Hi Bill...have seen other of your postings but didn't know you had Conklins....mine do go back a far piece.....to one that married a Riker....got to check my stuff and some sites to put it in perspective. My Banta, Demarests are the ones that were in the Low Dutch Colony at Conewago, PA and came to KY in the 1780's.....my Montforts fit in at Conewago and sometime into NJ as well. barb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Forshay <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011 16:13 Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Banta, Demarest & Conklin To: [email protected] > Barbara: > > I saw your post where you have > BANTA, DEMAREST & CONKLIN's. I have also > be researching them as they are in my line of FORSHAY's. I dated > a Conklin girl > in high school, her brother was my best buddy. .Maybe we can > help each other. > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Barbara Whiteside <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sat, May 14, 2011 12:18:30 PM > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 6, > Issue 33 > > have had the book for several months for summer reading...may as > well move it up > to spring reading after the postive comments on here....thanks. > > barbara whiteside > > family names include, Montfort, Banta, Riker, Demarest, > Bloedgoet, Crocheron, > duBois, Conklin, deRuine, Brinckerhoff, Marston, Haff, > Seubering,.....off the > top of my head...there are more. > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Maria Hopper <[email protected]> > Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:08 > Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 6, > Issue 33 > To: [email protected] > > > I also read Rutherfurd's book and enjoyed it too. > > > > > > From: Dee <[email protected]> > > > Date: May 13, 2011 7:57:44 PM EDT > > > To: Brooklyn Mailing List <[email protected]>, > > Dutch > > > Colonies Mailing List <[email protected]>, > Kings > > Mailing > > > List <[email protected]>, New York City Mailing List > > <[email protected] > > > >, NY Mailing ListNYC <[email protected]>, Queens > > Mailing List <[email protected] > > > > > > > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] "New York" by Edward Rutherfurd > > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > > > > I've just finished Edward Rutherfurd's new book "New > > York". It's an > > > historical fiction of the history of New York from the > > early > > > settling of the Dutch through 2009. Wonderful > > reading. Made the > > > history come alive as his characters interacted with the > > notables of > > > history. > > > Dee in Phoenix > > > > > > > > > > > > > Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper > > compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; > > Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) > > of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations > > www.reetree.com > > > > [email protected] > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com > THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE > > http://www.montfortfamilyetc.blogspot.com > > http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kyshakerfamily > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE http://www.montfortfamilyetc.blogspot.com http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kyshakerfamily

have had the book for several months for summer reading...may as well move it up to spring reading after the postive comments on here....thanks. barbara whiteside family names include, Montfort, Banta, Riker, Demarest, Bloedgoet, Crocheron, duBois, Conklin, deRuine, Brinckerhoff, Marston, Haff, Seubering,.....off the top of my head...there are more. ----- Original Message ----- From: Maria Hopper <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:08 Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33 To: [email protected] > I also read Rutherfurd's book and enjoyed it too. > > > > From: Dee <[email protected]> > > Date: May 13, 2011 7:57:44 PM EDT > > To: Brooklyn Mailing List <[email protected]>, > Dutch > > Colonies Mailing List <[email protected]>, Kings > Mailing > > List <[email protected]>, New York City Mailing List > <[email protected] > > >, NY Mailing ListNYC <[email protected]>, Queens > Mailing List <[email protected] > > > > > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] "New York" by Edward Rutherfurd > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > I've just finished Edward Rutherfurd's