Has anyone ever heard a story, concerning a William Fairbairn Hall, who lived at Haswell Lodge, Haswell, Co Durham, that relates to his death in 1907? I was told that this chap, a mining engineer, had supposedly invented some kind of safety device for use in coal mines (he was a mining engineer). However, the story, as told to me, was that someone else claimed to have invented this 'device' and that this other person exacted revenge by shooting the aforementioned William Fairbairn Hall. Probate records indicate that he died 6 March 1907 and that he left effects of £41,760 after his death... a considerable sum of money in those days. I have come across nothing to date to link William Fairbairn Hall with the above story I'm sure that if the story is true, there will be something in the newspapers of the day. On the otherhand, there may be some truth in the story, but that William Fairbairn Hall was not the person who was murdered. I know that a visit to County Hall to check the newspapers of the day is in order, but it's not that easy when you're working full time and they only have one late evening a week. I was just hoping that someone subscribed to this list may have heard this story before and might save me a lot of trouble. I also understand that there is an obituary to Alderman William Fairbairn Hall in the Durham Directory for 1908. The entry refers to him living at Haswell Hall, although I think it has always been (and is today) Haswell Lodge. The directory entry records him as a mining agent and chief engineer to the Ryhope Coal Company. Any help or pointers will be very much appreciated. Kind regards... David Allan.

Hi David If you get the death certificate it will show the cause of death and if there was an inquest Nivard Ovington in Cornwall (UK) Has anyone ever heard a story, concerning a William Fairbairn Hall, who lived at Haswell Lodge, Haswell, Co Durham, that relates to his death in 1907? I was told that this chap, a mining engineer, had supposedly invented some kind of safety device for use in coal mines (he was a mining engineer). However, the story, as told to me, was that someone else claimed to have invented this 'device' and that this other person exacted revenge by shooting the aforementioned William Fairbairn Hall. Probate records indicate that he died 6 March 1907 and that he left effects of £41,760 after his death... a considerable sum of money in those days. I have come across nothing to date to link William Fairbairn Hall with the above story I'm sure that if the story is true, there will be something in the newspapers of the day. On the otherhand, there may be some truth in the story, but that William Fairbairn Hall was not the person who was murdered. I know that a visit to County Hall to check the newspapers of the day is in order, but it's not that easy when you're working full time and they only have one late evening a week. I was just hoping that someone subscribed to this list may have heard this story before and might save me a lot of trouble. I also understand that there is an obituary to Alderman William Fairbairn Hall in the Durham Directory for 1908. The entry refers to him living at Haswell Hall, although I think it has always been (and is today) Haswell Lodge. The directory entry records him as a mining agent and chief engineer to the Ryhope Coal Company. Any help or pointers will be very much appreciated. Kind regards... David Allan.

