Nora, As far as I am aware, Jeremias did not leave a will. His son, Jeremiah, left was will stating he had 7 brothers and sisters, naming only one, Rem (see abstact below). The number agrees with those listed in the Annals of Newtown. There was a son, Jeremiah, who was baptized at the DRC of Brooklyn on 22 AUG 1708 (sorry but I don't have the reference), but he died young. Though it is not stated in the will, Barent Johnson was the husband of Ann Remsen, d/o Jannetje Remsen, sister of Jeremiah. Abstracts of wills on file in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York (Volume X. Oct 23, 1780-Nov 5, 1782), p 250, ABSTRACTS OF WILLS LIBER 35. Page 13. In the name of God, Amen. I, JEREMIAS REMSEN, of the Wallabought of the Township of Brooklyn, Kings County, being sick and weak in body. All my just and lawful debts and funeral expenses to be paid. I leave all my personal estate to my widow; also, the use of all my real estate, while my widow. Should she remarry, she is to have no more than the personal estate; and that in lieu of dower. At her death or remarriage all my real estate is to go to Barrent Johnson; he paying for seven years running, £50 yearly, to my seven brothers and sisters, or to their children; to be divided between them. Also, £12 to my brother, Rem Remsen's grandson, Jeremias Remsen, the first year. In case the said Barrent Johnson does not appear to take possession of the estate, then all my real estate in the Township of Brookland is to go to the eldest son of said Barrent, to wit: Jeremias Johnson, he paying all the legacies in the same manner which his father was ordered to do. Also, in, such case, all the real estate which I have in the Township of Bushwick to go to the wife of the said Barrent while his widow; at her death or remarriage to go to the three youngest children of said Barrent, to wit: John, Jeromis, and Catelina, in equal shares. I make my loving wife executrix, and my friends, Abram Remsen, Jeremias Remsen, and Martin Schenk, executors. Dated September 26, 1776. Witnesses, John Alstyne, of the City of New York, blacksmith, Martin Schenk, Kings County, yeoman, Nicholas Couwenhoven. Proved, May 14, 1782 Mike Morrissey > Date: Wed, 17 Nov 2010 14:09:31 -0500 > From: [email protected] > To: [email protected] > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Will of Jeremias Vanderbeeck Remsen > > Does anyone know if there was a will for Jeremias Vanderbeeck Remsen who > married Heyltje Probasco? I am looking for documentation that would prove > their children's names. I have assembled the names I believe are their > children from Bergen's Register of Early Settlers of Kings County and the > Annals of Newtown in Queens Co., NY, but would like to have something more > substantial to prove who they were. > > Nora > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Does anyone know if there was a will for Jeremias Vanderbeeck Remsen who married Heyltje Probasco? I am looking for documentation that would prove their children's names. I have assembled the names I believe are their children from Bergen's Register of Early Settlers of Kings County and the Annals of Newtown in Queens Co., NY, but would like to have something more substantial to prove who they were. Nora

?Hi Mark E. Dixon, I guess we are cousins because Agnietje Casperse Steinmets (1629-1704), and Leendert Philipse CONYN (1620-1704) are my 9th great grandparents. They are listed on mu website at www.ahgelfire.com/ga4/myhayes_family/ Richard

For anyone interested in the Rapalje family, I suggest you Google "Rapelje and Glen Cove", which will lead you to a 2007 Newsday article about Peter Rapelje who has extensive documentation of 14 generations of Rapeljes, plus original documents. Pat Gillmartin On Nov 15, 2010, at 3:02 AM, [email protected] wrote: > Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie ([email protected]) > 2. Re: Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie (Willard Saunders) > > > > From: [email protected] > Date: November 14, 2010 7:37:09 PM EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > Daughtered out? I rather think not. There were Rappelyea families in > Ulster and Orange counties when I lived there in the 1950's. My 4th > gr-grandmother was Elizabeth Rappelyea, b 1771 in Ulster County. Her father was > Jeremiah. I've not yet been able to connect them to Joris, but I hope that > will become apparent as more research is done. > > Laura Crepeau > > > > > > > > From: Willard Saunders <[email protected]> > Date: November 14, 2010 11:52:34 PM EST > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > "Jacob Rapelye and John Rapelye of Marbletown, Uslter County, NY." > "The History of Ulster County, New York, Volume 1", Edited by Alphonso > T. Clearwater, p. 132 (Westminister MD: Hertitage Books, 2007) > > On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: >> Daughtered out? I rather think not. There were Rappelyea families in >> Ulster and Orange counties when I lived there in the 1950's. My 4th >> gr-grandmother was Elizabeth Rappelyea, b 1771 in Ulster County. Her father was >> Jeremiah. I've not yet been able to connect them to Joris, but I hope that >> will become apparent as more research is done. >> >> Laura Crepeau >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > > > To contact the DUTCH-COLONIES list administrator, send an email to > [email protected] > > To post a message to the DUTCH-COLONIES mailing list, send an email to [email protected] > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text.