new book "New > York". It's an > > historical fiction of the history of New York from the > early > > settling of the Dutch through 2009. Wonderful > reading. Made the > > history come alive as his characters interacted with the > notables of > > history. > > Dee in Phoenix > > > > > > > > Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper > compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; > Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) > of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations > www.reetree.com > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE http://www.montfortfamilyetc.blogspot.com http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kyshakerfamily

Barbara: I saw your post where you have BANTA, DEMAREST & CONKLIN's. I have also be researching them as they are in my line of FORSHAY's. I dated a Conklin girl in high school, her brother was my best buddy. .Maybe we can help each other. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: Barbara Whiteside <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sat, May 14, 2011 12:18:30 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33 have had the book for several months for summer reading...may as well move it up to spring reading after the postive comments on here....thanks. barbara whiteside family names include, Montfort, Banta, Riker, Demarest, Bloedgoet, Crocheron, duBois, Conklin, deRuine, Brinckerhoff, Marston, Haff, Seubering,.....off the top of my head...there are more. ----- Original Message ----- From: Maria Hopper <[email protected]> Date: Saturday, May 14, 2011 10:08 Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] DUTCH-COLONIES Digest, Vol 6, Issue 33 To: [email protected] > I also read Rutherfurd's book and enjoyed it too. > > > > From: Dee <[email protected]> > > Date: May 13, 2011 7:57:44 PM EDT > > To: Brooklyn Mailing List <[email protected]>, > Dutch > > Colonies Mailing List <[email protected]>, Kings > Mailing > > List <[email protected]>, New York City Mailing List > <[email protected] > > >, NY Mailing ListNYC <[email protected]>, Queens > Mailing List <[email protected] > > > > > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] "New York" by Edward Rutherfurd > > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > > > > I've just finished Edward Rutherfurd's new book "New > York". It's an > > historical fiction of the history of New York from the > early > > settling of the Dutch through 2009. Wonderful > reading. Made the > > history come alive as his characters interacted with the > notables of > > history. > > Dee in Phoenix > > > > > > > > Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper > compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; > Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) > of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations > www.reetree.com > > [email protected] > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUTCH- > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > http://bar-b-k.tripod.com THE MONTFORT FAMILY: A NARRATIVE http://www.montfortfamilyetc.blogspot.com http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?db=kyshakerfamily ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I also read Rutherfurd's book and enjoyed it too. > > From: Dee <[email protected]> > Date: May 13, 2011 7:57:44 PM EDT > To: Brooklyn Mailing List <[email protected]>, Dutch > Colonies Mailing List <[email protected]>, Kings Mailing > List <[email protected]>, New York City Mailing List <[email protected] > >, NY Mailing ListNYC <[email protected]>, Queens Mailing List <[email protected] > > > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] "New York" by Edward Rutherfurd > Reply-To: [email protected] > > > I've just finished Edward Rutherfurd's new book "New York". It's an > historical fiction of the history of New York from the early > settling of the Dutch through 2009. Wonderful reading. Made the > history come alive as his characters interacted with the notables of > history. > Dee in Phoenix > > > Maria (Ree) Pratt Hopper compiler of The Hopper Family Genealogy; Descendants of Andries Willemszen Hoppe(n) of New Amsterdam 1651-1658; First Six Generations www.reetree.com [email protected]

