits, State Historian, Volume I:1778-1779, > p.125: "Received a Letter from Major Goes informing that he sent > to us under Guard Abraham Lot and Charles Simmon who were > concerned in the Robbery at Van Ness's at Kinderhook -- <snip> > To which Barbara replied: > Abraham Lott (1722-1794) is the right age. One of his three wives > was Maria Van Alstyne, of a Kinderhook family. I don't know the > Dutch form of Maria, but I think this one is definitely worth > checking further as a possibility. My sources for this person: > <snip> I don't think this Abraham P. Lot, nor his cousin Abraham Lot (his wife was Geertruyd Coeymans), both living in New York City, were candidates to have snuck off to Kinderhook to commit robbery. From "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips; pub. by Edwards Bros., Inc., Ann Arbor. Michigan 1942 Page 29 Abraham Lott (wife was Geertruyd Coeymans) He commenced a mercantile business in the city of New York which he carried on for many years. He occasionally officiated as Clerk of the Colonial Assembly, and was subsequently appointed Treasurer of the Colony of New York, Dec. 12, 1767, which office he held until the year 1776. Both Abraham and Abraham P. Lott, were April 13,1784, members of the Chamber of Commerce, when it was incorporated by the New York Legislature, after the British evacuation. (n13) Page 30 Abraham P. Lott (married Cornelia Rapalje, Jannetje Goelet, Maria Van Alstyne) Abraham P. Lott and Mary his wife convey to Isaac Roosevelt; in 1775, he was appointed Colonel of the 3rd N.Y. City Regt. (Mil. Ret); Delegate to the 3rd & 4th Provincial Congresses, Member of Assembly 1777 thru 1783. In 1783, he joined in an address to Gov. Clinton and Geo. Washington; 1786, Abraham P. Lott, Esq., Alderman, Maiden Lane; Member of the Gen. Soc. Mechanics & Tradesmen; May 3, 1790, Abraham P. Lott, conveys land to Rev. Isaac Blauvelt, of Fishkill, "son-in-law" property which was "in trust" to Abm P. Lott. Mary Van Alstyne was the daughter of Mattheus Van Alstyne (bpt Albany), who was another prominent merchant of New York City, and she was baptized in the New York Reformed Dutch Church. Yes, she had many cousins in Kinderhook, but they were not closely associated. I do not know which Abraham Lott robbed the Van Ness's in Kinderhook, and the Van Ness surname is not listed in the book by Mr. Phillips. Regards, Pam Sears ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi to all, Abraham Lott, the last Treasurer of the Colony, according to Mr. Phillips (p 29), died intestate, and Letters of Administration were granted to his widow on 17 Apr 1801. So, he wasn't executed in 1778. "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips; pub. by Edwards Bros., Inc., Ann Arbor. Michigan 1942 46. ABRAHAM LOTT ^4 (Abraham ^3, Engelbert ^2, Peter, ^1) son of Abraham and Catherine --(Hegeman) Lott, born about 1714; died intestate, Adm to wife, April 17, 1801; married GERTRUDE COEYMAN, bapt. May 11, 1726, daughter of Andries and Geertruy (Staats) Coejeman, Coeyman, of Somerset Co., N.J. He commenced a mercantile business in the city of New York which he carried on for many years. He occasionally officiated as Clerk of the Colonial Assembly, and was subsequently appointed Treasurer of the Colony of New York, Dec. 12, 1767, which office he held until the year 1776. Both Abraham and Abraham P. Lott, were April 13,1784, members of the Chamber of Commerce, when it was incorporated by the New York Legislature, after the British evacuation. Regards, Pam Pam, Barbara and others... Thank you for your info and insights! I just received this from Thomas Gull: > Hi, Liz. I'm watching the Dutch Colonies digests so I saw your > message about the Abraham Lott involved in a robbery at Van Ness's in > Kinderhook. I think the following indicates the two robbers were > executed, though it doesn't specifically mention their names. From > context, it looks like the right pair, though. That would mean this > isn't our Abraham, of course. / Tom > > > http://www.americanrevolution.org/t1778.html > > AMERICANREVOLUTION.ORG > > MILITARY JOURNAL - 1778 > > May 16th.