Hi Jenny I am not researching the Clementson's but have got a Hannah Ann Clementson who married my husbands g.grandfather. This is info from the 1881 census: Matthew Hedley age 33 living at 5 Front St Eggleston - Hannah wife age 34 - dora L. - age 4 - Jane A. age 6. Matthew Hedley b 1848 at Eggleston. m 1871 Hannah Ann Clementson b 1847 at Brampton (which I presume is in Cumbria) d 17/5/1914 at 13 Edward St. Bishop Auckland After the 1881 census they had two boys - Matthew George Hedley b 5.9.1881 at Valley Tce. Howden le Wear. Nth. Bedburn. and Ernest Clementson Hedley - have no info on him. Is this part of your Clementson family? Joan Sewell Cambridgeshire ----- Original Message ----- From: <dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 01, 2007 8:03 AM Subject: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to > DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. LOWERY / LOWREY (Diane Lowery) > 2. Datal worker (jarralad) > 3. Re: Datal worker (Carolgriff@aol.com) > 4. Re: Datal worker (Patrick Williams) > 5. Re: Datal worker (Stanmapstone@aol.com) > 6. Re: Datal worker (Stanmapstone@aol.com) > 7. Cheviot hills/Grasmere query (Autobyke@aol.com) > 8. Re: Datal worker (Carolgriff@aol.com) > 9. surname HETHERINGTON, BROWN Cross Dyke Allendale, CLEMENTSON > & STOBBS. (Jenny De Angelis) > 10. John & George GOTTS (Pat & Noel Upsall) > 11. Re: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 (Dr. C. Ralph Hayes) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 23:52:24 +1000 > From: "Diane Lowery" <geminidi19@rabbit.com.au> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY > To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003501c772d2$a5b723d0$6501a8c0@duron> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi Ian, > > Sorry but your LOWERY family is not connected to mine. Your dates don't > tie > in nor the areas of Newcastle or Hartlepool . All of mine come from Great > Lumley or Houghton le Spring. > > Wish I could help. > > Diane > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ian White" <iwhite99@rogers.com> > To: <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2007 11:48 AM > Subject: [DUR-NBL] LOWERY / LOWREY > > >> Diane Lowery posted a message about LOWERY in the 1871 >> census. Does she or anyone else have any connections >> to Robert LOWREY (1878 to 1910). Wife was Elizabeth >> (nee BULMER), and children were Robert (1907 to 1990) >> and Florence (1910 to 1989). The family was mainly >> associated with the Byker area of Newcastle, except >> Elizabeth who was from Hartlepool. There were other >> LOWERY / LOWREY families in or near Byker at about the >> same time, and I don't know whether or not they were >> related. Any information about any of them would be >> appreciated. >> Many Thanks, Ian White >> >> >> >> Member: British Isles Family History Society of Greater Ottawa, Canada. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:13:39 +0100 > From: "jarralad" <jarralad@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000c01c77374$df0f2220$4001a8c0@cosh> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Hi All, > Can anyone enlighten me as to the difference between a DATAL worker and a > FACE worker in the coal mines. > Kind Regards Terry > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 05:26:12 EDT > From: Carolgriff@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <be8.13906bbb.333f8334@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi > > My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- > when > he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just > paid by > the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id be > grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure > what > he means. > > carol > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 10:42:32 +0100 > From: "Patrick Williams" <pat.williams14@ukonline.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: <Carolgriff@aol.com>, <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000301c77378$e825a740$0500000a@userilzaxcqgl4> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" > > Hi Carol > > According to my Dictionary of old Trades, Titles and Occupations by Colin > Waters, a Dataller, dateller,Day labourer, Day Teller Day Tale man and > other > similar name is a Casual worker in various industries > > Regards > > Pat Williams > Bruton Somerset > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On >> Behalf Of Carolgriff@aol.com >> Sent: 31 March 2007 10:26 >> To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker >> >> Hi >> >> My dad is shown to be a datal worker on the durham mining museum site- > when >> he was 16 in 1947- he says its because they were treated as being just > paid by >> the day rather than the hewers etc who were constantly employed but Id >> be >> grateful if someone could give a better description as im not really sure > what >> he means. >> >> carol >> >> >> >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com >> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the >> body > of the message >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: > 30/03/2007 13:15 >> > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.23/740 - Release Date: > 30/03/2007 > 13:15 > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:38:38 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cc5.e052d59.333f942e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > O.E.D., day-taler, dataller, day + reckoning, 1530. Men employed on a > day-rate of pay, a 'byeworker'. 