Hi Doug & Barbara, Doug wrote: > Hi Barbara, > Did you see a gravestone for Roeloff SWARTWOUT? > Thanks, > Doug Roeloff Swartwout was a patentee of Hurley, Ulster County, New York, and it is highly unlikely that he was buried at Fishkill, Dutchess, New York, located on the opposite side of Hudson's River. Roeloff Swartwout died before 14 May 1715, the date his will was presented for probate [see Anjou, Gustave, Ulster County, N.Y. probate records in the office of the surrogate, and in the county clerk's office at Kingston, N.Y. New York: G. Anjou, 1906, Vol. i, pp 91-92; Book of Deeds, Liber II (BB) Marked 1710]. Roeloff Swartwout's grandson, Jacobus Swartwout, removed to Dutchess County circa 1723, and is buried at Fishkill. Van Voorhis, E. W. Tombstone inscriptions from the churchyard of the First Reformed Dutch Church of Fishkill village, Dutchess Co., N.Y. New York: Press of G.P. Putnam's Sons, 1882?, p 157 Hier Leyt Het Lighaam van JACOBUS SWARTWOUT, Zynde In de Heere Gerust Den 3 Dagh van April, 1749, Oude Zynde 57 Jaar., 1 maande en 20 Dagen. There are only 4 gravestones bearing the surname Swartwout who are buried at Fishkill (and are legible), and they include Swartwout, Catherine O. (1798-1873) Swartwout, Cornelius. (1809-1831) Swartwout, Jacobus. (1692-1749) Swartwout, James O.. (1803-1882) See the following website, which includes some details on the "Eagle Scout" project (the year 2000) which catelogued and photographed all the gravestones at the Fishkill Reformed Church burial ground. It includes all the photographs of the gravestones, including those that were illegible, and/or where the inscription was completely worn away. Also included are maps of the cemetery and other introductory details, plus missing gravetones (from Poucher's Old Gravestones of Dutchess Co.). http://fishkillreformed.org:5300/ Regards, Pam Sears

While you are in theSayre book, is there any reference to the following Daniel Sayre This is a dead end in my Dayton line JOHN C VAN BUSKIRK http://www.geocities.com/vanbus1/ jvanbus1@twcny.rr.com Descendants of Daniel Sayre Generation No. 1 1. DANIEL1 SAYRE Child of DANIEL SAYRE is: 2. i. MARY2 SAYRE. Generation No. 2 2. MARY2 SAYRE (DANIEL1) She married JOHN OWEN. Child of MARY SAYRE and JOHN OWEN is: 3. i. MARY3 OWEN. Generation No. 3 3. MARY3 OWEN (MARY2 SAYRE, DANIEL1) She married ROBERT DAYTON Abt. 1770, son of JONATHAN DAYTON and PATIENCE ?.. He was born 1742, and died May 31, 1814. Children of MARY OWEN and ROBERT DAYTON are: i. MARY (POLLY)4 DAYTON, m. ?? (DR) UPSON. ii. NOAH DAYTON, d. 1851; m. ELIZABETH RUNYON. iii. JOHN DAYTON, b. 1771; d. 1855; m. (1) MARGARET ROY; m. (2) RHODA FAIRCHILD. More About JOHN DAYTON: Fact 1: to Indiana iv. LEVI DAYTON, b. 1775; d. 1851; m. RUTH HALL; b. 1787; d. 1844. v. JOEL DAYTON, b. September 07, 1777; d. May 03, 1833; m. NANCY LEWIS; b. April 23, 1787; d. August 09, 1866. vi. AMOS DAYTON, b. September 28, 1779; d. August 14, 1855; m. (1) KATE CROSS; m. (2) ELIZABETH COOPER; b. 1783; d. January 15, 1871. vii. BAILEY DAYTON, b. April 04, 1782; d. August 01, 1862; m. SARAH LEWIS; b. October 07, 1784. viii. JONATHAN DAYTON, b. January 30, 1786; d. June 27, 1849, Basking Ridge, NJ; m. PHOEBE DAY, December 10, 1810; b. April 22, 1789; d. February 02, 1870.