Is anyone on the list a descendant of the Steynmets or Steinmets family? I descend from Agnietje Casperse Steinmets (1629-1704), the wife of Leendert Philipse CONYN (1620-1704) of Albany, NY. I've just found (via Rootsweb's WorldConnect) a 14-generation pedigree that carries Agnietje's ancestry back to 12th Century Bavaria. I've pasted the line below. I've found nothing in the way of source information. The line can be viewed here: http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=charlies_tree&id=I0728 I'd love to hear from anyone familiar with either this family, or this line. Thanks! Mark E. Dixon Wayne, PA

"Jacob Rapelye and John Rapelye of Marbletown, Uslter County, NY." "The History of Ulster County, New York, Volume 1", Edited by Alphonso T. Clearwater, p. 132 (Westminister MD: Hertitage Books, 2007) On Sun, Nov 14, 2010 at 7:37 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > Daughtered out?  I rather  think not.  There were  Rappelyea families in > Ulster and Orange counties when I lived there in the  1950's.  My 4th > gr-grandmother was Elizabeth Rappelyea, b 1771 in Ulster  County. Her father was > Jeremiah.  I've not yet been able to connect  them to Joris, but I hope that > will become apparent as more research is  done. > > Laura Crepeau > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Daughtered out? I rather think not. There were Rappelyea families in Ulster and Orange counties when I lived there in the 1950's. My 4th gr-grandmother was Elizabeth Rappelyea, b 1771 in Ulster County. Her father was Jeremiah. I've not yet been able to connect them to Joris, but I hope that will become apparent as more research is done. Laura Crepeau

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Catarina Van Wagenen, daughter of Gerrit Van Wagenen and Annaetje Sip, born 8 Dec 1722 [Acq. #4] married (1) Casparus Zabriskie, son of Joost Zabriskie and Christyntie Mabie, 30 April 1747 [Acq #284] and had four children. Casparus Zabriski of Bergen County, yeoman, left a will dated 17 March 1764, proved 13 Sept 1764. Wife Cathrine Zabriskie, alias Vanwagen, by an agreement, is to have possession of the house where she lives, and the merchant shop with the goods, and £50 to bring up her children, she being contented therewith, and we agreeing to part from each other, and having a writing of divorce. My son Joost, watch. Rest of real and moveable estate to my children, Joost, Cristena and Sara Z Zabriskie. (Said Joost not yet of age). [WILL-NJA 4:494]. Catarina married (2) Teunis Tiebout 12 June 1768. "Teunis Tiebout & Catharina v. Wagenen" [NYDC 1:228]. Who is Teunis Tiebout and are there any divorce records on line? Regards, Ethel Kay Konight

