I was just looking around on the web and have been doing geneology work on my dad's side of the family. I ran into a page that had Dormon in it..it was under the Durman part. If anyone knows anything about any Dormon's let me know because it's not a common last name at all. Thanks!

In order to attempt to cut down on the number of unnecessary emails on the various Lists I manage, I am forwarding a URL that will take you to a page at Rootsweb, where you can read about the "new" virus. From the Rootsweb page, you can link to Anti-Virus services of your choice to read the details. As usual, NO VIRUS WARNINGS ALLOWED ON THESE MAILING LISTS, unless posted by the Listowner. If you need to discuss this, please reply to my personal email address: Here is the COMPLETE "low-down" on the virus: IMPORTANT NOTICE: It has been learned that an email worm has been found circulating the web, one that arrives in an email purportedly from MessageMates.com. This worm file is in no way connected with MessageMates.com. If you have received an email with a message that reads: "he, your lame client cant read HTML, haha. click attachment to see some stunningly HOT stuff" or "http://stuart.messagemates.com/index.html Hypercool Happy Year 2000 funny programs and animations. We attached our recent animation from this site in our mail! Check it out!" Then you have been passed the Worm in question. It is a worm that was created and set loose by someone who is trying to spoil all of our Holiday fun. Do NOT run the attachment included in the email and please delete the email message immediately! That means, do NOT click on the attachment to see what it is!!!!! Also, navigate to the directory where attachments to your email are deposited, and delete the .exe file immediately. What is known about this Worm so far: 1. This worm has been named: W32.NewApt.Worm. 2. Once opened/launched, the worm will reply to a message residing in your In Mailbox, and will attach itself to this reply. 3. The file being passed as an attachment is approximately 68K. 4. The subject line of this message will vary, according to the subject of the email that it attaches to, and the From: address will be an email address from one of the emails sitting in your In-Box. 5. The attachment is no way related to any MessageMates.com products. What you can do: 1. Read the details of this worm virus by checking with McAfee at: http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/default2.asp, or by checking with Symantec at: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/index.html 2. If you receive a suspect email, with an .exe attachment, from someone, first email them back and confirm that they intended to send you a MessageMate. What we can tell you about MessageMates.com: 1. MessageMate's millions of loyal users are their number one priority and they are fully committed to providing software programs that are safe and fun. 2. MessageMate never sends out any unsolicited emails. 3. MessageMate never sends out attachments. 4. MessageMate's files are 100% safe when downloaded directly from their web site. *********************** NOTE FROM MESSAGEMATES: Please know that we at MessageMates.com have worked tirelessly to earn your trust and respect. We take great pride in our products and only want our users to have a positive and entertaining experience with them. Thank you for taking the time to read this very important notice. If you have any questions or comments, please send an email to: cheitmann@adtoolsinc.com Chris Heitmann Chief Operating Officer Carole Rohrings rohrbach@jnb.com ************************** Thanks, George W. Durman mailto:sgtgeorg@concentric.net ************************* List Administrator for the Following Surnames: ************************* BRILES BRILL BROYLES CULLOP DEARMAN DORMAN DURMAN GAROUTTE LOVETT LOVETTE WILHITE WILHOIT WILKINSON ************************* List Administrator for Related Lists: ************************* GERMANNA_COLONIES SURNAME-QUERY CFT-WIN ************************* BROYLES Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.broyles) CULLOP Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.cullop) DURMAN Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.durman) WILHITE Newsgroup Moderator (alt.family-names.wilhite) ************************* BROYLES/BRILES Family History Web Page & GERMANNA Information: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/index.html

I was asked by the folks at Rootsweb to host a new List, EUDORA-MAIL, which will be a help forum for those of you who use Eudora Lite or Eudora Pro. Just thought I would let all of you know about it, and that, if you use Eudora, you can join this List for help, if you need it. I will be sending a "tip" or "did you know" or "Eudora Secret" email every day or so. I am certainly not an "expert", nor a "guru", but have been using Eudora since the earliest version (latest version is 4.2). Hopefully, other Eudora users will join the List and help when new users have questions or problems. If you would like to join, just send an email to: EUDORA-MAIL-L-request@computers.rootsweb.com Subject: subscribe or Just type the same word in the body text. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN EUDORA-MAIL Listowner mailto:sgtgeorg@concentric.net