This was posted on the WWW in 2000 athttp://genforum.genealogy.com/hall/messages/10714.html "William Fairbairn Hall, colliery manager was shot by Henry Whittle on the platform of Haswell station in County Durham, England in 1884. If anyone is interested I have detailed info about this social injustice story. Anyone related?" Gen in NBL, England see: > From: davidm.allan@ntlworld.com > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:05:42 +0100 > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Was William Fairbairn Hall murdered? > > Has anyone ever heard a story, concerning a William Fairbairn Hall, who > lived at Haswell Lodge, Haswell, Co Durham, that relates to his death in > 1907? > > I was told that this chap, a mining engineer, had supposedly invented some > kind of safety device for use in coal mines (he was a mining engineer). > However, the story, as told to me, was that someone else claimed to have > invented this 'device' and that this other person exacted revenge by > shooting the aforementioned William Fairbairn Hall. > > Probate records indicate that he died 6 March 1907 and that he left effects > of £41,760 after his death... a considerable sum of money in those days. I > have come across nothing to date to link William Fairbairn Hall with the > above story > > I'm sure that if the story is true, there will be something in the > newspapers of the day. On the otherhand, there may be some truth in the > story, but that William Fairbairn Hall was not the person who was murdered. > > I know that a visit to County Hall to check the newspapers of the day is in > order, but it's not that easy when you're working full time and they only > have one late evening a week. I was just hoping that someone subscribed to > this list may have heard this story before and might save me a lot of > trouble. I also understand that there is an obituary to Alderman William > Fairbairn Hall in the Durham Directory for 1908. The entry refers to him > living at Haswell Hall, although I think it has always been (and is today) > Haswell Lodge. The directory entry records him as a mining agent and chief > engineer to the Ryhope Coal Company. > > Any help or pointers will be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards... David Allan. > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Same story as you heard at http://genforum.genealogy.com/whittle/messages/317.html "There was always a story in my family of an attempted murder by an ancester Henry Whittle. I have extracts from old newspapers saying that Henry invented a screw for a coal cutting machine but the colliery manager William fairbairn Hall stole the patent so Henry shot him as he got of the train at Haswell station. Hall lived but Henry Whittle hung himself in Durham jaol in 1884. Anyone else related? I have a lot of detailed info on this story." Gen in NBL, England From: genlistlass@hotmail.com To: Subject: RE: [DUR-NBL] Was William Fairbairn Hall murdered? Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:14:16 +0100 This was posted on the WWW in 2000 athttp://genforum.genealogy.com/hall/messages/10714.html "William Fairbairn Hall, colliery manager was shot by Henry Whittle on the platform of Haswell station in County Durham, England in 1884. If anyone is interested I have detailed info about this social injustice story. Anyone related?" Gen in NBL, England see: > From: davidm.allan@ntlworld.com > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2010 19:05:42 +0100 > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Was William Fairbairn Hall murdered? > > Has anyone ever heard a story, concerning a William Fairbairn Hall, who > lived at Haswell Lodge, Haswell, Co Durham, that relates to his death in > 1907? > > I was told that this chap, a mining engineer, had supposedly invented some > kind of safety device for use in coal mines (he was a mining engineer). > However, the story, as told to me, was that someone else claimed to have > invented this 'device' and that this other person exacted revenge by > shooting the aforementioned William Fairbairn Hall. > > Probate records indicate that he died 6 March 1907 and that he left effects > of £41,760 after his death... a considerable sum of money in those days. I > have come across nothing to date to link William Fairbairn Hall with the > above story > > I'm sure that if the story is true, there will be something in the > newspapers of the day. On the otherhand, there may be some truth in the > story, but that William Fairbairn Hall was not the person who was murdered. > > I know that a visit to County Hall to check the newspapers of the day is in > order, but it's not that easy when you're working full time and they only > have one late evening a week. I was just hoping that someone subscribed to > this list may have heard this story before and might save me a lot of > trouble. I also understand that there is an obituary to Alderman William > Fairbairn Hall in the Durham Directory for 1908. The entry refers to him > living at Haswell Hall, although I think it has always been (and is today) > Haswell Lodge. The directory entry records him as a mining agent and chief > engineer to the Ryhope Coal Company. > > Any help or pointers will be very much appreciated. > > Kind regards... David Allan. > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The only death registered for a William Fairbairn Hall is the one in March ¼ 1907, there is none in 1884 Stan Mapstone On 1 October 2010 19:14, gen listlass <genlistlass@hotmail.com> wrote: > > This was posted on the WWW in 2000 athttp:// > genforum.genealogy.com/hall/messages/10714.html > > "William Fairbairn Hall, colliery manager was shot by Henry Whittle on the > platform of Haswell station in County Durham, England in 1884. If anyone is > interested I have detailed info about this social injustice story. Anyone > related?" > > Gen in NBL, England > >

There is a report in The Leeds Mercury (Leeds, England), Monday, January 7, 1884; Issue 14273. The shooting was on the evening of Friday 4th January 1884, when William Fairbairn Hall was wounded by Henry Whittle, who alleged that he had been deprived of the invention of a coal cutting machine by Mr. Hall and a Mr. Lawes. Stan Mapstone On 1 October 2010 19:30, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > > The only death registered for a William Fairbairn Hall is the one in March ¼ 1907, there is none in 1884 > > Stan Mapstone > > On 1 October 2010 19:14, gen listlass <genlistlass@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >> This was posted on the WWW in 2000 athttp://genforum.genealogy.com/hall/messages/10714.html >> >> "William Fairbairn Hall, colliery manager was shot by Henry Whittle on the platform of Haswell station in County Durham, England in 1884. If anyone is interested I have detailed info about this social injustice story. Anyone related?" >> >> Gen in NBL, England >> >