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    1. [DUR-NBL] Cemetery Consultation - Durham County Council
    2. Jan Boyes
    3. Hi, I've just read this on another family history forum, and thought I'd post it on here. I've completed the survey, as it involves cemeteries in Co Durham. Jan B Cemetery Consultation - Durham County Council Durham County Council have just started a cemetery policies consultation. As well as the usual things to consider there are also questions about charges for family history enquiries & part of the survey has questions about an online cemetery database (i've recommended they consider providing their registers to Deceased Online). I've also recommended that they allow all their cemetery registers to be microfilmed by the archives so people can search them free of charge. Five of the seven councils that became the unitary Durham County Council in April 2009 had responsibility for cemeteries. Out of the five, four already had their registers microfilmed by the archives. I & several other people have enquired if the registers for 17 cemeteries the remaining one old district council were responsible for were going to be made available at the archives to which the response has been no. I've also recommended that if they decide to 'pocket' memorials they record any inscription that will be lost. Would be grateful if fellow members would complete the survey. http://www.durham.gov.uk/Pages/Servi...ServiceId=8305 Bereavement Services: cemetery policies consultation We are responsible for 47 open cemeteries and 83 closed churchyards in County Durham. We're developing a set of policies to guide the way Durham County Council cemeteries are managed in the future. This consultation gives you the chance to have your say on the new policies. This consultation began on Tuesday 3 May and ends on Monday 25 July. How you can get involved You can have your say in the following ways. Use the online form below. Print off and complete the pdf form below and return it to the address at the bottom of the page. Call us on the contact number at the bottom of the page for a paper copy of the survey. Background information The policies consider the issues of cemetery capacity, unsafe headstones, kerb surrounds, adornments, municipal funerals, family searches and woodland burials. Five of the former district councils (Durham City, Wear Valley, Teesdale, Chester-le-Street and Derwentside) provided a burial service, each with its own local rules and regulations. Whilst local customs and practices have been respected since the formation of the unitary authority, there is a need to have a consistent approach in the way we manage all cemeteries. The proposed policies also apply to the management of closed churchyards in Easington and Sedgefield (town and parish councils are responsible for open cemeteries in these two areas). The last day to have your say on this consultation is Monday 25 July. Responses will be collated and a final policy will be considered by Durham County Council cabinet in the autumn.

    05/08/2011 02:23:37
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] South Shields Quarries?
    2. John Lynch
    3. Hence Marsden Rock! I'm terribly sorry -- I'll go and lie down. -- John Lynch -----Original Message----- From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Stan Mapstone Sent: 08 May 2011 09:36 To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] South Shields Quarries? There were also quarries at Marsden, with rail connections to South Shields. Stan On 8 May 2011 09:26, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > There were quarries at Cleadon > > Stan > > On 8 May 2011 08:50, Ann <annathamble@aol.com> wrote: >> >> I know there must have been quarries in the area, as the Romans built their wall, but where was quarrying going on in the 1800s?   I have  been to South Shields a number of times, but It appeared fairly flat! >> >> I have been looking at my husband's   RAFFLE family of South Shields  ( previously of Lamesley. and part of this family now at Penshaw). >> In the 1840, 50s, - most if the men were in Quarrying, some were Master quarrymen, and even the matriarch of the family,  who died in 1857, was described as a publican  ( Adam and Eve Pub)  and quarryman. >> >> >> So where were the quarries? >> >> >> Ann >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/08/2011 03:39:43
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] South Shields Quarries?
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. There were also quarries at Marsden, with rail connections to South Shields. Stan On 8 May 2011 09:26, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > There were quarries at Cleadon > > Stan > > On 8 May 2011 08:50, Ann <annathamble@aol.com> wrote: >> >> I know there must have been quarries in the area, as the Romans built their wall, but where was quarrying going on in the 1800s?   I have  been to South Shields a number of times, but It appeared fairly flat! >> >> I have been looking at my husband's   RAFFLE family of South Shields  ( previously of Lamesley. and part of this family now at Penshaw). >> In the 1840, 50s, - most if the men were in Quarrying, some were Master quarrymen, and even the matriarch of the family,  who died in 1857, was described as a publican  ( Adam and Eve Pub)  and quarryman. >> >> >> So where were the quarries? >> >> >> Ann >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >>  ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >

    05/08/2011 03:35:58
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] South Shields Quarries?
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. There were quarries at Cleadon Stan On 8 May 2011 08:50, Ann <annathamble@aol.com> wrote: > > I know there must have been quarries in the area, as the Romans built their wall, but where was quarrying going on in the 1800s?   I have  been to South Shields a number of times, but It appeared fairly flat! > > I have been looking at my husband's   RAFFLE family of South Shields  ( previously of Lamesley. and part of this family now at Penshaw). > In the 1840, 50s, - most if the men were in Quarrying, some were Master quarrymen, and even the matriarch of the family,  who died in 1857, was described as a publican  ( Adam and Eve Pub)  and quarryman. > > > So where were the quarries? > > > Ann > > > > > > > > > > > >  ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/08/2011 03:26:51
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] South Shields Quarries?
    2. Ann
    3. I know there must have been quarries in the area, as the Romans built their wall, but where was quarrying going on in the 1800s? I have been to South Shields a number of times, but It appeared fairly flat! I have been looking at my husband's RAFFLE family of South Shields ( previously of Lamesley. and part of this family now at Penshaw). In the 1840, 50s, - most if the men were in Quarrying, some were Master quarrymen, and even the matriarch of the family, who died in 1857, was described as a publican ( Adam and Eve Pub) and quarryman. So where were the quarries? Ann