Is anyone researching the DUHRMANN family from Goeritz, Prussia 1830's to 1869? They moved to Watertown, Wisconsin 1869 to 1873 and finally Pleasant Valley, Mower Co., Minnesota 1873 to after 1900. Please contact me if you have or would like information regarding this family. 1. CARL LUDWIG WILHELM1 DUHRMANN was born 02 January 1832 in Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia, and died Bet. 1900 - 1908 in Pleasant Valley, Mower, Minnesota. He married EMILIE CAROLINE WILHELMINE BOETTCHER Abt. 1855 in Prussia. She was born 10 March 1837 in Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia, and died Bet. 1885 - 1895 in Pleasant Valley, Mower, Minnesota. Children of CARL DUHRMANN and EMILIE BOETTCHER are: i. MARIA BERTA ANTONIE2 DUHRMANN, b. Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia. ii. MARIA MAGDALENA BERTHA DUHRMANN, b. 11 June 1856, Goerritz bei Prenzlau, Brandenburg, Germany; d. 23 September 1930, Watertown, Jefferson Co., Wisconsin; m. CHRISTIAN FRIEDRICH STRAUSS, 17 December 1878, Watertown, Jefferson Co., Wisconsin. iii. ERNESTINE WILHELMINE CHRISTINE DUHRMANN, b. 15 November 1861, Goeritz, Prussia; m. OTTO PRICHE. 2. iv. ERNESTINE WILHELMINE AUGUSTA DUHRMAN, b. 27 January 1865, Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia; d. 10 February 1945, Warren Twp., Winona , Minnesota. 3. v. CARL FRIEDRICH WILHELM A. DUHRMAN, b. 15 September 1867, Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia. (The above all immigrated on the ship "Caroline" arriving New York 13 July 1869 from Hamburg) vi. ADOLPH DUHRMAN, b. January 1870, Wisconsin. 4. vii. LEONARD DUHRMAN, b. March 1874, Wisconsin. viii. LIZZIE DUHRMAN, b. October 1881, Minnesota. Generation No. 2 2. ERNESTINE WILHELMINE AUGUSTA2 DUHRMAN (CARL LUDWIG WILHELM1 DUHRMANN) was born 27 January 1865 in Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia, and died 10 February 1945 in Warren Twp., Winona , Minnesota. She married AUGUST GRIEBNOW 31 August 1889 in Racine, Mower, Minnesota, son of AUGUST GRIEBNOW. He was born 16 December 1856 in Germany, and died 14 April 1904 in Pleasant Valley, Mower, Minnesota. Children of ERNESTINE DUHRMAN and AUGUST GRIEBNOW are: i. LAURA3 GRIEBENOW, b. 13 June 1891; m. WILLIAM RUSSERT. ii. ERWIN GRIEBENOW, b. 08 September 1892, Mower County, Minnesota; d. 1975, Rochester, Olmstead, Minnesota; m. ELSIE BAULKIE. iii. ALMA GRIEBENOW, b. 06 January 1894; m. HOWARD BROOKS. iv. CARL LEONARD E. GRIEBENOW, b. 19 January 1897, Grand Meadow Homestead, Grand Meadow, Mower, Minnesota; d. 19 August 1981, Grand Meadow, Mower, Minnesota; m. CLARA AMELIA EWERT, 25 February 1920, Fred Ewert's Home, Pleasant Valley, Mower, Minnesota; b. 05 January 1900, Normal Twp., McLean, Illinois. v. WILLIAM H. GRIEBENOW, b. 17 June 1899; m. ELSIE LEE. vi. AUGUST H. GRIEBENOW, b. 22 January 1901; d. 1996; m. VERDA. 3. CARL FRIEDRICH WILHELM A.2 DUHRMAN (CARL LUDWIG WILHELM1 DUHRMANN) was born 15 September 1867 in Goeritz, Kreis Prenzlau, Prussia. He married MINNIE SYDOW // 11 January 1894 in Watertown, Jefferson Co., Wisconsin. She was born 1865 in Wisconsin. Children of CARL DUHRMAN and MINNIE // are: i. LEONA3 DUHRMAN, b. 1895. ii. DELLA DUHRMAN, b. 1897. iii. HARVEY DUHRMAN, b. January 1899. iv. OREY DUHRMAN, b. 1901. v. ELSIE DUHRMAN, b. 1905. 4. LEONARD2 DUHRMAN (CARL LUDWIG WILHELM1 DUHRMANN) was born March 1874 in Wisconsin. He married ANNIE 1903. She was born 1881 in Minnesota. Children of LEONARD DUHRMAN and ANNIE are: i. ALBERT3 DUHRMAN, b. 1904. ii. LLOYD DUHRMAN, b. February 1910. Note, Carl Ludwig Wilhelm "Willaim" Duhrmann probably had a sister Caroline Durhmann who married a Mueller and later a Fleischfresser. She was born in Goeritz and resided next door to "William" and Caroline and family in Watertown, Wisconsin. I have a little more informaiton regarding her family as well. Thanks, Cassandra Hanson

THIS IS NOT ADVERTISING !!!!! I am just passing on something that arrived tonight in the Weekly Shareware Dispatch. I have seen many queries on just about all the Lists I handle, asking about HTML programs and thought some of you might be interested in this one. I haven't looked at it yet, but am getting ready to download it and give it a trial run. ************************* EASY HTML WYSIWYG editors offer a totally visual solution for authoring Web sites, but they often provide more than you bargain for, producing meaningless HTML code and extraneous snippets. 1st Page 2000 is a powerful Web site and script editor that puts you in complete control of every HTML tag, so there's never a need to tidy your code. The program includes dozens of wizard-driven tag editors that can significantly reduce the time needed to create polished sites. You'll discover 450 Javascripts, VBScripts, and DHTML scripts, an HTML source compressor, and syntax highlighting. Most impressive is 1st Page 2000's help system, including an HTML reference guide, Server Side Includes documentation, and a Cascading Style Sheets manual. FACT FILE: Program name: 1st Page 2000 Version: 2.0 Size: 4.96MB Developed by: Evrsoft License: Freeware Requirements: Windows 95/98/NT Clean and simple code: http://www.shareware.com/DD/sw/0,156,0922-1-002,00.html ************************* SgtGeorge, Listowner

