Hello looking up a John william Murphy Born about 1857-65 Father James Murphy was a Mariner. All I have is a second marriage of John to a Mary Ann Telford who was also a widow her maiden name was Tulip , I cannot find his Birth . on his marriage Certificate he put down that he was born 1865 He married Dec 1909 lived at 28 Woodbine Street Sunderland as did Mary Ann but i can only find a John Murphy who.s Father as james and a Mariner , in 1861 Census as born 1857, I have been looking for a long time , I cannot find first Marriage or Birth . Can anyone Help Please They are from Sunderland or Monkwearmouth Shore , Both were Mariners Thank You Lesley .