Hi Mike, Here is what is in the "Old First Reformed Church of Brooklyn" by Jos Van Der Linde, p. 136 1696, October 18: - Jannitje; parents: Hendrik Jansen, Geertje Andriesse; witnesses: Benjamin Hegeman, Geertruijt Hegeman. Nora On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:23 PM, mike <[email protected]> wrote: > The baptismal record below was taken from the transcription done by the > Holland Society of the records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New > York. > Can someone who has access to the transcription done by A.P.G. Jos Van Der > Linde "Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, First Book of Records" > confirm the name of the father in this record? > > 1696 Oct. 18, Jannitje. Hendrik Jansen, Geertje Andriesse. Witnesses: > Benjamin Hegeman, Geertruyt Hegeman. > Holland Society Yearbook, 1897, pg 170. First Book of Records of the Dutch > Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York > > Thanks for your help. > > Mike Morrissey > >

The baptismal record below was taken from the transcription done by the Holland Society of the records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York. Can someone who has access to the transcription done by A.P.G. Jos Van Der Linde "Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, First Book of Records" confirm the name of the father in this record? 1696 Oct. 18, Jannitje. Hendrik Jansen, Geertje Andriesse. Witnesses: Benjamin Hegeman, Geertruyt Hegeman. Holland Society Yearbook, 1897, pg 170. First Book of Records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York Thanks for your help. Mike Morrissey

"As for the past, he said: 'There's always going to be people who remember the old library on 58th Street and miss it.' " Should have put a literate man or woman in charge. Good golly, "There IS always going to be people who remember..."??? Quelle dommage. Bryce ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Koenig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 10:50 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] NY Times article about the NYG&B building andlibrary > We can read this and weep :-(: > > http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/3-years-after-a-windfall-an-unexpected-reality-for-the-genealogical-society/ > > Dorothy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Nora: Thanks anyway. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: Nora Probasco <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 7:05:13 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Brookly Baptism verification Bill, There is nothing even near to that name in the index. Nora On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 8:02 PM, Bill Forshay <[email protected]> wrote: > Nora: > > I've found the name spelled 142 way so far. I gave you the most used > except FORSHEE. > They are all mostly from Westchester and Rockland Counties. I was hoping > you > would find some there. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nora: I've found the name spelled 142 way so far. I gave you the most used except FORSHEE. They are all mostly from Westchester and Rockland Counties. I was hoping you would find some there. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: Nora Probasco <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 6:52:32 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Brookly Baptism verification Bill, I checked the index and there are no Forshay or Foshay listed. Many of the listings are patronymics and not the surnames later adopted. What would be the full name? By the way, I don't know of any website. I own the book. Nora On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Bill Forshay <[email protected]> wrote: > Nora: > > Does the "Old First Reformed Church of Brooklyn" have a web site? If > not, > could you look to see if any FORSHAY's or FOSHAY's are listed there? > > I appreciate any help you can provide. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Nora: Does the "Old First Reformed Church of Brooklyn" have a web site? If not, could you look to see if any FORSHAY's or FOSHAY's are listed there? I appreciate any help you can provide. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: Nora Probasco <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wed, August 25, 2010 6:44:04 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Brookly Baptism verification Hi Mike, Here is what is in the "Old First Reformed Church of Brooklyn" by Jos Van Der Linde, p. 136 1696, October 18: - Jannitje; parents: Hendrik Jansen, Geertje Andriesse; witnesses: Benjamin Hegeman, Geertruijt Hegeman. Nora On Wed, Aug 25, 2010 at 7:23 PM, mike <[email protected]> wrote: > The baptismal record below was taken from the transcription done by the > Holland Society of the records of the Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New > York. > Can someone who has access to the transcription done by A.P.G. Jos Van Der > Linde "Old First Dutch Reformed Church of Brooklyn, First Book of Records" > confirm the name of the father in this record? > > 1696 Oct. 18, Jannitje. Hendrik Jansen, Geertje Andriesse. Witnesses: > Benjamin Hegeman, Geertruyt Hegeman. > Holland Society Yearbook, 1897, pg 170. First Book of Records of the Dutch > Reformed Church of Brooklyn, New York > > Thanks for your help. > > Mike Morrissey > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thank you, Dorothy. I certainly would have missed that, if you had not pointed it out. Richard Williamson Tucson, AZ In a message dated 8/25/2010 7:51:34 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time, [email protected] writes: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/3-years-after-a-windfall-an-une xpected-reality-for-the-genealogical-society/

