Hello Ann, Some information on a likely John Wade sent off list, although the death is in 1849 and not 1844. It's certainly a possible and there is a death registered in the Jun qtr. 1849 for a John Wade at S.Shields Vol.24 Page 144. I couldn't find any death registered in 1844 in the area. Regards, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann" <annathamble@aol.com> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 > Good Morning everyone, > > > Lovely sunny morning here in Warwickshire, but very cold and very frosty! > And here I am as usual exercising my brain about Family History. > > > > I have found a number of relatives who were sailors, and just > disappeared in between censuses. > > > Thomas Rutherford b c 1790, of South Shields, disappeared after 1829. > His wife, Jane, had their last child in September 1829, He was a > shipwright. > > > This is an exception because I do know what happened:- > > Elizabeth Raffle married John Wade in 1844, and I know from a tombstone > that in 1844 he drowned in the River Tyne. He too was a shipwright. > > > I can't find the death of George/Thomas Ripppn, a sailor, who disappeared > between 1851 and 71. He was married to Ann Raffle. > (Ann Raffle married a second time to Robert Wilson, the widower of her > sister, Elizabeth, That took me by surprise, but as I can't find a > record for this perhaps they went to Newcastle for a day 1871 - 81 and > pretended they got married) According to the affinity tables such a > marriage is legal > > > > > And my last mystery with this this family is the disappearance of John > Brown, a sailor, between 1864 and 71. Hi wife was Margaret Raffle. > > > Is there a register of men lost at sea from Tyneside shipping. If a man > was lost at sea, was there a funeral, or memorial service, or a tombstone > ( as in the case of John Wade, who is mentioned on a Raffle tomb). Or any > memorial / list at all? > > > > Curious Ann Lavery > > > > > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is the burial for the John WADE in the email below - hope it helps St Hilda's Churchyard South Shields 18th April 1849 WADE John Aged 54 By coroners warrant Margaret Hall Wallsend www.margaret-hall-genealogy.com On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, r.smith45 <r.smith45@ntlworld.com> wrote: > Hello Ann, > > Some information on a likely John Wade sent off list, although the death is > in 1849 and not 1844. It's certainly a possible and there is a death > registered in the Jun qtr. 1849 for a John Wade at S.Shields Vol.24 Page > 144. I couldn't find any death registered in 1844 in the area. > > Regards, > Gillian > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Ann" <annathamble@aol.com> > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:02 AM > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 > > > > Good Morning everyone, > > > > > > Lovely sunny morning here in Warwickshire, but very cold and very frosty! > > And here I am as usual exercising my brain about Family History. > > > > > > > > I have found a number of relatives who were sailors, and just > > disappeared in between censuses. > > > > > > Thomas Rutherford b c 1790, of South Shields, disappeared after 1829. > > His wife, Jane, had their last child in September 1829, He was a > > shipwright. > > > > > > This is an exception because I do know what happened:- > > > > Elizabeth Raffle married John Wade in 1844, and I know from a tombstone > > that in 1844 he drowned in the River Tyne. He too was a shipwright. > > > > > > I can't find the death of George/Thomas Ripppn, a sailor, who > disappeared > > between 1851 and 71. He was married to Ann Raffle. > > (Ann Raffle married a second time to Robert Wilson, the widower of her > > sister, Elizabeth, That took me by surprise, but as I can't find a > > record for this perhaps they went to Newcastle for a day 1871 - 81 and > > pretended they got married) According to the affinity tables such a > > marriage is legal > > > > > > > > > > And my last mystery with this this family is the disappearance of John > > Brown, a sailor, between 1864 and 71. Hi wife was Margaret Raffle. > > > > > > Is there a register of men lost at sea from Tyneside shipping. If a man > > was lost at sea, was there a funeral, or memorial service, or a tombstone > > ( as in the case of John Wade, who is mentioned on a Raffle tomb). Or > any > > memorial / list at all? > > > > > > > > Curious Ann Lavery > > > >

Hi Margaret, This is strange. I looked at the Bishop's Transcript images on familysearch site for St. Hilda's and it clearly says that John was aged 29, same burial date. A big difference in the age!!! Regards, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Margaret Hall" <mgt.hall.17@gmail.com> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com>; "Ann" <annathamble@aol.com> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 7:21 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 > Here is the burial for the John WADE in the email below - hope it helps > > St Hilda's Churchyard South Shields > 18th April 1849 > WADE John > Aged 54 > By coroners warrant > > Margaret Hall > Wallsend > www.margaret-hall-genealogy.com > > > > On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 4:16 PM, r.smith45 <r.smith45@ntlworld.com> wrote: > >> Hello Ann, >> >> Some information on a likely John Wade sent off list, although the death >> is >> in 1849 and not 1844. It's certainly a possible and there is a death >> registered in the Jun qtr. 1849 for a John Wade at S.Shields Vol.24 Page >> 144. I couldn't find any death registered in 1844 in the area. >> >> Regards, >> Gillian >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Ann" <annathamble@aol.com> >> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Tuesday, March 08, 2011 8:02 AM >> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 30 >> >> >> > Good Morning everyone, >> > >> > >> > Lovely sunny morning here in Warwickshire, but very cold and very >> > frosty! >> > And here I am as usual exercising my brain about Family History. >> > >> > >> > >> > I have found a number of relatives who were sailors, and just >> > disappeared in between censuses. >> > >> > >> > Thomas Rutherford b c 1790, of South Shields, disappeared after 1829. >> > His wife, Jane, had their last child in September 1829, He was a >> > shipwright. >> > >> > >> > This is an exception because I do know what happened:- >> > >> > Elizabeth Raffle married John Wade in 1844, and I know from a >> > tombstone >> > that in 1844 he drowned in the River Tyne. He too was a shipwright. >> > >> > >> > I can't find the death of George/Thomas Ripppn, a sailor, who >> disappeared >> > between 1851 and 71. He was married to Ann Raffle. >> > (Ann Raffle married a second time to Robert Wilson, the widower of her >> > sister, Elizabeth, That took me by surprise, but as I can't find a >> > record for this perhaps they went to Newcastle for a day 1871 - 81 and >> > pretended they got married) According to the affinity tables such a >> > marriage is legal >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > And my last mystery with this this family is the disappearance of John >> > Brown, a sailor, between 1864 and 71. Hi wife was Margaret Raffle. >> > >> > >> > Is there a register of men lost at sea from Tyneside shipping. If a >> > man >> > was lost at sea, was there a funeral, or memorial service, or a >> > tombstone >> > ( as in the case of John Wade, who is mentioned on a Raffle tomb). Or >> any >> > memorial / list at all? >> > >> > >> > >> > Curious Ann Lavery >> > >> >> > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message