Yes, I enjoyed it as well. A real sweep of New York history. On May 13, 2011 7:58 PM, "Dee" <[email protected]> wrote: > I've just finished Edward Rutherfurd's new book "New York". It's an historical fiction of the history of New York from the early settling of the Dutch through 2009. Wonderful reading. Made the history come alive as his characters interacted with the notables of history. > Dee in Phoenix > > When a person dies, a library closes. > Researching: > NJ: Snook, Bozarth, Dickerson, Dalton, Hicks, Asay > NY: Semlear, Stoothoff, Foster, Murray, Dierks, Cairns > PA: Hicks, Shaw, Roberts, Swartz/Black, Penrose > Nova Scotia: Arthur, Hutt, Eisenhauer, Conrod, Morris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I've just finished Edward Rutherfurd's new book "New York".  It's an historical fiction of the history of New York from the early settling of the Dutch through 2009.  Wonderful reading.  Made the history come alive as his characters interacted with the notables of history. Dee in Phoenix When a person dies, a library closes. Researching: NJ: Snook, Bozarth, Dickerson, Dalton, Hicks, Asay NY: Semlear, Stoothoff, Foster, Murray, Dierks, Cairns PA: Hicks, Shaw, Roberts, Swartz/Black, Penrose Nova Scotia: Arthur, Hutt, Eisenhauer, Conrod, Morris

If you have a Mac you could use Snapshot to take a picture of the screen, or you could use the print function and save it as a PDF. This is not the most optimal way, but it does work. I got a nifty little program called PDF Combiner (for Mac only) that you can use to combine separate JPG, PNG, PDF, etc. into a single PDF document. Nora On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:01 AM, Firth Fabend <[email protected]> wrote: > I inquired of the G&B about this matter. Here's the reply. > "The website was designed so that full articles cannot be downloaded. We > are > in the process of launching a new website (due early summer) which will > allow easier access. The new site will allow a full article to be printed > (by members) and I expect it will be able to be downloaded, but that is > currently being worked on. For the time being you might let people know > that > full articles cannot currently be downloaded, but a new website, due to > launch in early summer, will have greater accessibility." > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I inquired of the G&B about this matter. Here's the reply. "The website was designed so that full articles cannot be downloaded. We are in the process of launching a new website (due early summer) which will allow easier access. The new site will allow a full article to be printed (by members) and I expect it will be able to be downloaded, but that is currently being worked on. For the time being you might let people know that full articles cannot currently be downloaded, but a new website, due to launch in early summer, will have greater accessibility."

Hi all, Last Dec. the Society's email message told of a work-around to access a given volume of the Record online (members only). Once the desired issue comes up, there is a pane at the left with all the individual pages. Clicking on a page causes that page to be downloaded in PDF format. Does anyone know how to download a whole article (or a range of pages) at once? All I can find to do is to click on each page one at a time and let it down load one at a time. Thanks, Howard [email protected]

Mike, I have no idea how those page numbers got switched to the area following your name, however, they belong in an orderly fashion after GMNJ 17:5-6; 32-37 etc. Judy Apr 25, 2011 09:11:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: =========================================== The records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Flatlands includes a page listing pew rents (FHL Film 888716 pg 105). It lists names, number of places and the amount of money paid. Does anyone know at what age parents started paying pew rents for their children? Thanks. Mike Morrissey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Mike, 37,61-63Listed in the GMNJ, 17:5-6, 32. in the Harlingen Church Records, are the lists of Pew Purchases for the Sourlandt RDC. and they were simply divided into Men's Places and Women's Places, no children's section. Families were buying and selling places. for instance: Men's Places: Gerret Dorlant, sold to Benneman Setven 1 place in No. 1; or Simon Van Aerd sold to Johannes Van Pelt 1 place in No. 10. More often than not, men were also doing the buying and selling in Women's Places, although some women did purchase their own. In this case, since they were building a new Church, who got what initially, was determined by the amount of money suscribed by the