Lately, I have been asked, by several subscribers to the Mailing Lists which I manage, how to access past messages that have been posted on the various Lists. I am sending these instructions to all the Lists I manage. At the end of the instructions, you will find the URL's at Rootsweb for logging on to the various List Archives. **********(Instructions for Viewing Archives of Mailing Lists)********** You can go to Rootsweb and see all the previous messages for any Mailing List that the Listowner has set up for Archiving. (NOTE: If the Listowner has NOT taken the necessary steps to Archive the Lists, then you will NOT be able to retrieve past messages. I HAVE Archived all the Lists which I manage.) (Instructions: If you have never accessed the Archives before, you will have to click on the button to establish a Username and Password. Go through this process. (NOTE: The Username and Password you establish will be good for ALL Archives, regardless of the name of the Mailing List. You will have ONE Username and ONE Password at Rootsweb for searching ALL of the Archives). Once you have done this, you will be taken to a page that has an Index of all months for which the List has been archived. As an example, you might click on September, 1999. Then, another page will load. Unless you are searching for specific text in emails, click on the "Chronological Index". (More about searching for specific text below.) This will take you to a page, where all the emails for the chosen month are listed, with the most recent at the top. From there, you can start clicking on individual emails to read them. The "names" of the emails are just the subject lines. Following each subject, you will find (x). This tells you if there has been a followup to that subject. (0) indicates that there have been no replies. (2) indicates that there are 2 followups to that message. When you click on each individual email, at the very bottom, there are links to the followups, or replies, if any exist. You can read the followups by clicking on them.) Here are the URL's for the Lists I manage: (Please note the "case". The "LISTNAME-L" MUST be in CAPS.) http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BARREL-RACING-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BRILES-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BRILL-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/BROYLES-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CFT-WIN-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/CULLOP-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/DEARMAN-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/DORMAN-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/DURMAN-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GAROUTTE-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/LOVETT-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/LOVETTE-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WILHITE-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WILHOIT-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/WILKINSON-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/SURNAME-QUERY-L/ http://archiver.rootsweb.com/GERMANNA_COLONIES-L/ NOTE on searching for specific text in the Archives: (Using the URL's above, you can NOT search for messages containing ONLY, for example, "Reuben Wilhite". If you type in "Reuben Wilhite", you will get a list of all emails containing BOTH of those words, but NOT the phrase "Reuben Wilhite". (The quotation marks above, of course, are not to be typed in.) If you want to search the Archives to do SPECIFIC "Boolean" searches, you will have to access the "Mailing Lists -Interactive Search" at the URL below. In other words, if you want to search out emails that contain SPECIFICALLY the name "Reuben Wilhite", you will have to use this URL: http://searches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl This will open a page, where you type in the name of the List you wish to search. Here are the names you would type in to search the Lists I manage: BARREL-RACING BRILES BRILL BROYLES CFT-WIN CULLOP DEARMAN DORMAN DURMAN GAROUTTE LOVETT LOVETTE WILHITE WILHOIT WILKINSON SURNAME-QUERY GERMANNA_COLONIES Notice that in this search, you do not type in "-L". Let's use the WILHITE-L Mailing List again as an example: Once you have typed in (or pasted in) the URL immediately above, you would type in WILHITE in the "Name of List" box. Then, you go to a page where you type in your search query. (Another Note: You can choose the year in which you wish to search.) If you type in "Reuben Wilhite", you will get a list of emails that contain that exact phrase, "Reuben Wilhite". (The quotation marks are, of course, NOT typed in.) You can search for "Conrad Reuben Wilhite" and get a list of emails that contain that EXACT name. Another example: Let's search the List, GERMANNA_COLONIES. After following the instructions above, you type in "madison and spotswood and germanna". You find 12 messages that contain ALL of these three words. Another: Type in "spotswood and golden and horseshoe". You get a return of 7 messages in which all those 3 words appear. Type in "golden horseshoe" and you get 11 "hits" in which the exact phrase "golden horseshoe" appears, either in the subject line, or in the body text. Try "germanna and epidemic and child". You get two "hits". Type in "rapidan river" and you get 30 "hits". 30 emails containing the EXACT phrase "raidan river". If I have confused everyone (probably), let me know and I will try to explain all this convoluted and confusing process. I'm sorry that Rootsweb hasn't made it easier to access the archives and do specific text searches. That's just the way it is. In any case, you now have the URL's to start your search, or to access the Archives of past email messages to the various Lists. Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

I have a favor to ask of everyone on the Lists which I manage. Actually, it's not so much of a favor, as it is a reminder. As most of you know, I receive many databases in GEDCOM format from other researchers, GEDCOM's which I import into my database so that I can help others in their searches. Well, having done this for years now, I have finally gotten up the courage to "suggest" that many (most?) researchers are not aware of universally accepted standards for inputting dates and place events into a database. The dates usually don't present a problem, since my genealogy program translates just about any format (99%) of the time in to the proper format. Place names are an entirely different matter. It wouldn't be so bad if a researcher were CONSISTENT in putting in place names; however, many use different formats in the same database. Let me give you some examples: In one database, I might find: Schwiagern, Wurttemberg, Germany Schwiagern Schwiagern, Germany Schwiagern, Ger. Schwiagern, Wurt., Germany Now there is no reason why a researcher would use so many different ways to input the correct place name: Schwiagern,Württemberg,GER or Schwiagern,Wurttemberg,GER or Schwiagern,Wuerttemberg,GER Any of the 3 above would be correct; it's just that any reference to this place should be consistent throughout a database. For US places, the proper format is: City,County,ST Please note that there are no spaces after the commas and the state should be the official two-letter designation, in CAPS, for that state. e.g., Knoxville, Knox,TN (commas between the three parts, no spaces) Since this IS the accepted format, anyone looking at it cannot be confused. It is not: Knoxville, Knox County, Tennessee or Knoxville, Knox. Co., TN etc. One can look at the above and immediately and positively know what is meant. Now about unknowns in a "place" event. Examples of how to show unknowns for the above place: Knoxville,,TN (County is not known) ,Knox,TN (Town is not known) ,,TN (Neither Town nor County is known) Let's say that you see a "place" as this: Bedford, Ohio or Bedford, OH Is Bedford a town or a county? If a county, it should look like this: ,Bedford,OH If a town, it should look like this: Bedford,,OH I, as a researcher, and using my genealogy program, can, with a couple hours of work, correct the "place" errors; however, the date errors are another thing entirely. Want to guess how many ways researchers input dates into their databases? You don't want to know. Examples: 1/2/12 (is that 1 Feb. 1912, 1 Feb. 1812, 2 Jan. 1912, 2 Jan. 1812?) January 12 1918 12 January 1918 12 January, 1918 1-2-18 1-2-1918 etc., etc. See the confusion? The proper universal genealogy database standards is: 12 Jan 1918 No periods, no commas, the day always precedes the year, and the year is in 4 digits. (Day, Month, Year; makes sense) One other thing and I will quit. When inputting data in the fields for events, there are, in most programs, places for Date, Place, and Misc. Researchers put everything imaginable into the Place box, dates, comments, etc. Folks, the only thing that goes in to the Place box is the PLACE. It really looks bad when one does a printout of a database and sees "Born 16 Jan 1885, at (2nd child of the family)". I hope no one takes offense at this posting. I am not merely trying to make things easier on myself, I am trying to alert everyone that there IS a standard for such things. I don't know why the various genealogy database programs don't have, as the very first item in the "readme" files, a section on proper format. Beats me. Feel free to ask questions or make comments on this. The more exposure, the better. George Listowner