We can read this and weep :-(: http://cityroom.blogs.nytimes.com/2010/08/22/3-years-after-a-windfall-an-unexpected-reality-for-the-genealogical-society/ Dorothy

VERY NICE Chris, thanks!!!!!!! Cynthia -----Original Message----- From: Chris Chester <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, Aug 15, 2010 3:45 pm Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Adam Brouwer and wife Magdalena Jacobs Verdon Cynthia, You can download digital images of Adam Brouwer's will from this page ttp://web.me.com/blacknorthfarm/Brouwer_Genealogy/Images/Pages/Adam_Brouwers_Will.html his copy is from the Surrogate's Court, Albany County, NY, FHL film 0481436 Click on each of the images individually and you will then be able to ownload each to your own computer. Use your computer's tools to nlarge, etc. My transcription of the will from these images can be found here ttp://web.me.com/blacknorthfarm/Brouwer_Genealogy/Transcription_of_Adam_Brouwers_Will.html Nicholas is mentioned in the will. Subsequent deeds between Nicholas nd his brothers, specifically Pieter and Abraham regarding the owanus Mill property also exist. And of course there is the record of icholas's baptism, 16 April 1672 at the New York Reformed Dutch hurch (NYGBR 8:25). Regards, hris Chester n Aug 15, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Cmiddaughzuber wrote: > Very sorry for the below font size but that's the way it pasted from my Gen. Program and nothing I tried made it larger. I would like to know if this is the same Adam Brouwer who married Magdalena Jacobs Verdon and are possibly the parents of the Nicholas Brouwer who married Jannetje Caljer. If so, why isn't Nicholas mentioned in this will? TIA, Cynthia Abstracts of Wills Vol I 1665-1707, pages 213 & 214: (written 22 Jan 1691) Page 421.--Letters of administration upon the estate of ADAM BREWER, late of the town of Brooklyn, are granted by Governor Benjamin Fletcher, to his widow, Magdalena Brewer, April 15, 1693. Page 422.--ADAM BREWER. "In the name of God Amen. Whereas I, Adam Brewer, Berkhoon, inhabitant of ye Towne of Brooklandt, being at present sick, but fully having my knowledge and understanding." "I desire that none of my children shall trouble or move their mother during her life." "I leave to my eldest son Peter, 3 shillings by reason that he has been disobedient to his father. And also Jacob Brewer and Altie Brewer for reason of their disobedience shall not receive a penney from their father Adam Brewer," but their portions are left to their children. The other 7 children, Mathys, William, Adam, Abraham, Anna, Sarah, and Rachel shall have an equal share in the estate. Leaves to Adolphus the son of William, 3 pieces of 8. To Magdalena, daughter of Peter, 1 piece of 8, and to his daughter Vrentie 1 piece of 8. "This is that which ye Testator Adam Brewer as his last will and testament, he hath signed and sealed the same with his own hand," January 22, 1692. Makes Barent Van F! lentburg and Wm. Nazareth tutors and overseers. Witnesses, Henry Sleght, Cornelius Sebrig, Johanes Fredrichs. The foregoing witnesses appeared before me, November 21, 1692, and made oath to the same. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

Congrats to Dorothy Koenig for her excellant article on New Netherland in the recent issue of NEHGS American Ancestors magazine! Jenny Inskeep