individual members. In addition, Each man involved in building the church were permitted to choose two places for their trouble, one man's and one womans. Since the method used is quite lengthy I won't go into it here, but all the money from the sale of places went to pay for the building of the church. Judy Apr 25, 2011 09:11:33 PM, [email protected] wrote: =========================================== The records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Flatlands includes a page listing pew rents (FHL Film 888716 pg 105). It lists names, number of places and the amount of money paid. Does anyone know at what age parents started paying pew rents for their children? Thanks. Mike Morrissey ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The records of the Reformed Dutch Church of Flatlands includes a page listing pew rents (FHL Film 888716 pg 105). It lists names, number of places and the amount of money paid. Does anyone know at what age parents started paying pew rents for their children? Thanks. Mike Morrissey

John Kip, bp. 25 Apr 1705 NYC Ref Ch, son of Jacob/Jacobus Kip & (2) Cathalina de Hart, left a will -- [abstract] ...I, John Kip, of New York, merchant, being at present very sick. I leave to my brother, Henry Kip, of New York, sail maker, "all my right and interest in a tract of land situate at Rockey Forest, at the Great Pond, in Ulster County." All the rest of my estate I leave to my brother, Henry Kip, and my two sisters, Catalina, widow of Abraham Wendell, and Catharine, wife of Benjamin Moore. I make my brother, Henry Kip, executor. Dated September 5, 1772. Witnesses, Abraham Van Vleeck, John J. Kip, John H. Kip. Proved, May 10, 1776. ---Pelletreau, William S., Abstracts of Wills on File in the Surrogate’s Office, City of New York, pub. as Collections of the New York Historical Society, Vol. VIII, 1771-1776, pub. 1899, p. 339 (will of John Kip) Does anyone know if there were any corrections to this will abstract? I no longer have access to the Pelletreau will abstracts. My basic question is: were there two living daughters of Jacob/Jacobus Kip & (2) Cathalina de Hart named Catalina/Catharine/Catrina? One, I believe. as Catrina/Catalina Kip, m. Abraham Wendell and had children bp. at Second River Ref Ch (Belleville, NJ). The other, as Catharina Kip, m. 28 Jan 1750 NYC Ref Ch, Benjamin Moore. Can anyone help me sort out the family of Jacob.Jacobus Kip? Many thanks. Pat [email protected]

Hi Pat, The only correction shown is that the witness "John J. Kip" should be John T. Kip. I found the family of Jacob Kip and Cathalina de Hart in The Kip Family in America by Frederic E. Kip on p. 390 (family #383). This shows, by the say that Cathalina de Hart's mother was Cornelia Peters. And it shows that their children were John, Jacobus (dy), Jacobus, Catalina, William, Henry, Cornelia, Balthazar, and Benjamin. These same children are also shown in the will of Jacobus Kip in WNYHS vol 2, p. 351 (from Liber 10, p. 220) (One correction: date proved was Feb. not Jan.) The book also shows that Catalina m. Abraham Wendell and Cornelia (bp. Oct 18, 1721 , marr. Jan 28, 1750 Benjamin Moore) Both in the NY DRC. It makes sense that Jacobus would name a dau. Cornelia after his mother-in-law. She is shown as Cornelia in his will and in her baptism. She is unfortunately shown as Catharine in her brother's will and in her marriage. (That's assuming there isn't a real Catharine who marr. Benjamin Moore.) There is the abstract of the will of a Benjmin Moore in WNYHS, vol 13, pp. 28-29. Dated 1771, proved 1784. His wife is shown as Cornelia. The Abstracts of Wills is online here: http://ebooks.library.cornell.edu/n/nys//browse/author/n.html (scroll down to New York (Count) Surrogate's Court). Regards, Howard [email protected] ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat & Walter Wardell" <[email protected]> To: "Dutch-Colonies List" <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, April 25, 2011 9:05 AM Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] 1772 Will of John Kip John Kip, bp. 25 Apr 1705 NYC Ref Ch, son of Jacob/Jacobus Kip & (2) Cathalina de Hart, left a will -- [abstract] ...I, John Kip, of New York, merchant, being at present very sick. I leave to my brother, Henry Kip, of New York, sail maker, "all my right and interest in a tract of land situate at Rockey Forest, at the Great Pond, in Ulster County." All the rest of my estate I leave to my brother, Henry Kip, and my two sisters, Catalina, widow