Periodically, on the Lists I manage, I run this announcement, due to the fact that many of our subscribers will be in the "newbie" category, here's a timely warning/reminder. Virus warning messages are from time to time sent to mailing lists by "newbies". ("Newbie" is not a derogatory term; it merely means that a subscriber/user is new to the Web/Net and Mailing Lists, and hasn't learned all the "ins and outs" yet.) This is directly against Rootsweb policy. PLEASE, if you get a Virus warning, pass it "off list" to me as List owner first. I will then deal with it according to the nature of the beastie. (My personal email address is: sgtgeorg@concentric.net) Here is a compilation of what some web sites have to say about viruses, and also provides an unbiased set of links to sites for anti-virus programs; sites explaining viruses, hoaxes, Trojans, etc.; and sites for descriptions of specific viruses, hoaxes, and Trojans. ********************************************************* Unfortunately viruses - and their distant cousin, Trojan Horse programs - are likely to become more of an issue as Internet connectivity spreads. Computer viruses are real. They do exist, and they can cause damage to your computer as well as the loss of data. While many computer and Internet users will never encounter a computer virus, this is fast becoming largely a matter of luck. In years past, computer viruses depended on human intervention to spread - users would unwittingly copy an infected file from a friend's floppy disk onto their computer. Because this limited the potential for propagation, virus outbreaks were generally pretty easy to contain. But now we have the Internet, which connects millions of computers around the globe. Infected files can be downloaded from Web sites, transmitted via email, posted to newsgroups, and passed on using "buddy" programs, like ICQ. All computer users should be proactive in protecting themselves against these "Net nasties". This means installing anti-virus software, and USING it to check all incoming program and data files, including email attachments. Most anti-virus programs will now automatically scan all files (whether copied from disk or over the Internet) for viruses and trojan horse programs. Users should also educate themselves about the risks involved, and what steps can be taken to minimize them. Please keep in mind that when you receive any kind of "warning", that an Email CAN NOT infect your system. An attachment to an Email CAN cause damage IF you execute ("run") the program file. If you receive an attached file to an Email, and that file has an extension of .exe, .com, .doc, etc., you should NEVER run that file before you have checked it out with your anti-virus program. As an example, users may receive HAPPY99.EXE as an attachment to an Email. No harm is done UNTIL the recipient activates HAPPY99.EXE; then all he/she sees is a very pretty fireworks display, meant to celebrate New Years of 1999. Unbeknownst to the user, when the fireworks were being displayed, the program contaminated his/her system. DON'T EVER RUN AN .EXE FILE RECEIVED AS AN ATTACHMENT, UNTIL YOU HAVE CHECKED IT OUT WITH AN ANTI-VIRUS PROGRAM !!!!! Anti-Virus Software Windows: Vet Anti-Virus - https://www.vet.com.au/html/shop/ or http://www.vet.com.au/ McAfee Virus Scan - http://www.mcafee.com Norton AntiVirus - http://www.symantec.com/nav/index.html PC-cillin - http://www.antivirus.com/pc-cillin/default.htm Antiviral Toolkit Pro - http://www.centralcommand.com F-Secure - http://www.data-fellows.com eSafe Protect - http://www.esafe.com Mac: Dr Solomon's Virex - http://www.drsolomon.com/products/virex/index.cfm Norton Anti-Virus for Mac - http://www.symantec.com/nav/nav_mac/ Virus Information: About Viruses - http://antivirus.about.com Virus Bulletin - http://www.virusbtn.com McAfee Virus Information Centre - http://www.mcafee.com/centers/anti-virus/ GeoCities/SiliconValley Antivirus Page - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3652/F.HTM Dept. of Energy Official Virus Site - http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/ Hoax "viruses", Trojans, Myths, etc.- ICSA Hoax List - http://www.icsa.net/services/consortia/anti-virus/alerthoax.shtml Lists of Myths, Hoaxes, etc. - http://www.spcug.org/hoax.htm Funny as well as serious, Urban Legends - http://www.snopes.com/ Alphabetized List of Virus Hoaxes and Descriptions - http://www.datafellows.fi/vir-info/index.htm#search Dept of Energy Official Site - http://ciac.llnl.gov/ciac/ Hoax Killer Site - http://www.hoaxkill.com/ Urban Legends and Hoaxes- http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blhoax.htm Virus Hoax Site - http://kumite.com/myths/home.html Miller Free Beer Hoax - http://www.millerbrewing.com/ Microsoft Email Hoax - http://www.microsoft.com/presspass/hoax/05-13hoax.htm Missing Child Hoax - http://snopes.simplenet.com/spoons/faxlore/missingkd.htm (There are hundreds more of these hoaxes, e.g., Sending business cards to a child for a new kidney, Sending email to a hospitalized child for free surgery, The Neiman Marcus "Chocolate Cake" hoax, "Stolen Kidneys" hoax, and so on.) Individual Recent "Warnings": PrettyPark Work Worm: http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/prettypark.worm.html BackDoor-G Trojan - http://www.avertlabs.com/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/va10182.asp Melissa Virus Help Center - http://www.download.com/DD/dl/0,302,0-0406-1-006,00.html Happy99.exe - http://members.tripod.com/docsmiley/happy99.htm Happy99.exe - http://beta.nai.com/public/datafiles/valerts/vinfo/w32ska.asp Happy99.exe - http://www.symantec.com/avcenter/venc/data/happy99.worm.html Happy99.exe - http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/ska.htm Happy99.exe - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3652/SKA.HTM Security Portal - http://securityportal.com One last word, if you receive a "warning" about a new Virus, Trojan, etc., that will blow out your monitor, explode your speakers, physically trash your hard drive, burn out your sound card or video card, etc., simply ignore it !!!!! Neither a Virus or a Trojan can cause PHYSICAL damage to your system. When you see an email with these dire warnings, you can rest assured it is a HOAX. There ARE some nasty viruses out there that attempt to do things to the BIOS on your system, but IF you use a good Anti-Virus program on your system, you will be safe. Use a program that runs in the background in Windows, one that you configure to check out EVERY file downloaded, whether via email or from a web site or FTP site. Also configure it to check EVERY executable file every time it is run on your system, and to check every file if it is modified, copied, or moved. It is your choice as to which program you prefer, but I have personally found that McAfee's Scan is the most reliable, uses fewer system resources and less memory than some other programs. Plus Scan has never caused conflicts on my system. Some of the other programs DO cause serious conflicts on SOME systems. IT'S YOUR CHOICE !!!!! ********************************************************* Regards, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

