In a message dated 09/01/2007 22:55:35 GMT Standard Time, patriciahandy@btinternet.com writes: The farm is a plant nursery which took the name Havannah a couple of year ago. It's just a bit further down from Shaddens Hill near Springwell and Eighton Banks. It's actually too far over from where Havannah used to be. My cousin's grandparents lived in Havannah years ago and we used to walk from where we lived in High Usworth. _________________________________________________________________ Hi Patricia, If you go to http://www.tomorrows-history.com/ and look at the old maps, you will see that Havannah is shown at exactly the same place from the earliest map 1856-1865 up to today. The area you mention is called 'Black Fell' Regards Stan Mapstone