'datal-work', 'day work', 'day wage > work'. Any work > carried out which was not directly involved with the production of coal. > 'Contract work'. Work of a general nature. > > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 06:40:34 EDT > From: Stanmapstone@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d55.599809a.333f94a2@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Those below ground were mostly employed in constructional and repair > work, > timbering, roofing, laying roadways, clearing away debris, etc. > > > Regards Stan Mapstone > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:27:08 EDT > From: Autobyke@aol.com > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Cheviot hills/Grasmere query > To: eng-cumbria@rootsweb.com, > ENG-NBL-BERWICK-UPON-TWEED-L@rootsweb.com, > eng-westmorland@rootsweb.com, DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <cc3.c2d2925.333fbbac@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi folks, > I am trying to find birth details of Charles Hunt (maybe the name Henry is > also used). >>From his attestation papers, if the information he gave was true, he would > have been born on the 18 July 1833 and his parents would have been John > and > Ann. > Family story has be being born in the "Cheviot Hills", there is also a > belief that he had connections in the Grasmere area. He married Emily > Robinson > born 9 Sept 1851 in Grasmere. ( they married in Canada) > Charles worked in Canada as a Miner. > Anyone any ideas as to how I may make progress with finding his birth or > anything about his parents. Hope you can help...Regards...Shaun > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:36:03 EDT > From: Carolgriff@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Datal worker > To: Stanmapstone@aol.com, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <d59.5c0a851.333fd9e3@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Hi All > re datal worker- although not my query originally I appreciate the > replies > also. > > Stans description "Those below ground were mostly employed in > constructional and repair work, timbering, roofing, laying roadways, > clearing away > debris, etc." fits what my dad explained he did. > > He said he left svhool on the friday aged 14 and went for a job at the pit > where he started on the monday- for the first year you were above ground > then > went underground where you did various jobs till you were considered OK to > be > a hewer. > > Carol > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:19:42 +0200 > From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@telefonica.net> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] surname HETHERINGTON, BROWN Cross Dyke Allendale, > CLEMENTSON & STOBBS. > To: "DUR-NBL Mailing List" <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <010801c773d1$ef229a90$0301a8c0@portable> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I am researching the above surname because my Gt. Grandmother was Leah > HETHERINGTON born at Cross Dyke Allendale the daughter of Joseph > Hetherington and his wife Jane BROWN. > > Joseph and Jane married at Allendale in 1813 and lived at Coalcleugh to > begin with having 2 or 3 of their elder children born there. They then > loved to Cross Dyke, Carrshield area where the rest of their children were > born. Daughter Leah had a twin sister Lucy and they were baptised in 1833 > at West Allen High Chapel. > > Lucy eventually emigrated to Australia while Leah married first in 1856 to > Thomas CLEMENTSON a lead miner, they had two children William and Joseph > Albert. Thomas died in 1859 and Leah married again in June 1861 to John > STOBBS. Leah and JOhn Stobbs had two children John Thomas and Elizabeth > Jane. John died in 1868 and Leah married for the 3rd and last time later > that same year to Edwin HIRST of Yorkshire. They lived for a time in the > Middlesbrough area and had one children Annie. Then they moved to > Hartlepool where Edwin died in 1878. Leah died in 1903. > > I have been in touch with one line of descendants of Joseph Albert > Clementson and his wife Coatses Armstrong, and my father used to talk > about > his Auntie Lizzie and her husband George Sanderson. But I know nothing of > Leah's eldest son William Clementson and have lost him after the 1881 > census > entry for him and his wife Frances Dunning. > > I have been given