There has been so little correspondence on these Lists, I decided to ask for a Roll Call of users. How about sending a post and telling us who you are, what lines your are researching, dates, places, marriages, etc.? This will let us get to know one another, and how we fit into the family tree. Regards, Listowner SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

I have finally had time to process some old photos that were sent to me by various users, to include in the Photo Gallery and Old Photos on the web site. To be as brief as possible, I have added the following: Early 1900 Photos from New Hampshire and Maine. Coles Dining Room, China Lake, China, ME; China Lake, China, ME; A.M. Nason Residence, Monticello, ME; Boy Scout Cabin, Monticello, ME; The Woodbury Farm, taken 20 June 1920, could be in the Candia area of New Hampshire. These are scanned from old post cards in the possession of the sender, Bob. He would forward them to anyone who has a historical or genealogy interest in these areas. There is a clickable link to email Bob on the following page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/nh-me-photos.html OLD PHOTOS THAT NEED IDENTIFYING: (These are pictures that have been found in antique shops, old trunks, boxes, trunks, etc., and that need identifying so the present owners can get them to the rightful owners/heirs.) William B. Brittle, b.1837 in TN, d.1915 in Joplin,Jasper,MO. The owner of this photo is trying to find out if he is her Great-Grandfather. Any help is appreciated: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/brittlephotos.html The following photos were found in an antique store in Clovis, CA. The first one contains 6 children: Ettie Brookes, 13 years Clara Brookes, 9 years Fred Brookes, 7 years Mary Elliot Will Myers Harry Bryant (The names were written on the back of the photo.) Photo of mother and son. On the front it says, "Talbott, El Dorado Sps., MO." On the back it says, " 'Mit' Darby and son 1908 (or '10)." Photo of woman reading book. On the back it says, "Mary Ackerly, 1907." Anyone able to identify any of the 3 photos above, please contact the person who submitted them to me. There is a clickable email link to the owner of the photos, near the top of this page. The URL for these 3 photos is: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/oldphotos.html New Surname Photo Gallery, NIXON: Grandpa and Grandma NIXON from Lemars, Iowa. More NIXON pictures to be posted later. There is a clickable email link for the person who owns these pictures, on the following page: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/nixonphotos.html If anyone has old photos that need to be identified and placed with the rightful owners/heirs, you may scan them and send to me as attachments to email. I will process them and place on the appropriate web page. If you have personal family photos of Germanna family members or descendants, or of wills, deeds, land plats, etc., you can likewise have them posted on the web site. Contact me for details. 'Nuff for now, SgtGeorge Listowner