Cynthia, You can download digital images of Adam Brouwer's will from this page http://web.me.com/blacknorthfarm/Brouwer_Genealogy/Images/Pages/Adam_Brouwers_Will.html This copy is from the Surrogate's Court, Albany County, NY, FHL film #0481436 Click on each of the images individually and you will then be able to download each to your own computer. Use your computer's tools to enlarge, etc. My transcription of the will from these images can be found here http://web.me.com/blacknorthfarm/Brouwer_Genealogy/Transcription_of_Adam_Brouwers_Will.html Nicholas is mentioned in the will. Subsequent deeds between Nicholas and his brothers, specifically Pieter and Abraham regarding the Gowanus Mill property also exist. And of course there is the record of Nicholas's baptism, 16 April 1672 at the New York Reformed Dutch Church (NYGBR 8:25). Regards, Chris Chester On Aug 15, 2010, at 4:22 PM, Cmiddaughzuber wrote: > > Very sorry for the below font size but that's the way it pasted from > my Gen. Program and nothing I tried made it larger. > > I would like to know if this is the same Adam Brouwer who married > Magdalena Jacobs Verdon and are possibly the parents of the Nicholas > Brouwer who married Jannetje Caljer. If so, why isn't Nicholas > mentioned in this will? > TIA, > Cynthia > > Abstracts of Wills Vol I 1665-1707, pages 213 & 214: (written 22 Jan > 1691) > Page 421.--Letters of administration upon the estate of ADAM BREWER, > late of the town of Brooklyn, are granted by Governor Benjamin > Fletcher, to his widow, Magdalena Brewer, April 15, 1693. > Page 422.--ADAM BREWER. "In the name of God Amen. Whereas I, Adam > Brewer, Berkhoon, inhabitant of ye Towne of Brooklandt, being at > present sick, but fully having my knowledge and understanding." "I > desire that none of my children shall trouble or move their mother > during her life." "I leave to my eldest son Peter, 3 shillings by > reason that he has been disobedient to his father. And also Jacob > Brewer and Altie Brewer for reason of their disobedience shall not > receive a penney from their father Adam Brewer," but their portions > are left to their children. The other 7 children, Mathys, William, > Adam, Abraham, Anna, Sarah, and Rachel shall have an equal share in > the estate. Leaves to Adolphus the son of William, 3 pieces of 8. To > Magdalena, daughter of Peter, 1 piece of 8, and to his daughter > Vrentie 1 piece of 8. "This is that which ye Testator Adam Brewer as > his last will and testament, he hath signed and sealed the same with > his own hand," January 22, 1692. Makes Barent Van F! > lentburg and Wm. Nazareth tutors and overseers. > Witnesses, Henry Sleght, Cornelius Sebrig, Johanes Fredrichs. > The foregoing witnesses appeared before me, November 21, 1692, and > made oath to the same. > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the message

Cynthia, A correction to the will of Adam Brouwer Berchoven (Abstracts of Wills Vol I 1665-1707, pp. 213 & 214) is found in Vol. XVI, pp. 22-23. The full citation is: New York (State). William S. Pelletreau and John Keller, Abstracts of Wills on File in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York, New York[, 17 Vols. (New York: The New York Historical Society, 1893); digital image. Cornell University Library, New York State Historical Literature Cornell University Library (http://digital.library.cornell.edu : Sept. 2008), Vol. XVI, pp. 22-23, "Corrections Abstracts of Wills, Volume I.." This entry corrects the number of children from 7 to 11, and names Nicholas, Mary, Fytie and Helena Brewer; also mentions grandchildren, Mary, daughter of Magdalen, Magdalen, daughter of Mathys, Magdalen, daughter of Fytie. Hope this helps. Larry Voreis

Very sorry for the below font size but that's the way it pasted from my Gen. Program and nothing I tried made it larger. I would like to know if this is the same Adam Brouwer who married Magdalena Jacobs Verdon and are possibly the parents of the Nicholas Brouwer who married Jannetje Caljer. If so, why isn't Nicholas mentioned in this will? TIA, Cynthia Abstracts of Wills Vol I 1665-1707, pages 213 & 214: (written 22 Jan 1691) Page 421.--Letters of administration upon the estate of ADAM BREWER, late of the town of Brooklyn, are granted by Governor Benjamin Fletcher, to his widow, Magdalena Brewer, April 15, 1693. Page 422.--ADAM BREWER. "In the name of God Amen. Whereas I, Adam Brewer, Berkhoon, inhabitant of ye Towne of Brooklandt, being at present sick, but fully having my knowledge and understanding." "I desire that none of my children shall trouble or move their mother during her life." "I leave to my eldest son Peter, 3 shillings by reason that he has been disobedient to his father. And also Jacob Brewer and Altie Brewer for reason of their disobedience shall not receive a penney from their father Adam Brewer," but their portions are left to their children. The other 7 children, Mathys, William, Adam, Abraham, Anna, Sarah, and Rachel shall have an equal share in the estate. Leaves to Adolphus the son of William, 3 pieces of 8. To Magdalena, daughter of Peter, 1 piece of 8, and to his daughter Vrentie 1 piece of 8. "This is that which ye Testator Adam Brewer as his last will and testament, he hath signed and sealed the same with his own hand," January 22, 1692. Makes Barent Van Flentburg and Wm. Nazareth tutors and overseers. Witnesses, Henry Sleght, Cornelius Sebrig, Johanes Fredrichs. The foregoing witnesses appeared before me, November 21, 1692, and made oath to the same.