of Abraham Wendell, and Catharine, wife of Benjamin Moore. I make my brother, Henry Kip, executor. Dated September 5, 1772. Witnesses, Abraham Van Vleeck, John J. Kip, John H. Kip. Proved, May 10, 1776. ---Pelletreau, William S., Abstracts of Wills on File in the Surrogate’s Office, City of New York, pub. as Collections of the New York Historical Society, Vol. VIII, 1771-1776, pub. 1899, p. 339 (will of John Kip) Does anyone know if there were any corrections to this will abstract? I no longer have access to the Pelletreau will abstracts. My basic question is: were there two living daughters of Jacob/Jacobus Kip & (2) Cathalina de Hart named Catalina/Catharine/Catrina? One, I believe. as Catrina/Catalina Kip, m. Abraham Wendell and had children bp. at Second River Ref Ch (Belleville, NJ). The other, as Catharina Kip, m. 28 Jan 1750 NYC Ref Ch, Benjamin Moore. Can anyone help me sort out the family of Jacob.Jacobus Kip? Many thanks. Pat [email protected]

4/23/11 Can someone educate me? 1. Maria Elizabeth Morris (Isaac 5, Jacob 4, Issac3, Jury2, Jan1) was born 08 Dec 1796 in NYC and died unknown. She married (1) John Francis Van Iderstine/Eydestyne (1791--1824-5), had four children, (2) James Mexcey 26 Apr 1829 in NYC, lived at 41 Chapel St for years with each husband, and died as Elizabeth (Eliza) Mexcey, but buried where?, when? I have a photo of her. 2. Her son, Isaac Morris Van Iderstine (John Francis 6, Francois 5, Tadius C. 4, Casparus Michiels 3, Tades Michielszen 2, Michiel Tades1) was born Feb 1815 in (?) Lodi, N.J., died 29 Sep 1897 in Brooklyn, N.Y. He married (1) Mary Elizabeth Morris who was born ca 1816, died 24 May 1854, and is buried in Cypress Hills Cemetery, Brooklyn, N.Y. They had four children. He then married (2) Sarah Elizabeth Schroder 16 Feb 1859 in NYC. She was born ca 1830 in Peekskill or Newburg, N.Y., and died 2 Mar 1904 in Brooklyn, NY. They had four children. Death certificate says her mother was a DeGroot, but no first names of either parent were listed. Does anyone have information about the second Mary Elizabeth Morris or Sarah Elizabeth Schroder? Family, siblings, sources, etc.? Any help anywhere?? Thanks. Harry C. Miller, M.D.

Maybe someone who is familiar with the Elmendorf family can help me identify two men named Lucas Elmendorf born in Ulster Co. 1. Congressman and Judge Lucas Elmendorf was married 30 Jan 1797 at Trinity Church, NY to Ann Waddell, dau. of William Waddell & Geesje Filkins. They had 3 children baptized at Kingston Ref. Ch. - William H. 1798, Juliane 1800, Annette Magdalen 1803. He died 17 Aug 1843 and is buried at the Kingston Ref. Ch. His Congressional biography calls him Lucas Conrad Elmendorf and says he was born in 1758. 2. Lucas J. Elmendorf was married 20 July 1800 at Marbletown Ref. Ch. to Mary Frame (1774-1837), dau. of Samuel Frame & Mary Orr. No children known. He died 7 Feb 1832 and is buried at Marbletown Ref. Ch. Cem. (with his age recorded by Poucher @ 37y 10m 6d, which must be wrong). One of these men was baptized 8 Mar 1761 at Kingston Ref. Ch., son of Jonathan Elmendorf (1723-1798) & Lena Smedes. Any help appreciated. Jim

The attorney for the developer and the Planning Board attorney said "Make an offer!". The historic Zabriskie Tenant House at 273 Dunkerhook Road in Paramus, New Jersey, (20 miles from New York City) was built by the Zabriskie family ca.1786 and then lived in by the Bennett, Stewart and Sisco families, African Americans who were descendants of the Zabriskie's slaves. They built up a small community along Dunkerhook Road that lasted from about 1830-1930 and included a church. The only remaining buildings from this community are this house and one other. It is one of few remnants of early African American history of Bergen County. A developer has an application for a subdivision and seeks permission to demolish the house, which is on Paramus' landmark list and on the State and National Registers. At the third hearing on the matter, on April 7, the Planning Board stated that they will *only *deny permission for the demolition* if* someone makes a written offer for the property that meets or exceeds the developer's (unknown) contract price. * However, there is no mechanism to do so. The Planning Board wants to say they've done everything they can, but they haven't. * We need a land-use attorney and/or a buyer. And everyone needs to check the preservation ordinances in their community and establish or support an Historic Preservation