Tony, The LDS is now online. But be careful with some of these records. They are just information that people like you and I have submitted. No one at the LDS has checked or documented their work. Here's the url: <A HREF="http://32.96.111.13/default.asp">LDS</A> or http://32.96.111.13/default.asp Good Luck, Carmelita WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com Researching Andrew Jackson Dorman b. 1811 GA ------- In a message dated 99-07-14 16:57:40 EDT, you write: << Hi, Tony; You do need help, and I suggest your first stop be at the nearest Church of Latterday Saints, Genealogy Library. There should be one not too far from your home. There they have a computer and assistance to getting started. A file in their computer lists all the names in that have been researched not only by their members, but by many of us who are all welcome to use their library because what we find that is not already in their files, can be added IF WE choose to submit our findngs...and many many do because it is such a great source. There is also an online source, but when I checked for my background that I knew had been entered by a second cousin, I didn't find what I needed, so it doesn't all get to the computer source. I have no idea where you are, but the main library for the church is in Salt Lake, and it IS FANTASTIC. I've been doing this for some 40 years, and it is infectious as hobbies go. Blessings on your search, and one more thing...NO they do not pressure you to become a church member. Ellen >>

Hi, Tony; You do need help, and I suggest your first stop be at the nearest Church of Latterday Saints, Genealogy Library. There should be one not too far from your home. There they have a computer and assistance to getting started. A file in their computer lists all the names in that have been researched not only by their members, but by many of us who are all welcome to use their library because what we find that is not already in their files, can be added IF WE choose to submit our findngs...and many many do because it is such a great source. There is also an online source, but when I checked for my background that I knew had been entered by a second cousin, I didn't find what I needed, so it doesn't all get to the computer source. I have no idea where you are, but the main library for the church is in Salt Lake, and it IS FANTASTIC. I've been doing this for some 40 years, and it is infectious as hobbies go. Blessings on your search, and one more thing...NO they do not pressure you to become a church member. Ellen At 10:52 PM 7/13/99 -0400, you wrote: >To Whom It May Concern, > >Hello. My name is Tony Lee Durmon. I am a twenty-five year old Caucasian >male who is very interested in family history. I have absolutely no clue >as to what decent I belong. My paternal grandmother's maiden name is >"Thornell." Her mother's maiden name is "Reed." My mother's maiden name >is "Peninger," and her mother's maiden name was "Strickland." I also know >that her Mother's maiden name was "Harrold," although I'm not sure of the >spelling. I know very little about the descent of my mother's side of the >family. However, I've been able to trace my father's maternal >grandparents and great-grandparents back to Arkansas. (Alleene, Arkansas) >I know that my great, great grandfather's name was Will Reed. I have >visited the community cemetery in Alleene, Arkansas, and I also know that >my great, great, great grandfather is buried there, also I am not sure of >his name. > >In short, I need help! I am not sure what assistance you may be able to >offer, but any would be appreciated. Please let me know what obligations >I might incur from your assistance. I will be happy to fulfill any >requirements if you can be of some assistance. > >Thank You So Very Much, > >Tony Lee Durmon > > > Ellen Hokanson, 714 Wooding St. Aberdeen, Wa. 98520-3235 Phone 360-532-5387 e-mail ehokan@techline.com or ehokan@wishkah.techline.com If you cannot get rid of the family skeleton, you may as well make it dance" George Bernard Shaw

Don't forget that there is a Suite of Boards for the DURMAN surname on the GenConnect part of RootsWeb. They are another important tool for doing genealogy research. Mostly, these Boards are for posting queries (on the Query Board) that are of a long-time duration. The other Boards are all for posting more-or-less permanent data for others to read. Remember, the ONLY Board on which QUERIES may be posted is the Query Board. Post NO questions on the others. They are ONLY for posting data. (Please NOTE the "case" of these URL's. The case is important. CAPS and Non-CAPS must be exactly as given below.) QUERIES: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/Durman OBITUARIES: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DurmanObits BIOGRAPHIES: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DurmanBios WILLS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DurmanWill DEEDS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DurmanDeed BIBLE RECORDS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DurmanBibl PENSIONS: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~genbbs/genbbs.cgi/FamilyAssoc/DurmanPens If any of you have Obits, Wills, Deeds, etc., and would like to put them on the appropriate Board, please do so. With all the new Clusters being created at RootsWeb and all the exposure and advertising RootsWeb is receiving, we are having a tremendous increase in the number of new users at RootsWeb. If you haven'd done so, take a look at the new services, represented by what RootsWeb calls "Clusters". (When you go to the new Resources page, you will be able to access about 10,000 surnames. When you access one of these surnames, you will be taken to a page for it, and there you will find ALL of the places on RootsWeb where you can find information on the name. Give it a try. To try out the new service, go to: http://www.rootsweb.com And click on "Surname Resources" on the right side of the page. or Go directly to the new page at: http://resources.rootsweb.com/surnames/ Click on a letter of the alphabet, choose a surname, and take a look at the wondrous things that RootsWeb has done. SgtGeorge George W. Durman DURMAN List Administrator ***************************************************************** Check out the URL below for information on the GERMANNA COLONIES of Virginia: http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~george/index.html