the name of someone called Gordon, poss. Sanderson, by > a > cousin of mine who says I met Gordon in the 1950s when I was on a visit to > Co. Durham and my cousins and aunties there. Gordon was apparently either > a > son or grandson of Elizabeth Stobbs and her husband George Sanderson, I > think grandson is more likely, but I can find no trace of such a person. > I > would like to know who this person was. > > I have a fair bit of information on all of the people concerned in the > above > details and would like to hear from anyone else interested in any of the > above names. > > I have seen on genesreunited that someone else has an interest in > Hetheringtons at Cross Dyke but I do not subscribe to the site and > therefore > can get no further than searching the name index. But it shows that there > is someone out there that must match up with me in some way. > > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis > Spain. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sun, 1 Apr 2007 11:04:14 +1000 > From: "Pat & Noel Upsall" <npupsall@westnet.com.au> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] John & George GOTTS > To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00ab01c773f9$ab386800$6401a8c0@patebmdzpspmh1> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Hello all > > John & George GOTTS were 2 brothers who left Norfolk in the 1870s to find > work in the mines in the north of England. > > GEORGE married Ann (also called Annie) HOGG in 1878 (Gateshead Dist) and > they had a son, Robert William b.1879. George died in 1880 > > JOHN married Margaret Jane ALNWICK in 1874 (Gateshead Dist) and they had a > daughter, Mary Elizabeth (also known as Mary Lizzy) b.1879. Margaret died > soon after as on the 1881 Census for Ryton we find that Ann (widow) is > 'housekeeper' to John (widower). On the 1891 Census for Willington John & > Ann are shown as husband and wife (I haven't found details of a marriage) > with Robert & Mary plus two children of their own, Susannah b.1886 & John > Henry bc.1891. Ann died in 1895 and John in 1919 and both are buried at > Willington. > > Robert William GOTTS married Lilian Elizabeth O'CALLAGHAN in 1899 and I > know of one son - Robert Edward b.1900 > > Mary Lizzy GOTTS married Tom FOSTER in 1900 at Willington and on the free > BMDs I have found one daughter b.1913 - Doris. There may be other > children born before then, but I know Doris is a definite because Mary's > maiden surname of Gotts is shown. > > John Henry GOTTS married Susannah SAWLEY in 1912 and a son, John, was born > in 1913 - again confirmed by the mother's maiden surname on the free BMDs > > Susannah GOTTS married in 1909 either George HOUGHTON or Edward STOREY > > I would be pleased to hear from anyone who is connected to my two > gt.uncle's families and are able to fill in some more information for me. > > Many thanks - Pat from Tuross Head NSW Oz > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 11 > Date: Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:07:15 -0700 > From: "Dr. C. Ralph Hayes" <crhayes@andlau.com> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 113 > To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <460F2FF3.2090209@andlau.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > Thank you for that Stan. Which Directory is it that you're looking at? > > In fact, several years ago, it was you who shed light on the "sword > cane" I have, explaining its use by customs officials. Unfortunately, > the certainty of Samuel Hayes being a tailor, leaves me in a further > quandary about this cane that is dated 1849 and has his name and HM > Customs on it. Oh well, back to the records. There will be an answer to > this mystery somewhere. Thank you again Stan. > > Kind regards ... Ralph >> >> Message: 1 >> Date: Fri, 30 Mar 2007 03:39:58 EDT >> From: Stanmapstone@aol.com >> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Samuel Hayes >> To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com >> Message-ID: <cd9.dfcb852.333e18ce@aol.com> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" >> >> In a message dated 29/03/2007 16:29:16 GMT Daylight Time, >> crhayes@andlau.com >> writes: >> I have had one email from a subscriber who suggested that his >> occupation might be 'sailor' but, on checking the three originals I have >> access to, the word is clearly 'tailor'. >> ____________________________________________________________________ >> Hi Ralph, >> He is listed in the 1851 Directory as a Tailor, always worth double >> checking >> (:- )) >> >> Regards Stan Mapstone > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DUR-NBL mailing list, send an email to > DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body > of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 114 > *************************************** > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.5.446 / Virus Database: 268.18.24/741 - Release Date: > 31/03/2007 20:54 > >