Hi Bob, You wrote (in part): > Does anyone have access to the SAYRE Genealogy, by Theodore M. > BANTA? Is there any information on Albert Zabriskie BANTA and his > wives in it? Theoodore M. BANTA, the genealogist, was the son of > Albert Zabriskie BANTA and Sarah Ann SAYRE, and hence a step-son of > Mary Ann HOPPE(R) SKAATS BANTA. I found the Sayre Genealogy by Theodore M. Banta on-line at Heritage Quest. Banta, Theodore Melvin, Sayre family : lineage of Thomas Sayre, a founder of Southampton; New York: (1901) On page 497, Mr. Banta said (believe it or not), ABSOLUTELY NOTHING about a second marriage for his father. He mentioned the death of his mother, Sarah Ann Sayre on 5 Sep 1839 in Augusta, GA (and that Albert Zabriskie Banta returned to NYC in 1841 and died there 31 Aug 1854), and then proceeded to list the children (without missing a beat). Since Theodore M. Banta was born 23 Nov 1834, you would think he might have been aware of a strange woman in the household <vbg>. Regards, Pam Sears

My gg-gm, Deborah Rivers Skaats was b. 1826, NYC, NY, the daughter of Bartholomew Skaats and his wife, Mary Ann (b. ca. 1800-05). Mary Ann was known as Grandma Banta to her grandchildren, including my g-grandmother. This confused me until I found her subsequent marriage, Jun 5, 1842, to Albert Zabriskie BANTA (#737), in George Olin ZABRISKIE’s “Zabriskie Family”. Zabriskie shows her as Mary Ann Hopper, wid of Bartholomew Skaats. So, who was Mary Ann HOPPER? Ree HOPPER, in her “Hopper Family,” lists her as an unknown and unattached HOPPER. Was she a descendant of the large Dutch HOPPER family, or the NY, English HOPPERS? Further research, rather than shedding light on the situation, makes it muddier. On Deborah R. (SKAATS) GESLAIN’s Death Certificate, Kings Co # 7717, Apr 20, 1909, located at the NYC Municipal Archives shows her father as Batholomew SKAATS, but her mother as Mary Ann PRICE. Is this a mistake? Or was Zabriskie wrong? Or did Zabriskie just miss her first marriage to an unknown HOPPER, before she married Batholomew SKAATS? Does anyone have information on a Mary Ann PRICE? Or a PRICE Family in NYC (including Brooklyn) or northern NJ, in the early 1800’s? Does anyone have access to the SAYRE Genealogy, by Theodore M. BANTA? Is there any information on Albert Zabriskie BANTA and his wives in it? Theoodore M. BANTA, the genealogist, was the son of Albert Zabriskie BANTA and Sarah Ann SAYRE, and hence a step-son of Mary Ann HOPPE(R) SKAATS BANTA. Bob Protzmann

I don't recall writing any names down, or taking pictures of them as I was about out of memory. I will, however, be going back soon, and be sure to get pictures of any stone for which I get an e-mail request. Yours is being filed away now--just hope I remember the file Doug and Dee <hanne@frontiernet.net> wrote: Hi Barbara, Did you see a gravestone for Roeloff SWARTWOUT? Thanks, Doug ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" To: Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Swartwout >I paid a short visit to the RDC of Fishkill this afternoon, and noticed a >few Swartwout tombstoes. I was reminded of the recent conversation on this >list regarding the Swartwouts.> > Barbara from NJ > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Barbara L. de Mare, Esq. Historian, genealogist and attorney 155 Polifly Road Hackensack, New Jersey 07601 (201) 567-9440 office BarbaradeMare@yahoo.com (home) http://historygenealogyesq.blogspot.com/

Hi Barbara, Did you see a gravestone for Roeloff SWARTWOUT? Thanks, Doug ************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************************** ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara de Mare" <barbarademare@yahoo.com> To: <dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Swartwout >I paid a short visit to the RDC of Fishkill this afternoon, and noticed a >few Swartwout tombstoes. I was reminded of the recent conversation on this >list regarding the Swartwouts.> > Barbara from NJ > > Barbara L. de Mare, Esq.