Cynthia, Mike and others following this line, Thank you for answering my query on Cornelis Rapalje. With your information, including sources, I was able to fit Cornelis and his wife Aeltje into the Rapalje family. Russel Shorto, in his book The Island at the Center of the World, wrote "Their descendants [Rapalje] have been estimated at upwards of one million..." I am a Rapalje descendant and in the fourth generation I have very few male Rapalje's with sons and I wondered if the name Rapalje was daughtered out. How sad, if one of the earliest families in New Amsterdam left no descendants with the name Rapalje. Someone, please prove me wrong. Thank you again for all your help. Regards, Ethel Kay Konight ================================ In a message dated 11/8/2010 [email protected] writes: Ethel, I forgot to mention that the witnesses at Cornelius' baptism were probably his paternal aunt, Jannetje Rapalje and her husband, Jan DeBevoise. Mike Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: mike Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie Ethel, Cornelius was the son of Joris Rapalje and Agnes Berrien. Aeltje was the daughter of Joris Abrahamse Brinkerhoff and Annetje Teunise Bogart. The abstract of his will reads: Page 311.--In the name of God, Amen. I, CORNELIUS RAPALYE, of Newtown, in Queens County, "being in reasonable health." All debts to be paid. I leave to my wife Aeltie the use of all my estate during her widowhood. But if she happens to marry, then she is to have only an equal share with my children. I leave to my son Joris £50. All the rest of my estate to my children, Joris, Daniel, Abraham, Cornelius, Angentie, Antie, and Jannettie. "After the death or marriage of my wife, all my whole estate is to be put up to sale to the highest bidder by my executors." I make my brothers, Daniel, Abraham, and Jacob Rapalye, and my brothers-in-law, Tunis Brinkerhoff and Hendrick Brinkerhoff, executors. Dated January 3, 1745. Witnesses, Richard Pinfold, Edmund Pinfold, Cornelius Berrian, Jr. Proved, May 23, 1768. Abstracts of wills on file in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York (Volume VII. June 6, 1766-Nov. 29, 1771), page 177 Agnes was baptized at Jamaica on 01 Nov 1728 Daniel was baptized at Jamaica on 06 Apr 1733 Ann was baptized to Newtown on 04 Oct 1741 Mike Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie Who are the parents of Cornelis Rapalje and his wife Aaltie? Baptism: Child: Cornelis, Parents: Cornelis Rappelye and Aaltie Rapelye. Baptized: 22 Yuly 1738 Wits: Jan Bevooes and Jannetie Bevoes. First Reformed Dutch Church of Jamaica, Long Island Serialized in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record [NYG&BR 107(1976):206] Regards, Ethel Kay Konight

Ethel, I forgot to mention that the witnesses at Cornelius' baptism were probably his paternal aunt, Jannetje Rapalje and her husband, Jan DeBevoise. Mike Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: mike Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 2:12 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie Ethel, Cornelius was the son of Joris Rapalje and Agnes Berrien. Aeltje was the daughter of Joris Abrahamse Brinkerhoff and Annetje Teunise Bogart. The abstract of his will reads: Page 311.--In the name of God, Amen. I, CORNELIUS RAPALYE, of Newtown, in Queens County, "being in reasonable health." All debts to be paid. I leave to my wife Aeltie the use of all my estate during her widowhood. But if she happens to marry, then she is to have only an equal share with my children. I leave to my son Joris £50. All the rest of my estate to my children, Joris, Daniel, Abraham, Cornelius, Angentie, Antie, and Jannettie. "After the death or marriage of my wife, all my whole estate is to be put up to sale to the highest bidder by my executors." I make my brothers, Daniel, Abraham, and Jacob Rapalye, and my brothers-in-law, Tunis Brinkerhoff and Hendrick Brinkerhoff, executors. Dated January 3, 1745. Witnesses, Richard Pinfold, Edmund Pinfold, Cornelius Berrian, Jr. Proved, May 23, 1768. Abstracts of wills on file in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York (Volume VII. June 6, 1766-Nov. 29, 1771), page 177 Agnes was baptized at Jamaica on 01 Nov 1728 Daniel was baptized at Jamaica on 06 Apr 1733 Ann was baptized to Newtown on 04 Oct 1741 Mike Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie Who are the parents of Cornelis Rapalje and his wife Aaltie? Baptism: Child: Cornelis, Parents: Cornelis Rappelye and Aaltie Rapelye. Baptized: 22 Yuly 1738 Wits: Jan Bevooes and Jannetie Bevoes. First Reformed Dutch Church of Jamaica, Long Island Serialized in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record [NYG&BR 107(1976):206] Regards, Ethel Kay Konight ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ethel, Cornelius was the son of Joris Rapalje and Agnes Berrien. Aeltje was the daughter of Joris Abrahamse Brinkerhoff and Annetje Teunise Bogart. The abstract of his will reads: Page 311.--In the name of God, Amen. I, CORNELIUS RAPALYE, of Newtown, in Queens County, "being in reasonable health." All debts to be paid. I leave to my wife Aeltie the use of all my estate during her widowhood. But if she happens to marry, then she is to have only an equal share with my children. I leave to my son Joris £50. All the rest of my estate to my children, Joris, Daniel, Abraham, Cornelius, Angentie, Antie, and Jannettie. "After the death or marriage of my wife, all my whole estate is to be put up to sale to the highest bidder by my executors." I make my brothers, Daniel, Abraham, and Jacob Rapalye, and my brothers-in-law, Tunis Brinkerhoff and Hendrick Brinkerhoff, executors. Dated January 3, 1745. Witnesses, Richard Pinfold, Edmund Pinfold, Cornelius Berrian, Jr. Proved, May 23, 1768. Abstracts of wills on file in the Surrogate's Office, City of New York (Volume VII. June 6, 1766-Nov. 29, 1771), page 177 Agnes was baptized at Jamaica on 01 Nov 1728 Daniel was baptized at Jamaica on 06 Apr 1733 Ann was baptized to Newtown on 04 Oct 1741 Mike Morrissey -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] Sent: Monday, November 08, 2010 11:19 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Cornelis Rapalje and wife Aaltie Who are the parents of Cornelis Rapalje and his wife Aaltie? Baptism: Child: Cornelis, Parents: Cornelis Rappelye and Aaltie Rapelye. Baptized: 22 Yuly 1738 Wits: Jan Bevooes and Jannetie Bevoes. First Reformed Dutch Church of Jamaica, Long Island Serialized in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record [NYG&BR 107(1976):206] Regards, Ethel Kay Konight ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Who are the parents of Cornelis Rapalje and his wife Aaltie? Baptism: Child: Cornelis, Parents: Cornelis Rappelye and Aaltie Rapelye. Baptized: 22 Yuly 1738 Wits: Jan Bevooes and Jannetie Bevoes. First Reformed Dutch Church of Jamaica, Long Island Serialized in the New York Genealogical and Biographical Record [NYG&BR 107(1976):206] Regards, Ethel Kay Konight