    05/07/2011 09:50:06
    1. [DUR-NBL] Guild of One-Name Studies
    2. Rod Clayburn
    3. Dear List Manager, Please may we crave your indulgence for a quick message? Are you a Northumberland or Durham Resident? Possibly you know of the Guild of One-Name Studies, a registered charity, that encourages the study of family surnames? We would like to advise you that our next seminar will be held on at the Northumberland Museum and Archives, QE2 Country Park, Woodhorn, Ashington, Northumberland, NE63 9YF; starting at 09:30 a.m. on Saturday 21st May 2011. We are looking for people interested in Family History who live within a reasonable travelling distance of our next Guild seminar. If you live locally, perhaps you have already heard about this seminar? Perhaps you attended one or both of our previous, North-East area, Guild seminars in Sunderland, August 2005 and Durham, August 2008? Although the heading for the seminar topic is 'Mining', please do not take it to be the same subject matter that you may have heard previously. Rather, please treat this more as a Guild social event, where you can meet Guild members, have a chat, find out more as to what the Guild is all about and if interested, visit the Northumberland Archives. For those who are Internet savvy; the place to look for making a booking is: www.one-name.org/events.html For those who prefer to book by post; further information may be obtained by telephoning the Guild HelpDesk on 0800 011 2182, or by contacting the booking secretary. Email: seminar-booking@one-name.org Please support us in our endeavours - bringing the Guild to you. Thank you Rod Clayburn Secretary - Guild Seminar Sub-Committee

    05/03/2011 07:42:22
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] Ships of the 1840's
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. I was going to say that there were a large number of ships called "Prince Albert", which is not surprising, after his marriage to Queen Victoria. Shipping movements are shown in "The Times" digital archive, and the 19th Century newspapers on line, but, as expected, a search on Prince Albert brings up numerous articles on the real Prince. Just to add that steam ships were fueled by coal, not wood, and the Prince Albert I mentioned would not likely to have been an ocean going vessel. Stan On 3 May 2011 06:55, Mme_N_Carmichael <mme_n_carmichael@yahoo.ca> wrote: > Hello Mary, > > I see two Sunderland deaths in the newspapers which may be yours: > > 21 Sept. 1839, Jane Dove, 44, wife of Isaac Dove, master mariner and > 20 Feb. 1846, Sarah Dove, 73, relict of Isaac Dove, mariner > > But I didn't see where PRINCE ALBERT was headed in August 1844. > > There are 15 vessels named PRINCE ALBERT in 1844 edition of Lloyd's Register of Shipping, so she may not be the steamer that Stan has mentioned. > > A great many volumes of Lloyd's are searchable online and you can find links to them here: > http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html > > You can search through an indexed database of extracts from Lloyd's List (twice weekly merchant shipping newspaper) 1740-1837 here: > http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/lloydslist/ > > Even better, that newspaper is digitized and searchable up to 1826. The 1969 reprint by Kress Publishing of Lloyd's List for the late 18th and early 19th century has been digitized and made available for free at http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000549597 > > Lloyd's list is an invaluable aid, particularly when you are trying to locate particular details on a ship's voyage or captains career. It was published twice weekly, and was the authoritative source on all matters of shipping movements and intelligence. > > Regards, > Adi

    05/03/2011 03:33:22
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] Ships of the 1840's
    2. Mme_N_Carmichael
    3. Hello Mary,   I see two Sunderland deaths in the newspapers which may be yours:   21 Sept. 1839, Jane Dove, 44, wife of Isaac Dove, master mariner and 20 Feb. 1846, Sarah Dove, 73, relict of Isaac Dove, mariner   But I didn't see where PRINCE ALBERT was headed in August 1844.   There are 15 vessels named PRINCE ALBERT in 1844 edition of Lloyd's Register of Shipping, so she may not be the steamer that Stan has mentioned.   A great many volumes of Lloyd's are searchable online and you can find links to them here: http://www.maritimearchives.co.uk/lloyds-register.html   You can search through an indexed database of extracts from Lloyd's List (twice weekly merchant shipping newspaper) 1740-1837 here: http://www.cityoflondon.gov.uk/lloydslist/   Even better, that newspaper is digitized and searchable up to 1826. The 1969 reprint by Kress Publishing of Lloyd's List for the late 18th and early 19th century has been digitized and made available for free at http://catalog.hathitrust.org/Record/000549597 Lloyd's list is an invaluable aid, particularly when you are trying to locate particular details on a ship's voyage or captains career. It was published twice weekly, and was the authoritative source on all matters of shipping movements and intelligence. Regards, Adi --- On Sun, 5/1/11, Mary Kitzerow <marimac@molalla.net> wrote: My ggggrandfather, Isaac Dove, b. 1793 Sunderland, was listed in a book " Aged Seaman (or Mariner) Home.  That on August 6, 1844, he was "seized and paralized" and set off at Plymouth.  He was on the "Prince Albert," from Sunderland to ???? can't read that one word!  He was 51 at the time.  Is there a way to find out about the "Prince Albert"?  Other places he was listed as a Master Mariner, but don't know if he ever captained a ship.  Believe his father, Isaac Dove, b. 1765 captained the "Williams Adventure" in 1794, the Endeavor" in 1794, the "Mary & Ann" in 1790, "The William" in 1799 and the "Vintage" in 1801. Is there a way to find out anything about where these ships went?  Thanks, Mary Kitzerow marimac@molalla.net www.marymckenziekitzerow.com