-In various parts of this state [Tom: New York] the > inhabitants are constantly infested with a banditti of tories and > other villains, following the practice of robbing and plundering, > stealing horses and cattle, and often committing murder on those who > oppose them; and even on innocent persons. A number of these vile > wretches have been apprehended and condemned; two of them were > executed yesterday. They had been convicted of robbing the house of > Mr. Van Ness, whose son, being a captain in our militia, was taken by > them and cruelly murdered. The criminals were conducted to the > gallows, by a guard of soldiers, and were attended by a prodigious > number of spectators. They manifested, at the gallows, the most > agonizing horrors. One of them held in his band a Bible till the > halter deprived him of the power of holding it. Had this sacred volume > been his companion in early life, it might have been the means of > averting this awful and untimely death. Peggie, another LOTT researcher sent this thought: >I believe this refers to Abraham Lott the last Treasurer of the COLONY of >NY. At the end of the Revolution there were funds that had been collected >and not yet accounted for in his accounts. At the time he was a very ill >man and many of his papers had been destroyed during the occupation of Long >Island. If my memory serves me, I think Mr Miller was doing business with Mr >Lott and they were probably trying to recover debts from Van Ness (a distant >relative of Lott's)that were to be paid and weren't. > The plot thickens?!? Liz

Barbara and Liz, Liz wrote: > I found the following and am wondering just which Abraham LOTT was > the offender here. > > From the "Minutes of the Commissioners for Detecting and Defeating Conspiracies > in the State of New York", Albany County Sessions, 1778-1781, > edited by Victor Hugo Patsits, State Historian, Volume I:1778-1779, > p.125: "Received a Letter from Major Goes informing that he sent > to us under Guard Abraham Lot and Charles Simmon who were > concerned in the Robbery at Van Ness's at Kinderhook -- <snip> > To which Barbara replied: > Abraham Lott (1722-1794) is the right age. One of his three wives > was Maria Van Alstyne, of a Kinderhook family. I don't know the > Dutch form of Maria, but I think this one is definitely worth > checking further as a possibility. My sources for this person: > <snip> I don't think this Abraham P. Lot, nor his cousin Abraham Lot (his wife was Geertruyd Coeymans), both living in New York City, were candidates to have snuck off to Kinderhook to commit robbery. From "The Lott Family in America" by A. V. Phillips; pub. by Edwards Bros., Inc., Ann Arbor. Michigan 1942 Page 29 Abraham Lott (wife was Geertruyd Coeymans) He commenced a mercantile business in the city of New York which he carried on for many years. He occasionally officiated as Clerk of the Colonial Assembly, and was subsequently appointed Treasurer of the Colony of New York, Dec. 12, 1767, which office he held until the year 1776. Both Abraham and Abraham P. Lott, were April 13,1784, members of the Chamber of Commerce, when it was incorporated by the New York Legislature, after the British evacuation. (n13) Page 30 Abraham P. Lott (married Cornelia Rapalje, Jannetje Goelet, Maria Van Alstyne) Abraham P. Lott and Mary his wife convey to Isaac Roosevelt; in 1775, he was appointed Colonel of the 3rd N.Y. City Regt. (Mil. Ret); Delegate to the 3rd & 4th Provincial Congresses, Member of Assembly 1777 thru 1783. In 1783, he joined in an address to Gov. Clinton and Geo. Washington; 1786, Abraham P. Lott, Esq., Alderman, Maiden Lane; Member of the Gen. Soc. Mechanics & Tradesmen; May 3, 1790, Abraham P. Lott, conveys land to Rev. Isaac Blauvelt, of Fishkill, "son-in-law" property which was "in trust" to Abm P. Lott. Mary Van Alstyne was the daughter of Mattheus Van Alstyne (bpt Albany), who was another prominent merchant of New York City, and she was baptized in the New York Reformed Dutch Church. Yes, she had many cousins in Kinderhook, but they were not closely associated. I do not know which Abraham Lott robbed the Van Ness's in Kinderhook, and the Van Ness surname is not listed in the book by Mr. Phillips. Regards, Pam Sears

Since I did not work on this line, I am afraid that you will have to read the book, I am not knowledgable enough on this line to be able to discuss this. Wish I could, but this was Barbara's work. Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.