The William and Mary Quarterly Third Series, Volume 67, Number 4October 2010 The Merchant, the Map, and Empire: Augustine Herrman’s Chesapeake and Interimperial Trade, 1644–73 Abstract | Web Supplement Christian J. Koot 603 http://oieahc.wm.edu/wmq/index.cfm Ancestors' names and references frequently seen on this Listserv. Outstanding scholarship.

-----HENDRICKS AND HENDRICKSON FAMILY OF MONMOUTH COUNTY, NJ FAMILY REUNION Everyone interested in the Hendrickson Cemetery is invited!! Saturday November 13, 2010 at Old Brick Church, 490 County Highway No. 520 East, Marlboro, NJ Church Office: 732-946-8860 Tues - Thur 9:30 to 4 PM There are picnic grounds near the back of the church and an annex building, Volharden Hall. This is the same place that we had our first family reunion in June 1999 3 PM - 5 PM Outdoor picnic; Tour of the cemetery of the Reformed Dutch Church of the Navesink now Old Brick Church. The church was founded in 1699 and later built on Hendrickson Hill (granted by Daniel and William Hendricks(on). They were both buried in the Hendrickson Cemetery on Laurel Avenue in Holmdel. The original Daniel Hendrickson house was on the corner of Laurel and Holland Avenue. His brother, William, had a house and sawmill nearby on the Mahoras Creek which parallels Laurel Avenue. 5 PM - 6 PM "The Founding of New Netherland" and "The Origin of the Hendricks(on) Family" A recent discovery in the 300-year-old papers in the New York State Archives by DelLynn Leavitt, the genealogist for the Henry Hendricks Family, has revealed the origin of the Hendricks(on) Family of Monmouth County, NJ. Dr. Andrew Hendricks will discuss this totally unexpected finding. DelLynn Leavitt and his family are flying out from Idaho to join us. LeAnn Hord and her daughter, Ann, are coming from Texas to assist at the meeting. An updated copy of Dr. Hendricks' book The Hendricks and Hendrickson Family of Monmouth County, NJ will be available. 6 PM - 7 PM or later Hendricks and Hendrickson Family Association meeting Discussion of the destruction of the Hendrickson Cemetery. This meeting is important to establish legal standing in order to receive any funds for the restoration of the Hendrickson Cemetery. Without legal standing, we can not restore the cemetery. Sunday, November 14th, 2010 10 PM Church Service at Old Brick Church (see address and phone number for the church above) 2 PM Lecture on "Daniel Hendrickson 1723-1788: Early Monmouth County Merchant, Entrepeneur, Artist, and Musician" by Joe Hammond at the Monmouth County Historical Association, 70 Court Street, Freehold, NJ Hope you can all make it to the Family Reunion!. Andrew A. Hendricks, MD 103 Rosewood Drive Lumberton, NC 28358 910 738-7154 Office 910 738-4455 Fax

