Hi All, I am new to this list and research in this area. I recently found my gggrandmother's birth certificate indicating that Annie FENWICK was born on 27/12/1838 in Spring Garden, Westgate, Northumberland to Thomas FENWICK and Ann KEPPLE. A search of census records in Westagate in 1841 estimated his birth year as 1796 in Northumberland, and 1851 as 1793 in Morpeth. I could not locate a definite 1861 entry for him and according to his daughter's marriage cerificate in 1866 he was deceased. Most records found so far give his occupation as cartman although in the 1866 marriage certificate he was described as a Time keeper at Chemical Works (her deceased first husband also worked at a Chemical Works). Does anyone have access to records of birth from 1790s Morpeth or have ideas for narrowing down death records in Westgate in 1850s or 1860s. Annie FENWICK's first marriage certificate in 1858 does not indicate that Thomas FENWICK was deceased. She was married in the United Presbyterian Church at Cl? ing Place Chapel in Newcastle Upon Tyne. I don't know if others of the family were the same faith. According to the 1841 and 1851 census records Ann KEPPLE was born around 1801 in Northumberland or 1799 in Sadbury (Sudbury?). Anyone able to access records from this area? No obvious 1861 match and definitely deceased prior to 1866. Any help with identifying birth or death records for Annie's parents much appreciated. Thanks Michaela Hobart, Australia ------------------------------------------------------------ This email was sent from Netspace Webmail: http://www.netspace.net.au

Hello Michaela The LDS pilot site has the Durham/Northumberland BTs available on line. Go to www.http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start and from the lower left hand side of your screen just follow the leads. ie Search and Browse our Records All records Europe Browse collections scroll down to United Kingdom and you will find three relevant Durham/Northumberland choices. Scroll up and maybe the England and Wales Non Conformist records index will have something of interest to you. You will have a lot of pages to browse through but hopefully you will find what you are looking for. Good luck! Elizabeth Pugh Yukon Canada

Hi Michaela Been away for the weekend hence the delay in answering. I see the family on the 1841 census living in the back lane of Wellington St Westgate Newcastle, not far from Spring Garden Lane where they were in 1851Thomas Fenwick 45 cartmanAnn Fenwick 45Robert Fenwick 15 leather shaverMary Fenwick 12Anne Fenwick 2John Fenwick 4 MO All born in NBL ! Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece 824; Book: 7; Civil Parish: St John; County: Northumberland; Enumeration District: 1a; Folio: 29; Page: 10; Line: 14; GSU roll: 438887.Ann Kepple later indicated that she was born in Durham Sadberge but there are no marriages for Fenwick/Kepple on the durhamrecordsonline.com site or as I mentioned before on the Durham Marriages 1813-1837 CD or the Northumberland Marriages 1813-1837 CD.I suspect they were married in one of the many non-Conformist chapels in Newcastle and later re-married in the C of E to make it legal or vise versa. They couldn't marry legally in a non-Conformist chapel until 1838. But this is just a theory as they could have been married anywhere. Kepple is not an North East name and I suspect maybe it is a mangled version of something similar. Where did you get Kepple from?Another possibility is a Border marriage, couples sometimes married in one of the Border chapels especially if they were non-Conformist. The records for these are at Woodhorn archives. I could check these for you on Wednesday if you like. Gen in NBL, UK