Chris, Thank you for the will, I now understand why I could not find it, I was looking in the wrong place. And on top of it all, this is the original will, with the creases from the shuck, not a recorded copy. It is rather touching to see a document our ancestor handled 320 years ago. Marleen Van Horne

Cynthia, Having found my copy of the 1893 recopied recording, Nicholas is mention in the Will and Adam left pieces of eight to five granddaughters named Magdalena. I still want to see the original recorded will, if it exists. Marleen

Cynthia, This is the Will of Adam Brouwer Berkoven, the husband of Magdalena Verdon. The will you quoted does not match the text of the recorded copy that I have in my possession, and I am not sure that my copy is accurate either. As you have noted, there are two sets of page numbers. One set is the page numbers when the will was originally recorded and the subsequent page showing Magdalena Verdon as administrator. Adam Brouwer's estate was not finally settled until 1697, when Magdalena died. In about 1893, the original books were recopied, and that is the second set of page numbers. It is the copied version that is available on microfilm from the Family History Library. According to the Library's index the original version is supposed to be on another film, but I have never been able to find the original. If my recollection is correct, several granddaughters named Magdalena were give pieces of eight, not just two. One of these granddaughters is supposed to be the daughter of Fytje Adam Brouwer, but no other record shows that Fytje had a daughter named Magdalena. If she did, the girl's father would have to have been Evert Hendircksen, as Adam Brouwer wrote this will before Fytje married Matthys Cornelissen. I have been meaning to call the New York State Surrogate's Office to see if the original recorded copy still exists. Marleen Van Horne

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Many thanks to Mike and Pam for their information on John and Barent Hartman of New Brunswick, NJ. Judy

Judy, A John and Dorothy Hartwick had the following children baptized at the First Reformed Church of New Brunswick: 15 Mar 1761. Hartwyck, John and Dority - Maria [PNJHS New Series Vol 12(1927):80] 26 Aug 1764 Hartwick, John and Dorete - Johannes [PNJHS New Series Vol 12(1927):224] Mike Morrissey -------------------------------------------------- From: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, August 06, 2010 2:16 PM To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] John and Barent (Barnt) Hardwick or Hartwick ofNew Brunswick, NJ > I am looking for family information and dates for John Hartwick > [Hardwick], a boatman, living in New Brunswick, NJ in the mid-1700's. John > died intestate, his Inventory taken 19 Dec. 1783, Letters of > Administration were filed by Joseph Vickers 2 January 1784, his son Barent > or Barnt renounced his claim. > > Thank you > > Judy Cassidy > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Judy, You wrote: > I am looking for family information and dates for John Hartwick > [Hardwick], a boatman, living in New Brunswick, NJ in the mid-1700's. > John died intestate, his Inventory taken 19 Dec. 1783, Letters of > Administration were filed by Joseph Vickers 2 January 1784, his son > Barent or Barnt renounced his claim. > > Thank you > > Judy Cassidy Don't you mean that [Letters of] Administration were _granted to_ Joseph Vickers [and not "filed by" him]? The abstract you refer to reads as follows: Calendar of New Jersey Wills, VOL. VI, 1781-1785 p 181 Vol 35 of the Series 1784, Jan. 2. Hartwick, John, of Middlesex Co.; died intestate. [Letters of] Administration was granted to Joseph Vickers of said Co. Fellowbondsman -- Moses Scott of Somerset Co. Witness -- William Harrison 1784, Jan. 2. Renunciation by Barnt Hartwick, son of John Hartwick, boatman, deceased, late of New Brunswick. Witness -- John Thompson. 1783, Dec. 19; Inventory, (£512.17.8), made by James Richmond and Joseph Robinson. Lib. 26, p 319 John Hartwick [deceased as per the above] was the son of Barent Hartwick and his wife Maria, and was baptized [as Johannis] at New Brunswick as follows: New Brunswick First Reformed Church Baptisms 1717-1820 From Proceedings of the New Jersey Historical Society [PNJHS New Series Vol 11(1926):402] 1735, Feb. 16; Hartwick, Barent and Mary -- Johannis John Hartwick had siblings: [PNJHS New Series Vol 11(1926):402] 1734, Feb. 24; Hartwick, Barent and Marya -- Elizabeth [PNJHS New Series Vol 11(1926):405] 1738, Mar. 20; Hartwick, Barent and Mari -- James [PNJHS New Series Vol 11(1926):408] 1741, June 15; Hartwick, Barent and Maria -- Johanna [PNJHS New Series Vol 11(1926):410] 1743, June 26; Hartwick, Barent and Maria -- Tice Witnesses: Tice and Debera Sollom Regards, Pam Sears