Hello List: Perhaps this all started circa 1950 with the Scott publication "Jacobus Jansen Van Etten: Some Ten Generations in America." who identified the parents of the progenitor of the American family as Johannes Marinus and is wife Wilhelmina Hoannes [i.e., Johannes]. Then in 2001, Frans Gouverneur posted to this list a transcription of the 1634 baptismal record in the ROMAN CATHOLIC CHURCH of "Jacobus" son of Johannes Marinus and his wife [see Dutch-Colonies-L-Archives: "Jacob Jansz Van etten and Tack Family," dated 6 June 2001.] We know from his patronymic that the immigrant's father's name was Johannes/Jan/John; but how can we be certain it was this particular Johannes Marinus? Were there not any other "Jacobs" born to "Johns" in Etten during the appropriate timeframe? What evidence suggests the immigrant Jacob Jansen was from a Catholic family? He had his children baptized in the Kingston Reformed Dutch Church, but this is not conclusive. Many other settlers of other denominations had their children baptized in whatever church was most convenient in a time when churches and ministers were few and far between. However, Jacob Jansen appears in 1676 on the list of petitioners to procure a "minister" for the settlement at Esopus "who could preache in both Inglishe and Duche" (Doc. History of NY, vol. iii, p. 965, as cited by Collins, "The Van Etten Family of Ulster and Orange Counties, NY" NYG&BR. 30:52-54). Would a Catholic be so enthusiastic about bring a Protestant minister to his town? The fact is that Mr. Gouverneur also points out to us on 16 May 2001 [see Dutch-Colonies-L-Archives: "FW:[D-Col] Heyltje Van Etten"] that the Reformed Church records for Etten are not extant prior to 1648, so that if - in fact - our Jacob was from a Protestant family his baptismal record does not exist. Have we collectively "settled" on our immigrant ancestor as the son of Johannes Marinus simply because his record was the first/easiest/only one found/extant? I sincerely wonder if this is the correct identification, because if it is true why didn't Jacob name - as was customary - his first daughter (or second or any, for that matter) Wilhelmina/Wellempje/Wyntje, etc. after his supposed mother? Comments welcome. Patti Metsch

FYI When I opened the spotted cow web site, my security program warned me it was a dangerous web site because of spyware. Tom Terbush -----Original Message----- From: dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dutch-colonies-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Olive Tree Genealogy Sent: Thursday, May 31, 2007 6:36 AM To: dutch-colonies@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DE BONTE KOE > > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:04 EDT > From: Jacassidy22@aol.com > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] The Spotted Cow or Bonte Koe > To: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com, NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c08.191cb658.338ee304@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Recently I heard from Vince Akers, and he noted that our Lammert Jansen > Dorland came over on the Spotted Cow, as did his mother's Demaree ancestor. > Vince told me that he and his family were in Amsterdam in 1997, they lucked > into an exhibit on BonteKoe at the Maritime Museum and I quote: "It turns out > that the skipper of the Spotted Cow named his son BonteKoe and that son > because a famous seafaring explorer about whom legends were many and many books > were written including children's story books. BONTEKOE, the man or the > legend seemd to have become a kind of Dutch version of Daniel Boone." > > I decided to see if there was anything on line that I could pull up that > would expand on his information, however the museum and library are both closed > for renovations. However, here is their website: > > _http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/_ (http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/) > > If anyone has further information to add to this, I would be very interested. > Judy, DE BONTE KOE (The Spotted Cow) Sailed from Amsterdam 16 April 1663, arrived in New Amsterdam betwen 11 May 1663 and 17 August 1663 with Captain Jan Bergen see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nnship23.shtml You might also want to have a look at "De Scheepvaart en handel van de Nederlandse Republiek op Nieuw-Nederland 1609-1675", an unpublished thesis by Jaap Jacobs ( translated by Willem Rabbelier and Cor Snabel) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/mm_shipamny.shtml Lorine -- Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

> > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 30 May 2007 10:24:04 EDT > From: Jacassidy22@aol.com > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] The Spotted Cow or Bonte Koe > To: Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com, NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c08.191cb658.338ee304@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Recently I heard from Vince Akers, and he noted that our Lammert Jansen > Dorland came over on the Spotted Cow, as did his mother's Demaree ancestor. > Vince told me that he and his family were in Amsterdam in 1997, they lucked > into an exhibit on BonteKoe at the Maritime Museum and I quote: "It turns out > that the skipper of the Spotted Cow named his son BonteKoe and that son > because a famous seafaring explorer about whom legends were many and many books > were written including children's story books. BONTEKOE, the man or the > legend seemd to have become a kind of Dutch version of Daniel Boone." > > I decided to see if there was anything on line that I could pull up that > would expand on his information, however the museum and library are both closed > for renovations. However, here is their website: > > _http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/_ (http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/) > > If anyone has further information to add to this, I would be very interested. > Judy, DE BONTE KOE (The Spotted Cow) Sailed from Amsterdam 16 April 1663, arrived in New Amsterdam betwen 11 May 1663 and 17 August 1663 with Captain Jan Bergen see http://olivetreegenealogy.com/ships/nnship23.shtml You might also want to have a look at "De Scheepvaart en handel van de Nederlandse Republiek op Nieuw-Nederland 1609-1675", an unpublished thesis by Jaap Jacobs ( translated by Willem Rabbelier and Cor Snabel) at http://olivetreegenealogy.com/nn/mm_shipamny.shtml Lorine -- Olive Tree Genealogy http://olivetreegenealogy.com