Antoni Swartwout, the second son of Roeloff Swartwout and Eva Albertse Bradt (widow of Anthony de Hooges) was baptized on 8 January 1662 at the RDC Kingston. He had 4 sponsors. One sponsor was his grandfather Thomas Swartwout. The other 3 sponsors were Aart Martensen Dorn, Tryntje Tyson, and Jacomyntje Slecht. This son Antoni must have died young as another son Antoni was bp 11 May 1664 in Kingston and lived to maturity. Regarding the sponsors of the first Antoni Swartwout... the only thing I could find out about Aart Martensen Dor was that he was a tailor and in 1662 lived in New Amsterdam. He later lived in Kingston. I think the Tryntje Tyson listed as a sponsor was Tryntje Tyson Bos, wife of Cornelis Barentse Slecht. I think the Jacomyntje Slecht listed as a sponsor was their 17 year old daughter. Perhaps I am reading more into baptism sponsorships than I should, but I am trying to figure out why Roeloff Swartwout and his wife would select these three people (Dorn, Trntje Tysons, and her 17 year old daughter as sponsors. I don't see any family relationship to Swartwout. Since the grandfather Swartwout was a sponsor and the grandmother Swartwout was not, I am wondering if this indicates that Thomas Swartwout's wife was dead by the baptism date of Jan 8, 1662? As far as I know, no one has a death date or place for her. Helen Graves

Hi Chris, The translation of this document could be very important for Swartwoudt-Swartwood researchers in trying to determine when Tomas Swartwoudt first came to America. If it says that Tomas is granting power of attorney to his wife to run his businesses in Amsterdam and that he is going to be leaving, it indicates that he left after May 7, 1652, and that his wife was staying behind in Amsterdam. As far as I know, no one has been able to determine when his wife came to America. I don't think anyone has been able to determine when their son Roeloff came to America either. As for the other 3 children -- whether they came to America or not -- I don't know what happened to them. I have researched only their son Roeloff. In the Feb 2002 issue of "The Blackwooders" newsletter it says that the whole family came to America in March 1652. (No source given for that statement.) Since the Power of Attorney you have found in Amsterdam has a date of May 7, 1652, it appears that none of them arrived here in March 1652. I have been away from Swartwood research for a few years so I am not up to date with knowing if anyone is actively researching the first Swartwout-Swartwood to come to America. But since Thomas (Tomas) was the first, it is important to get it right as to when he first arrived. As far as I know, all descendants come from his son Roeloff. Determining when Roeloff came -- whether with his father in 1652 or if he came later with his mother -- is also important. Based upon "The Reformed Dutch Church of New Amsterdam (New York City) Church Members List (on line), page 506 says that Thomas Swartwoudt and Hendrickje Barents, his wife, were members. Per the explanation of this church member list, the time period covered was 1649-1659. It says the list appeared to be in chronological order so to use page 506 as an estimate as to when they were church members. My guess was it was 1653-1659. That's the closest I can come to determining when Tomas' wife arrived (i.e. at some time between 1653-1659). I hope you can get to this translation soon as it could shed a lot of light for all Swartwoudt-Swartwood descendants. Helen Graves

Helen Unfortunately I haven't had the time to transcribe and translate the document. I have it on my lists of projects for this winter but don't know when I'll get around to it. From what I can tell reading through the document, it is a Power of Attorney from Tomas Swartwoudt to his wife allowing her to run his businesses in Amsterdam as he is preparing to go to New Netherland. I can't tell yet if this is his first trip or a return but I am guessing that this was Tomas first voyage and that he either returned later for his family or sent for them. I realize this is not a lot of information but really all I have right now. Hopefully I can get this transcribed this winter. Take care Chris On Tue, Nov 2, 2010 at 6:33 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > To Dorothy Koenig and Chris Brooks, > > Back in August 2009 you were posting about a document dated 1652 for Thomas > Swartwoudt. You were going to translate it. Has it been translated yet? > If so, what does it say? Can you tell me more about this document? > > My husband descends from Thomas Swartwoudt. > > Helen Graves > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Dorothy Koenig" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 AM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Thomas Swartwoudt > > > > Chris, Whenever your translation is ready, of course I would like to > > publish it and the Dutch version as well in NNC. Dorothy > > > >>Hello list > >> > >>This is for all researchers of Thomas Swartwoudt. I was doing some > >>research > >>in the Amsterdam Notary records and I happened to stumble across a notary > >>record dated 1652 for Thomas Swartwoudt. I happened across it by accident > >>and I don't think it appears in either Noord Amerika Chronologie, > >>Hoffman's > >>list of Dutch settlers of Pim Niewenhuis abstract of Amsterdam Notary > >>records that appeared in New Netherland Connection. I haven't transcribed > >>it > >>but it calls him a 'vrij koopman' or free merchant and Nieuw Nederlandt > so > >>I > >>don't know if he was emigrating or had made a visit back to Amsterdam. > The > >>witnesses were Jan pitersen italian & Hendrick borckman. It's a one page > >>document, very good quality and contains Thomas signature. Was he in New > >>Netherland by this date? > >> > >>I can send copies to interested persons but I may transcribe it and try > to > >>translate it and publish it in NNC or some other publication. > >> > >>Take care > >> > >>Chris > >> > >> > >>-- > >>Chris Brooks > >>Kansas City, Missouri > >>816-363-1831 > >> > >>------------------------------- > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Chris Brooks Kansas City, Missouri 816-363-1831