SUPPORT ROOTSWEB NOW !!!!! (See end of email to find out how.) Did you know that Rootsweb is operated almost solely on USER DONATIONS? Did you know that Rootsweb is the ONLY major genealogy server that: Does NOT Charge monthly or yearly fees in order for you to use its services? Does NOT pay people to do the work necessary for databases to be put online? Depends on VOLUNTEERS to do the "grunt" work involved with transcribing historical documents, such as Census Records, Ships' Records, etc.? Did you know that Rootsweb: Is the MAJOR genealogy server on the Web/Internet? Handles more Mailing List email than any other genealogy server on the Internet? Has more daily "hits" than any other genealogy server on the Internet? Hosts more genealogy-related Web Sites than any other genealogy server on the Internet? IF YOU WERE UNAWARE OF THESE FACTS, IT'S TIME YOU CHECKED OUT ALL THE WONDERFUL SERVICES OFFERED BY ROOTSWEB !!!!! You get these services FREE OF CHARGE !!!!! How about contributing a little of that money you have squirreled away for "hard times"????? You can be a Rootsweb Supporter for as little as $12.00 per year; yes, that's $1.00 per month !!!!! To find out how, go here: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Now, as to the TANSTAAFL in the subject line. That stands for: "There Ain't No Such Thing As A Free Lunch." This acronym was coined by the late, great John W. Campbell, founder, and long-time editor, of ANALOG Science Fact and Fiction Magazine. It means that nothing is really free!!!!! Someone, somewhere pays for it. If YOU use Rootsweb, for any reason, free of charge, SOMEONE is paying for it; whether it is us Listowners, the 5% of users who DO provide support, or Brian and Karen, who started ROOTS-L, years ago before there was a Web or a real Internet. Again, if you have benefited from Rootsweb services, give some thought to providing a little support. We need it!!!!! Go to: http://www.rootsweb.com/rootsweb/how-to-subscribe.html Thanks, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Listowner

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To those who have been posting warnings about viruses, trojans, etc., to the Lists, please don't do it. There is an explicit warning in the Welcome Message about this. There are many other places for users to find out about viruses. Let's not get an off-topic thread started on this subject. Thanks, SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

Monroe Co GA will book 1835-1838 p. 124 list the will of Marcus Vandevier. In his will he mentiones his wife Martha. Also mentioned are Martha's sons by a Mr. DORMAN. Sons named are: Littleton P. Cullen Allen David J.P. Thomas Does anyone know who their father was? Carmelita WLWMEGAWAT@aol.com

DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL HERE TO THIS LIST !!!!! ------------------------------------------------ To All Subscribers: As you all know, I do NOT allow posting of Virus warnings, Trojan warnings, or "Worm" warnings on these Mailing Lists (since 99% of them are hoaxes); however, I must make an exception in this case! Before I go any farther, let me warn all of you NOT to reply to this email back to the Mailing List!!!!! There is really no reason to discuss the Trojan, as discussion won't solve anything. IF you have a question about it, please reply to me at my private email address, sgtgeorg@concentric.net and make sure that there are no List addresses in the TO: header. If there are any List addresses, they will end in "@rootsweb.com"; just delete them and type in sgtgeorg@concentric.net. Now, to the problem. A new Trojan (actually created on January 20th) entitled... HAPPY99.EXE is being rapidly spread and, many of us Listowners have already received it from subscribers who have sent us private/personal email. It is imperative you all be made aware of same, which is UNKNOWINGLY being spread as an attachment to e-mail Messages... even the sender does not realize it is being sent! I personally have received it twice, but had already been warned and did NOT execute the program. I just deleted the file from my Attachment directory. Don't worry about getting this Trojan from email on any of these Lists. RootsWeb, as you may well know, will NOT allow email with attachments to be posted to any Mailing List. Instead it sends such messages to us, the Listowners, and that is how some of us received the file. For benefit of those who don't know what a Trojan is, it's called that after the famous Trojan Horse of legend. It appears innocent and harmless, but when opened (executed or "run") it places files on your system without your knowing it. If you were to double-click on HAPPY99.EXE in Explorer, you would see a pretty little fireworks display, such as seen on New Year's Eve. After the display, the program then proceeds to put files on your system. If you receive an e-mail message from anyone with the attachment... HAPPY99.EXE ... do NOT attempt to "open" said attachment... it IS a "Trojan" or "Worm". Immediately delete the message AND the HAPPY99.EXE attachment. If you don't know where to look for the directory in which attachments are placed, just do a "FIND" from Windows and make note of the drive:\directory where any copies of HAPPY99.EXE are found. PLEASE do NOT post any follow-up message on this Mailing List; however, I encourage everyone to connect to the one of the following URLs for complete details... Symantec Anti-Virus Site - www.symantec.com/avcenter Hoax Killer Site - http://www.hoaxkill.com/ Urban Legends/Hoaxes - http://urbanlegends.miningco.com/library/blhoax.htm Happy99 - http://www.datafellows.com/v-descs/ska.htm Happy99 - http://www.geocities.com/SiliconValley/Heights/3652/SKA.HTM If you have already received the Trojan and run it, you should remember seeing the fireworks display. If you did that, your system is infected. It actually does no harm to the system, rather, it simply duplicates itself and attaches itself to any email you send to others; from those others, it does the same thing and spreads itself further. As I said, no harm is done to your system, but sooner or later, if it is spread all over the Internet, it could start clogging up ISPs (Internet Service Providers/Servers). It could get to the point where servers just can't handle the load of receiving and passing on maybe millions of copies of the file. By the way, its size is exactly 10,000 bytes. If you are infected, go to either of the last two URLs above. There you will find specific instructions on how to rid your system of the files created by Happy99. Just print out these instructions and follow the steps. DO NOT REPLY TO THIS EMAIL HERE TO THIS LIST !!!!! SgtGeorge George W. Durman Knoxville, TN