Dear Administrator - don't know how to convert this, maybe you can. LVP ----- Original Message ----- From: Louanne Van Pelt<mailto:lounfritz@msn.com> Cc: Jacassidy22@aol.com<mailto:Jacassidy22@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] The Spotted Cow or Bonte Koe Don't know how to convert this from RTF Judy - maybe you do. Lou Geulincx, Arnold Page 1 of 1 Geulincx, Arnold b. Jan. 31, 1624, Antwerp, Spanish Netherlands [now in Belgium] d. November 1669, Leiden, Neth. pseudonym PHlLARETUS, Flemish metaphysician, logician, and leading exponent of a philosophical doctrine known as occasional ism based on the work of Rene Descartes, as extended to include a comprehensive ethical theory . Geulincx studied philosophy and theology at the University of Louvain, where he became a professor in 1646. In 1658 he was dismissed, probably because of his sympathy with Jansenism, the Roman Catholic movement emphasizing man's sinful nature and dependency on God's grace for salvation. Taking refuge at leiden, in Holland, he adopted the strict, Jansen-Iike theology of John Calvin. In September 1658 he became a medical doctor and, in the following year, was authorized to lecture privately in philosophy for a few months. He lived in poverty until 1662, when he obtained a lectureship in logic at the University of leiden, where in 1665 he became professor extraordinary of philosophy and ethics. Geulincx's major works include Quaestiones Quodlibeticae (1653; "Miscellaneous Questions"), reedited by him at leiden as Saturnalia (1665); Logica ...Restituta (1662; "logic Restated"); and the ethical dissertation De Virtute (1665; "On Virtute"). After his death, his pupil C. Bontekoe published, under Geulincx's pseudonym, Philaretus, his six treatises on ethics, Gnothi Seauton (1615; "Know Thyself "). As Philaretus, Geulincx accepted the progression in Cartesian metaphysics from doubt to knowledge and from knowledge to God and affirmed the dominant role of the will in forming judgments. Geulincx, however, aimed to submit the will to the authority of reason. This "ethics of humility" reflects the author's Jansenism and Calvinism. In his Metaphysica Vera (1691; "True Metaphysics"), he disappointed Cartesian expectations that a scientific mastery of matter, life, and mind will develop and instead emphasized man's impotence before the transcendent Creator . The inspiration for Geulincx's attempt to complete Descartes's system came primarily from the writings of St. Augustine. The opposition between the incomprehensible Deity and his creation also formed the basis for Geulincx's doctrine of occasionalism: God uses the "occasion" of the body to produce various human attitudes. Though people may believe that they act unaided, God actually works within them to make their will effective. Geulincx's works have been collected as Arnoldi Geulinex Antverpiensis Opera Philosophica, 3 vol. ( 1891-93 ; "The Philosophical Works of Arnold Geulincx of Antwerp"). Copyright @ 1994-2001 Encyclopmdia Britannica, Inc. file:IIC'., 1'\ . . Geulincx, Arnold Page 1 of 1 Geulincx, Arnold b. Jan. 31, 1624, Antwerp, Spanish Netherlands [now in Belgium] d. November 1669, Leiden, Neth. pseudonym PHlLARETUS, Flemish metaphysician, logician, and leading exponent of a philosophical doctrine known as occasional ism based on the work of Rene Descartes, as extended to include a comprehensive ethical theory . Geulincx studied philosophy and theology at the University of Louvain, where he became a professor in 1646. In 1658 he was dismissed, probably because of his sympathy with Jansenism, the Roman Catholic movement emphasizing man's sinful nature and dependency on God's grace for salvation. Taking refuge at leiden, in Holland, he adopted the strict, Jansen-Iike theology of John Calvin. In September 1658 he became a medical doctor and, in the following year, was authorized to lecture privately in philosophy for a few months. He lived in poverty until 1662, when he obtained a lectureship in logic at the University of leiden, where in 1665 he became professor extraordinary of philosophy and ethics. Geulincx's major works include Quaestiones Quodlibeticae (1653; "Miscellaneous Questions"), reedited by him at leiden as Saturnalia (1665); Logica ...Restituta (1662; "logic Restated"); and the ethical dissertation De Virtute (1665; "On Virtute"). After his death, his pupil C. Bontekoe published, under Geulincx's pseudonym, Philaretus, his six treatises on ethics, Gnothi Seauton (1615; "Know Thyself "). As Philaretus, Geulincx accepted the progression in Cartesian metaphysics from doubt to knowledge and from knowledge to God and affirmed the dominant role of the will in forming judgments. Geulincx, however, aimed to submit the will to the authority of reason. This "ethics of humility" reflects the author's Jansenism and Calvinism. In his Metaphysica Vera (1691; "True Metaphysics"), he disappointed Cartesian expectations that a scientific mastery of matter, life, and mind will develop and instead emphasized man's impotence before the transcendent Creator . The inspiration for Geulincx's attempt to complete Descartes's system came primarily from the writings of St. Augustine. The opposition between the incomprehensible Deity and his creation also formed the basis for Geulincx's doctrine of occasionalism: God uses the "occasion" of the body to produce various human attitudes. Though people may believe that they act unaided, God actually works within them to make their will effective. Geulincx's works have been collected as Arnoldi Geulinex Antverpiensis Opera Philosophica, 3 vol. ( 1891-93 ; "The Philosophical Works of Arnold Geulincx of Antwerp"). Copyright @ 1994-2001 Encyclopmdia Britannica, Inc. file:IIC'., 1'\ . . ----- Original Message ----- From: <Jacassidy22@aol.com<mailto:Jacassidy22@aol.com>> To: <Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com<mailto:Dutch-Colonies@rootsweb.com>>; <NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com<mailto:NEW-NETHERLAND@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 8:24 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] The Spotted Cow or Bonte Koe > > Recently I heard from Vince Akers, and he noted that our Lammert Jansen > Dorland came over on the Spotted Cow, as did his mother's Demaree > ancestor. > Vince told me that he and his family were in Amsterdam in 1997, they > lucked > into an exhibit on BonteKoe at the Maritime Museum and I quote: "It > turns out > that the skipper of the Spotted Cow named his son BonteKoe and that son > because a famous seafaring explorer about whom legends were many and many > books > were written including children's story books. BONTEKOE, the man or the > legend seemd to have become a kind of Dutch version of Daniel Boone." > > I decided to see if there was anything on line that I could pull up that > would expand on his information, however the museum and library are both > closed > for renovations. However, here is their website: > > _http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/_ (http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/<http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/>) > > If anyone has further information to add to this, I would be very > interested. > > Thanks > > Judy > > > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com<http://www.aol.com/>. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, From: <Jacassidy22@aol.com> Sent: Wednesday, May 30, 2007 7:24 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] The Spotted Cow or Bonte Koe > > Recently I heard from Vince Akers, and he noted that our Lammert Jansen > Dorland came over on the Spotted Cow, as did his mother's Demaree ancestor. > Vince told me that he and his family were in Amsterdam in 1997, they lucked > into an exhibit on BonteKoe at the Maritime Museum and I quote: "It turns out > that the skipper of the Spotted Cow named his son BonteKoe and that son > because a famous seafaring explorer about whom legends were many and many books > were written including children's story books. BONTEKOE, the man or the > legend seemd to have become a kind of Dutch version of Daniel Boone." The ship Bonte Koe on which Lammert Jansen Dorlant came to New Netherland in 1663 appears to be a different one from the one captained by BonteKoe. See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Willem_Ysbrandtsz._Bontekoe This appears to be his journal of BonteKoe's 1618 to 1625 adventure: http://books.google.com/books?id=T7yZlTceQ88C&dq=bontekoe&printsec=frontcover&source=web&ots=1V9ICEvApw&sig=cXgiwf46cu7sHpLgl8zn2BpEpMw Regards, Howard hswain@ix.netcom.com