Commission. (Paramus doesn't have one.) ANNOUNCEMENT: Opportunity to buy an historic house (on the National Register) in Paramus, New Jersey, (20 miles from New York City). However, 273 Dunkerhook Road is not exactly for sale. A developer has a contingency contract to buy the property and is asking permission to demolish the house. However, an offer before April 28, in writing, matching or exceeding the developer's (unknown) contract price, rescues this house from demolition and gets you a very nice place to live. So, if you have around $600,000-$700,000 (the contract price is rumored to be around the current assessed value of $662,200) and you want to live in an 18th century sandstone house with an 1850's addition it's worth investigating. Property is about 200' x 250' and has the house in question, a second house, a large garage, and a defunct pool, as well as large, beautiful trees, and backs onto a county park. The historic house has original sash in some of the windows, an original door, fireplace ready to be exposed and maybe used, original trim and is reported to be in excellent condition. Principle Parties: Paramus Planning Board, (201) 265-2100, x 620. Chairman: Martin Schwartz; Attorney: John Ten Hoeve. Attorney for the developer (Quattro IV LLC): Mark Sokolich (201-224-4000 ). Owner: Margaret Horton. None of these parties has authorized me to make this announcement. Check your wallet, hire a lawyer, and come to the Planning Board meeting on April 28 at 7 pm at Borough Hall, Paramus. Back Story: For a report of the latest Planning Board meeting see: http://paramus.patch.com/articles/attorney-for-developer-seeking-to-demolish-historic-dunkerhook-house-make-an-offer For information about the house and the fight to save it see: http://bergencountyhistory.org/forums/index.php/topic,1732.0.html and http://bergencountyhistory.org/forums/index.php/topic,2499.0.html Peggy W. Norris [email protected] PLEASE FORWARD THIS MESSAGE TO EVERY LIST WHERE FOLKS CARE ABOUT HOUSES AND PRESERVATION!

Carol: Thank you very much. I got what I wanted. Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX ________________________________ From: Carol Anne <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 4:12:36 PM Subject: Re: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ancestry.com Civil War Draft Transcription Ancestry.com The specific database is at http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1666&enc=1 I think they may be offering free access to this particular database for a limited time. I didn't pay much attention though, because I have a subscription. Carol Anne On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Bill Forshay <[email protected]> wrote: > Carol: > > What is the site for this info? > > Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carol Anne <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 2:35:23 PM > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ancestry.com Civil War Draft Transcription > > Warning! > > The draft registration seems to be very badly transcribed! Use your > imagination when searching for your ancestor! > > I was looking for Erwin (Ervin, Irwin, Irvin) Moberly, who was living > in Perry Township, Martin Co. IN. He was born in Tennessee. > > I know from experience that his surname can be spelled 100 different > ways, so I typed in mob* with the wild card to find all surnames > beginning with Mob, left the given name blank, and filled in Martin > Co., IN. Nothing. Then I removed the surname and went through all the > Martin Co., IN entries. Nothing. > > Then I just filled in the given name (tried Erwin first) and > "Indiana". I got a very strange looking result: > > Erwin Morbly, Percy Township, Castro Co., IN. Born in Pennsylvania. > > First of all there's no county in Indiana named Castro! > > When I looked at the actual image, it said Perry Township, not Percy, > and the other township names on the page I recognized as being in > Martin Co.. His place of birth read "Tenn", not "Penn". I finally > spotted the county name, but the binding was so tight only the last 3 > letters were visible, but how anybody got "Castro" out of it I don't > know! His surname was indeed written "Morbly", but I'm used to that > sort of thing. > > So be creative when searching, and if you get a strange result that > looks like it sort of fits, but it's all wrong, be sure to check out the actual > image anyway. > > Carol Anne > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jim Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> I've learned that all of most of my ancestors dodged the draft! I >> guess that says something in and of itself. Any idea how difficult >> that would have been to pull off? >> >> -Jim Miller > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >[email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ancestry.com The specific database is at http://search.ancestry.com/search/db.aspx?dbid=1666&enc=1 I think they may be offering free access to this particular database for a limited time. I didn't pay much attention though, because I have a subscription. Carol Anne On Sun, Apr 10, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Bill Forshay <[email protected]> wrote: > Carol: > >      What is the site for this info? > >                   Bill Forshay - San Antonio, TX > > > > > ________________________________ > From: Carol Anne <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Sun, April 10, 2011 2:35:23 PM > Subject: [DUTCH-COLONIES] Ancestry.com Civil War Draft Transcription > > Warning! > > The draft registration seems to be very badly transcribed! Use your > imagination when searching for your ancestor! > > I was looking for Erwin (Ervin, Irwin, Irvin)  Moberly, who was living > in Perry Township, Martin Co. IN. He was born in Tennessee. > > I know from experience that his surname can be spelled 100 different > ways, so I typed in mob* with the wild card to find all surnames > beginning with Mob, left the given name blank, and filled in Martin > Co., IN. Nothing. Then I removed the surname and went through all the > Martin Co., IN entries. Nothing. > > Then I just filled in the given name (tried Erwin first) and > "Indiana". I got a very strange looking result: > > Erwin Morbly, Percy Township, Castro Co., IN. Born in Pennsylvania. > > First of all there's no county in Indiana named Castro! > > When I looked at the actual image, it said Perry Township, not Percy, > and the other township names on the page I recognized as being in > Martin Co.. His place of birth read "Tenn", not "Penn". I finally > spotted the county name, but the binding was so tight only the last 3 > letters were visible, but how anybody got "Castro" out of it I don't > know! His surname was indeed written "Morbly", but I'm used to that > sort of thing. > > So be creative when searching, and if you get a strange result that > looks like it sort of fits, but it's all wrong, be sure to check out the actual > image anyway. > > Carol Anne > > > > On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jim Miller <[email protected]> wrote: >> I've learned that all of most of my ancestors dodged the draft! I >> guess that says something in and of itself. Any idea how difficult >> that would have been to pull off? >> >> -Jim Miller > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Warning! The draft registration seems to be very badly transcribed! Use your imagination when searching for your ancestor! I was looking for Erwin (Ervin, Irwin, Irvin) Moberly, who was living in Perry Township, Martin Co. IN. He was born in Tennessee. I know from experience that his surname can be spelled 100 different ways, so I typed in mob* with the wild card to find all surnames beginning with Mob, left the given name blank, and filled in Martin Co., IN. Nothing. Then I removed the surname and went through all the Martin Co., IN entries. Nothing. Then I just filled in the given name (tried Erwin first) and "Indiana". I got a very strange looking result: Erwin Morbly, Percy Township, Castro Co., IN. Born in Pennsylvania. First of all there's no county in Indiana named Castro! When I looked at the actual image, it said Perry Township, not Percy, and the other township names on the page I recognized as being in Martin Co.. His place of birth read "Tenn", not "Penn". I finally spotted the county name, but the binding was so tight only the last 3 letters were visible, but how anybody got "Castro" out of it I don't know! His surname was indeed written "Morbly", but I'm used to that sort of thing. So be creative when searching, and if you get a strange result that looks like it sort of fits, but it's all wrong, be sure to check out the actual image anyway. Carol Anne On Sat, Apr 9, 2011 at 2:09 PM, Jim Miller <[email protected]> wrote: > I've learned that all of most of my ancestors dodged the draft! I > guess that says something in and of itself. Any idea how difficult > that would have been to pull off? > > -Jim Miller