Hi Nivard, I downloaded an entry from the 1911 census for a family of mine in West Hartlepool yesterday. The ref. there has the following references about it. RG14PN29628, RD545 SD1 ED28 followed by the SN number for the family's schedule. Why do I not have the second RG & PN numbers such as you quote in the example you give in your message. I have a couple of entries from the Middlesex area that have 8 numbers in the reference, these include the two different RG & PN numbers such as you say they should have. The above W.Hartlepool entry only has the 6 numbers I quote here, I have double checked myself more than once over this numbering and there are only these 6 numbers. Why am I missing 2 numbers? I am puzzled. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. >>> Census references can be entered in any order, but the prefix (RG, PN, >>> RD > etc.) must be included. > Each reference should be separated by a space. For example: RG14 PN8600 > RG78 PN445 RD167 SD3 ED11 SN200 > A key to the references is below: > RG14 - this is the reference for household schedules. RG refers to the > Registrar General series of records held by The National Archives (TNA). > RG78 - is the reference for the enumerators' summary books. > PN - is the piece number within RG14 or RG78. > RD - is the Registration District number. > SD - is the Registration Sub District number. > ED - is the Enumeration District number. > SN - is the Schedule Number within RG14.<<

Hi Jenny I was going to suggest the same as Stan that the RG78 was missing for your location but that does not seem to be the case http://www.1911census.co.uk/content/default.aspx?r=24&98&77tadunit=58601fec&utm_source=aw_uk&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=gen Have you mailed the 1911 site to ask them, if anyone knows they should Sorry I cannot help as I haven't come across it except where an RG78 was missing Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > > I downloaded an entry from the 1911 census for a family of mine in West > Hartlepool yesterday. The ref. there has the following references about > it. > > RG14PN29628, RD545 SD1 ED28 followed by the SN number for the family's > schedule. > > Why do I not have the second RG & PN numbers such as you quote in the > example you give in your message. I have a couple of entries from the > Middlesex area that have 8 numbers in the reference, these include the two > different RG & PN numbers such as you say they should have. The above > W.Hartlepool entry only has the 6 numbers I quote here, I have double > checked myself more than once over this numbering and there are only these > 6 > numbers. Why am I missing 2 numbers? > > I am puzzled. > Regards > Jenny DeAngelis. > Spain.

Thanks Nivard, I haven't seen Stans message yet as I subscribe in Digest mode and the latest digest hasn't arrived here yet. I was about to write to the site about the missing reference numbers for that West Hartlepool entry but your message to the list giving details of the refs., came up before I got started on that messge to FMP. I thought I would reply to you if only to bring to the attention of others that some entries have errors in the reference numbers given on the site as well as spelling of names etc. One thing I do like about the 1911 entries is that the schedule has space for noting down the number of children that may have died in a given family. My grandparents had their children very widely spaced, 1897, 1908 and one on late 1911 because my grandfather was always working overseas for years at a time. I have always wondered whether they may have had other children in between those I knew of but that had died as infants. Apparently there were no other children as the relevant column is empty. Unless grandfather being away for long stretches of time was unaware that his wife had been left pregnant by him and that the baby died. Grandma might have forgotten to mention it to him on his return a few years after the event and he wouldn't know to ask about such children in order to put them on the census form. Sounds a bit odd to not tell her husband, but odd things happen in families at times dependant on circumstances. Regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain <<> I was going to suggest the same as Stan that the RG78 was missing for your > location but that does not seem to be the case > http://www.1911census.co.uk/content/default.aspx?r=24&98&77tadunit=58601fec&utm_source=aw_uk&utm_medium=affiliate&utm_campaign=gen > Have you mailed the 1911 site to ask them, if anyone knows they should>>

Hi Jenny Further to my last The RG78 for your ED28 should be RG 78/1718A according to the National Archives Catalogue Not sure it helps but perhaps you can ask the 1911 people whats become of it Best wishes Nivard Ovington, in Cornwall (UK) > Hi Nivard, > > I downloaded an entry from the 1911 census for a family of mine in West > Hartlepool yesterday. The ref. there has the following references about > it. > > RG14PN29628, RD545 SD1 ED28 followed by the SN number for the family's > schedule.

Brian Pears of the Northumbria list has just today announced that he has put a list of NBL & DUR Piece numbers and the Registration Disctricts they cover on the Genuki pages at this link. http://www.genuki.org.uk/big/eng/NBL/1911census.html This shows exactly what Nivard was telling me about the missing numbers should be that I have encountered. I thought this might help others who find themselves in the same situation. regards Jenny DeAngelis Spain. Nivard wrote <<> The RG78 for your ED28 should be RG 78/1718A according to the National > Archives Catalogue>>