Recently I heard from Vince Akers, and he noted that our Lammert Jansen Dorland came over on the Spotted Cow, as did his mother's Demaree ancestor. Vince told me that he and his family were in Amsterdam in 1997, they lucked into an exhibit on BonteKoe at the Maritime Museum and I quote: "It turns out that the skipper of the Spotted Cow named his son BonteKoe and that son because a famous seafaring explorer about whom legends were many and many books were written including children's story books. BONTEKOE, the man or the legend seemd to have become a kind of Dutch version of Daniel Boone." I decided to see if there was anything on line that I could pull up that would expand on his information, however the museum and library are both closed for renovations. However, here is their website: _http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/_ (http://www.scheepvaartmuseum.nl/) If anyone has further information to add to this, I would be very interested. Thanks Judy ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.

Hi Joan Hantel, There are no baptismal records available for Gerritje Hendrickse Van Buren. She was born about 1665, probably in Albany. The published records for the Albany Reformed Church do not begin until 1683. Richard

Does anyone have a birth or Christening date for Gerritie HendericksVanBuren, wife of Jacob Ôans Schermerhorn? thanks for any help--joan

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Hi Fred, Gerritje Hendrickse Van Buren had her first child, Catalyntje, by Jacob Jacobse Schermerhorn on 26 Aug 1683. There is no exact marriage date available, but it would have been in late 1682 or early 1683. I have 9 children for the family. Gerritje died on 20 Jan 1710, probably in Albany, Check the Schenectady History website for more information on this family. Richard