Subscribers, please forgive me for intruding, but I thought you should be made aware of the benefits of using Internet Relay Chat (IRC). This is an Internet feature that allows you to carry on "real-time" conversations with other genealogy researchers. If you don't find a channel below that covers your research interest, just join up and start a channel for your favorite SURNAME. This "new" (been around for a couple of years now) service is kind of like these Mailing Lists, except you are talking in "real-time" with others who are logged on at the same time that you are logged on. No waiting for email to upload and download. It's instantaneous! Give it a try. SgtGeorge (IF YOU NEED TO COMMENT ON THIS POST, SEND TO ME AT MY PERSONAL EMAIL ADDRESS. Do NOT reply back to the Lists!) **********(Forwarded Message)********** Greetings, We would like to announce a great source for genealogy research and were wondering if you would mind posting this where those researching their family trees could see it. Thanks in advance. Kenneth Dill Join Our GenealogyForum http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm If you have not yet taken advantage of using IRC (Internet Relay Chat) to help with your research, you are missing out on a GREAT resource! The Genealogy Channels on IRC are the Genealogy Societies of the CyberWorld. We share resources, do lookups for each other, help each other with our webpages, recommend helpful websites and have a wonderful time doing it! We designed our website with the NEW user in mind. You will find MUCH to help you get started! Things you will find on GenealogyForum's website: IMPORTANT NEWS FLASH! STRAIGHT TALK ABOUT IRC Late Breaking Genealogy News Everything You've Wanted to Know ..... But Were Afraid to Ask HOW TO JOIN IRC HOW TO USE MIRC Step by Step Instructions Step by Step Instructions Including AOL and WebTV LOOKUPS on #GENEALOGY FORUM LOOK FOR YOUR ANCESTORS Sharing Our Resources Searchable Index of Surnames of Our Guests GENEALOGY FOR KIDS 9 TO 90 #GENEALOGYFORUM How to Begin to Grow Your Tree Announcements and Our Agenda How to Write Your Family History OTHER GENEALOGY CHANNELS ON IRC Their Servers and Their Webpages You can even have your own channel for researching your special surname. Chat in real time with nice people who share your interest in Genealogy ! Some of the Channels your can find already formed on IRC's Afternet Network: #HudFam . . . #Gen-Adams . . #Gen-Cates . .#Gen-Dickey . #Gen-Dyess. . . #Gen-Etheridge. . #Gen-Gray . . #Gen-Hooks . .#Gen-Mathis . .#Gen-McCabe . #Gen-McGowan .#Gen-Robbins . #Gen-Stillwell. . #Gen-Thompson . .#Gen-Wilson #Gen-Worden . #OntarioGenWeb . . . #Genealogy-Dutch . . #Gen-Southern-Ohio . #Genealogy-Native . .#genealogie (Quebec) . #Gen-Georgia . .#Gen-NewEngland . . #Gen-North_Carolina . #CanadaGenWeb . . . . Feel free to email me at ctyankee@home.com if you need any further help or information. Ken -- Visit http://www.rare.on.ca/users/genealogyforum/index.htm to learn how to tap into great resource of genealogy information. ************************************** * Kenneth A. Dill * * Meriden, Conn. * * Huntley National Association #2440* * Spencer Hist/Gen. Society #1702 * * ctyankee@home.com * * ctyankee@bigfoot.com * * http://members.home.net/ctyankee * * ICQ number= 5097976 * * CtYankee nick on Afternet IRC * **************************************

Forwarded to all subscribers with permission of Cyndi Howells. This was written for the benefit of Listowners, but I thought that there is a lot of good advice here that should be considered by subscribers/users of these Lists. SgtGeorge Listowner **********Forwarded Message********** Hello all - Karen Isaacson and I have talked many times about how January effects our incoming e-mail flow. It is clearly a well-documented event now as we are already beginning to see it coming into play for the fourth-year running (since we first noted the phenomenon). I'm sure many of you will be seeing the same thing as List Owners and/or webmasters, so I thought I would pass on a bit of advice and food for thought. Each January we see a huge influx of newbies joining us online because Santa was generous and left a sparkling new computer under the tree. There are also many after-holidays sales which offer people the opportunity to purchase a snazzy new computer or modem. Many people get online for the first time and enthusiastically don their cyber-bikinis, hitting the surf with gusto. They are excited to be here and they are (much as we "oldbies" were) rightfully overwhelmed by all that there is to see and do. The language here is foreign to them. The technology is newer, fancier and zippier than they may have used in the past. And the way that we all participate in our giant, online genealogical society, while being very similar to offline groups, is still a bit different than they may be prepared for. In other words, it is a brave new world to them. I would like to put out a call to each of you to show these newbies that we are a friendly, welcoming and helpful group of online genealogists. To do so we all need to pitch in and show patience, understanding and kindness. We also need to put on our teaching caps and be prepared to show them the ropes. 1. Don't make assumptions. 2. Explain things in detail, include URLs and complete instructions. 3. Verify details and addresses before you send them to people. 4. Offer to help people privately via e-mail, off of the mailing lists. 5. Be prepared to explain things more than once, in more than one way. 6. Keep in mind that we were all new at one time. 7. Keep in mind that we all learn something new every day. There are several places online to which you can point newbies in order to help them learn about this new research venue. I have tried to make these easy to locate by setting up links on my site: Internet Stuff You Need To Know http://www.CyndisList.com/internet.htm Also be sure to point them to these basic starting places online: Cyndi's List of Genealogy Sites on the Internet http://www.CyndisList.com Your genealogical research portal onto the Internet RootsWeb http://www.RootsWeb.com See the RootsWeb Help Desk: http://cgi.rootsweb.com/~help/index.htm Genealogy Resources on the Internet - Mailing Lists http://users.aol.com/johnf14246/gen_mail.html USGenWeb http://www.USGenWeb.org Good luck and successful surfing to everyone online - both newbies and oldbies, Cyndi ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* Cyndi Howells Puyallup, Washington cyndihow@oz.net Cyndi's List - Over 39,400 links in over 90 categories! http://www.CyndisList.com My Book: "Netting Your Ancestors - Genealogical Research on the Internet" http://www.CyndisList.com/netting.htm