Hi Net - "formerly Hope (or Cope, it's not clear!)." If the certificate is a copy it should be clear. Send it back and ask for a better/clarified copy. Cheers - Brian LEGG in Coventry, UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Net Ambler" <net.ambler@btinternet.com> To: "'DUR-NBL'" <DUR-NBL-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2007 8:02 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] John McKay - Baker > Dear Listers > I have received a copy of a birth certificate in the post today and I am > trying to find out a bit more information about the family. > > The certificate is for John Douglas McKay born on 7 Jan 1839 in what looks > like Grainger Street in the sub district of St Andrew in Newcastle upon > Tyne. > > His parents are John McKay and Elizabeth McKay formerly Hope (or Cope, > it's > not clear!). John senior is listed as a Baker. > > I'm trying to find their marriage or any other information about this > family. They are very elusive on the 1841 census and I've tried the LDS > site > for a marriage. Perhaps someone more experienced than me will have more > luck. > > > > Thanks in advance > > > > Net >