Dear Helen, I hope Chris replies. I have heard nothing further :-(. Dorothy >To Dorothy Koenig and Chris Brooks, > >Back in August 2009 you were posting about a document dated 1652 for Thomas >Swartwoudt. You were going to translate it. Has it been translated yet? >If so, what does it say? Can you tell me more about this document? > >My husband descends from Thomas Swartwoudt. > >Helen Graves >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Dorothy Koenig" <[email protected]> >To: <[email protected]> >Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 AM >Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Thomas Swartwoudt > > >> Chris, Whenever your translation is ready, of course I would like to >> publish it and the Dutch version as well in NNC. Dorothy >> >>>Hello list >>> >>>This is for all researchers of Thomas Swartwoudt. I was doing some >>>research >>>in the Amsterdam Notary records and I happened to stumble across a notary >>>record dated 1652 for Thomas Swartwoudt. I happened across it by accident >>>and I don't think it appears in either Noord Amerika Chronologie, >>>Hoffman's >>>list of Dutch settlers of Pim Niewenhuis abstract of Amsterdam Notary >>>records that appeared in New Netherland Connection. I haven't transcribed >>>it >>>but it calls him a 'vrij koopman' or free merchant and Nieuw Nederlandt so >>>I >>>don't know if he was emigrating or had made a visit back to Amsterdam. The >>>witnesses were Jan pitersen italian & Hendrick borckman. It's a one page >>>document, very good quality and contains Thomas signature. Was he in New >>>Netherland by this date? >>> >>>I can send copies to interested persons but I may transcribe it and try to >>>translate it and publish it in NNC or some other publication. >>> >>>Take care >>> >>>Chris >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Chris Brooks >>>Kansas City, Missouri >>>816-363-1831 >>> >>>------------------------------- > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' >without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

To Dorothy Koenig and Chris Brooks, Back in August 2009 you were posting about a document dated 1652 for Thomas Swartwoudt. You were going to translate it. Has it been translated yet? If so, what does it say? Can you tell me more about this document? My husband descends from Thomas Swartwoudt. Helen Graves ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dorothy Koenig" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, August 13, 2009 10:50 AM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Thomas Swartwoudt > Chris, Whenever your translation is ready, of course I would like to > publish it and the Dutch version as well in NNC. Dorothy > >>Hello list >> >>This is for all researchers of Thomas Swartwoudt. I was doing some >>research >>in the Amsterdam Notary records and I happened to stumble across a notary >>record dated 1652 for Thomas Swartwoudt. I happened across it by accident >>and I don't think it appears in either Noord Amerika Chronologie, >>Hoffman's >>list of Dutch settlers of Pim Niewenhuis abstract of Amsterdam Notary >>records that appeared in New Netherland Connection. I haven't transcribed >>it >>but it calls him a 'vrij koopman' or free merchant and Nieuw Nederlandt so >>I >>don't know if he was emigrating or had made a visit back to Amsterdam. The >>witnesses were Jan pitersen italian & Hendrick borckman. It's a one page >>document, very good quality and contains Thomas signature. Was he in New >>Netherland by this date? >> >>I can send copies to interested persons but I may transcribe it and try to >>translate it and publish it in NNC or some other publication. >> >>Take care >> >>Chris >> >> >>-- >>Chris Brooks >>Kansas City, Missouri >>816-363-1831 >> >>-------------------------------