I sent the .pdf of the newsletter to Jay Westerfield yesterday. He and his wife are getting it printed and mailed out, so look for it in your mailbox next week. I will have more updates avilable soon. Hugs, Carolyn On May 24, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Barbara Terhune wrote: > Dear Carolyn, > > In hopes of being able to join 'the cousins" in Sept...if it isn't too > much trouble, could > you please send your latest details (especially the schedule) via > snail > mail to me: > Barb Terhune (aka oldbat) > 134 Florence Blvd > Debary, FL 32713 > > I didn't ask earlier to get it via e-mail, because I have a very > slllllllloooooooooooooowwwww > dial-up connection and sometimes BIG e-mails die in transit. > > Due to health problems we won't be able to go on the "bus trip", but > HOPE to be able > to follow the bus in our car....???? AND we are surely looking > forward > to meeting you, Vince Akers, > and lots of of new cousins! Our own Terhune "Rendezvous" seem > to be > "in decline", so I am hoping > that some of our group will also join your better organized, more > experienced group. > > It's looking rather grim that our book "West of the Salt (Mercer Co., > KY" will be ready in time; > but we are near completion on another, title still under "debate" > concerning some of the > early (1637- 1780) Terhune/Van Sicklen/Frelinghuysen families in > NY and > NJ and the families > with whom they intermarried, viz: Van Voorhees, Wyckoff, et al. > Besides > providing updated (read "corrected") genealogy, it delves deeply into > the social and > religious conflicts of that time and place, including the Leisler > Rebellion and the Frelinghuysen > Controversy. > > Warmest regards, > Barb Terhune > > Carolyn Leonard wrote: > >> Hi I hope you will send me a notice when WEST OF THE SALT is on the >> market! Will it be ready for the autograph party at Dutch Cousns >> Gathering in Shelbyville on September 28? >> >> Hugs, Carolyn >> Remember you have a friend in Oklahoma -- endlessly sorting out dead >> relatives! >> Researching COZINE in Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana, Pennsylvania, New >> Jersey, Nieuw Amsterdam (New York) and the Netherlands. >> Mark your calendars to attend the Dutch Cousins gathering in >> Shelbyville, KY on September 28-30, 2007 >> >> >> On May 15, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Barbara Terhune wrote: >> >> >> >>> Barbara, Donna, Judy and any others interested in this topic, >>> >>> Below is a copy of Chapter III in the book we are preparing, >>> "West of >>> the Salt", about early Dutch settlers of Mercer Co., KY . >>> It should be noted that the two groups led by Hendrick Banta and >>> Sam >>> Durie had no intention of settling in Mercer Co. They >>> had planned to settle in the vicinity of Boonesborough., about 10 >>> miles >>> south of present-day Lexington, KY (Fayette Co.) >>> >>> ----------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- >>> COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >>> >>> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- >> COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Carolyn, In hopes of being able to join 'the cousins" in Sept...if it isn't too much trouble, could you please send your latest details (especially the schedule) via snail mail to me: Barb Terhune (aka oldbat) 134 Florence Blvd Debary, FL 32713 I didn't ask earlier to get it via e-mail, because I have a very slllllllloooooooooooooowwwww dial-up connection and sometimes BIG e-mails die in transit. Due to health problems we won't be able to go on the "bus trip", but HOPE to be able to follow the bus in our car....???? AND we are surely looking forward to meeting you, Vince Akers, and lots of of new cousins! Our own Terhune "Rendezvous" seem to be "in decline", so I am hoping that some of our group will also join your better organized, more experienced group. It's looking rather grim that our book "West of the Salt (Mercer Co., KY" will be ready in time; but we are near completion on another, title still under "debate" concerning some of the early (1637- 1780) Terhune/Van Sicklen/Frelinghuysen families in NY and NJ and the families with whom they intermarried, viz: Van Voorhees, Wyckoff, et al. Besides providing updated (read "corrected") genealogy, it delves deeply into the social and religious conflicts of that time and place, including the Leisler Rebellion and the Frelinghuysen Controversy. Warmest regards, Barb Terhune Carolyn Leonard wrote: >Hi I hope you will send me a notice when WEST OF THE SALT is on the >market! Will it be ready for the autograph party at Dutch Cousns >Gathering in Shelbyville on September 28? > >Hugs, Carolyn >Remember you have a friend in Oklahoma -- endlessly sorting out dead >relatives! >Researching COZINE in Kentucky, Kansas, Indiana, Pennsylvania, New >Jersey, Nieuw Amsterdam (New York) and the Netherlands. >Mark your calendars to attend the Dutch Cousins gathering in >Shelbyville, KY on September 28-30, 2007 > > >On May 15, 2007, at 9:41 AM, Barbara Terhune wrote: > > > >>Barbara, Donna, Judy and any others interested in this topic, >> >>Below is a copy of Chapter III in the book we are preparing, "West of >>the Salt", about early Dutch settlers of Mercer Co., KY . >>It should be noted that the two groups led by Hendrick Banta and Sam >>Durie had no intention of settling in Mercer Co. They >>had planned to settle in the vicinity of Boonesborough., about 10 >>miles >>south of present-day Lexington, KY (Fayette Co.) >> >>----------------- >>To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- >>COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH-COLONIES-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > >

Hello, I have recently returned to this site after a three year "break" and having read the Van Buren comments I went and checked on 'my" Van Buren;namily, Gerritje Hendrickse Van Buren.According to my skimpy records she was married to Jacob J.Schermerhorn about 1684.And I suspect it was in Schenectady. I have nothing else on her including the names of her parents. Any information that would expand my data base would be greatly appreciated. Fred Parsons ************************************** See what's free at http://www.aol.com.