Hi again, Wrong link it should be ..... http://www.dmm.org.uk Boris.  ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 'I never was in a gang of thieves; I never was guilty of any such thing in my life.' JAMES ATTERBY 29th April 1778, The Old Bailey. OLD ATTERBY GROUP.... http://groups.msn.com/AtterbyFamilyHistory NEW ATTERBY GROUP.... http://atterby.multiply.com/ http://atterby.tribalpages.com/ ----- Original Message ---- From: Boris Atterby <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009 7:59:50 AM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Mining Occupation or Joke? Hi, It was to do with the steel rope that went round and round a pit ''endlessly'' . The 'endless pony' lads or 'endless lads' had to hook the tubs of coal onto these and remove the empty ones as they past, so one could imagine you had to keep your wits around you! I'm sure the Durham Mining Museum website .........  http://www.dmm.org.uk/mindex.htm   will give a better account than mine and may have answers for others searching the 1911!! Regards, Boris.  ----------------------------------------------------------------------------