This is a Message Board Post that is gatewayed to this mailing list. Classification: Query Message Board URL: http://boards.ancestry.com/mbexec/msg/rw/mBU.2ACEB/20.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.1.3 Message Board Post: Scott: Your Thomas DURMAN is the same as mine. Here's what I have: Birth Certificate (Smyth Co. Courthouse, Marion, VA) says he was born 19Aug1813, son of John and Nancy DURMAN. (It is now fairly certain Nancy was Nancy Ann HARRIS, daughter of John HARRIS.) His first wife was Elizabeth Ann YEAROUT. Second wife was Malvina B. FARRIS (that wasn't her maiden name-she had been married to a FARRIS). Elizabeth's parents were Charles YEAROUT and Elizabeth ?. Your G-G-Grandmother, Mary Jane DURMAN, was indeed married to Maj. Wilson D. FARRIS. My G-Grandfather, William Franklin DURMAN, was a brother to your G-G-Grandmother, Mary Jane DURMAN. I have tentively figured out the following lineage for our line: 1) We both go back to Thomas A. DURMAN. 2) His father was John DURMAN (born 1787), proven by source document of birth record in Smyth Co. Courthouse. (Guess work from here on.) 3) John's parents were John DURMAN and Mary ?. 4) This older John was born about 1750. 5) My John DURMAN, born 1787, was brother to William Franklin DURMAN, Sr., Peter Durman, and Elizabeth DURMAN. 6) Darren DURMAN, with whom we have been communicating, descends from William Franklin DURMAN, Sr. But, we are really no better off than we were 15 years ago. I'm back one generation farther than I was back then and have added lots of siblings and present-day cousins -- who the Hell was John DURMAN born about 1750? Where did HE come from? We've scoured the records in Virginia. There is nothing on these DURMANs past John of 1750. My brother and I have come to the conclusion that the original DURMANs came from either PA or MD. We going to head up that way this fall and do some digging in those two states. We gotta find something sooner or later. BTW, my email address is georgewdurman@comcast.net. Would you please send what you have for Thomas on down to you in your line? You know, siblings, spouses, dates, places, etc. Whatever I have is yours for the asking. If you use a computer genealogy database program, I can export a GEDCOM with everything I have on the DURMAN line and email it to you. Just let me know. Yer Cuz, George W. Durman