    05/02/2011 04:55:26
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] [ENG-DURHAM-YORKS] Brancepeth, Durham: HARLAND-DEIGHTON
    2. r.smith45
    3. Hi Howard, Although the dates are out there is a John Harland sailed from the port of Stockton, Durham in the week 19-26 April 1774 on the ship Mary to Halifax, Nova Scotia. John was said to be a Shopkeeper, aged 30 and going to seek better employment. All the passengers are said to be from Durham but could possibly just be the port they sailed from. The information is on both Ancestry and the Immigrants Ships website. Regards, Gillian ----- Original Message ----- From: "Howard Speck" <howards@infionline.net> To: "Cecilia Bell" <bell193@btinternet.com> Cc: "England Durham Yorkshire mail list" <ENG-DURHAM-YORKS@rootsweb.com>; "England Durham mail list" <ENG-DURHAM-L@rootsweb.com>; "Durham Northumberland mail list" <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, May 01, 2011 6:59 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] [ENG-DURHAM-YORKS] Brancepeth,Durham: HARLAND-DEIGHTON > Cecilia, > I am definitely NOT certain that my John HARLAND was born in Brancepeth. > I have searched Philadelphia documentation and UK records that have come > online over nearly 20 years, with NO evidence of a connection to my JH. > Over that time I have collected several of England's births and/or > baptisms > for John HARLANDs (including Rosedale, New Malton, Kirby-Overblow, > Hinderwell, Great Driffield, and Whitby) who appear to have entered the > world during or near the year 1753, but none were referenced to have > emigrated to the States, and none of the others seemed to have a DEIGHTON > connection. I hold 3 two-inch volumes of document copies for the HARLAND > family of Philadelphia, but none of them tells me his exact birthdate, > exact date of emigration, the name of his ship, the names of his parents, > or his parish of birth in England. But thank you for your interest and > response. > > Howard > > <Howard, > You don't say why you are so certain that your John HARLAND is from > Brancepeth, Co. Durham. > HARLAND is a fairly common name, particularly in North Yorkshire as well > as > Durham, and especially folks with the name of John HARLAND. > A search on Ancestry reveals the surname all over the country. You only > say that the tombstone says that John HARLAND was a native of England. Do > you have any other information to back up your suggestion that your John > is > from the parish you mention? > > Worshipping in Episcopalian churches would be a fairly logical progression > for someone who had previously worshipped in the Church of England. > > Regards, > Cecilia in Essex UK > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/02/2011 07:15:02
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] Ships of the 1840's
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. The paddle steamer Price Albert [155ft x 19.5ft] was built by John Henry Sangster Coutts in his Low Walker yard on the Tyne, it was launched 24th September 1842. Stan On 1 May 2011 17:16, Mary Kitzerow <marimac@molalla.net> wrote: > Hi everyone, > > My ggggrandfather, Isaac Dove, b. 1793 Sunderland, was listed in a book " Aged Seaman (or Mariner) Home.  That on August 6, 1844, he was "seized and paralized" and set off at Plymouth.  He was on the "Prince Albert," from Sunderland to ???? can't read that one word!  He was 51 at the time.  Is there a way to find out about the "Prince Albert"? > > Other places he was listed as a Master Mariner, but don't know if he ever captained a ship. > > Believe his father, Isaac Dove, b. 1765 captained the "Williams Adventure" in 1794, the Endeavor" in 1794, the "Mary & Ann" in 1790, "The William" in 1799 and the "Vintage" in 1801. > > Is there a way to find out anything about where these ships went?  Thanks, > > Mary Kitzerow > marimac@molalla.net > www.marymckenziekitzerow.com >  ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    05/01/2011 01:24:53
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] [ENG-DURHAM-YORKS] Brancepeth, Durham: HARLAND-DEIGHTON
    2. Howard Speck
    3. Cecilia, I am definitely NOT certain that my John HARLAND was born in Brancepeth. I have searched Philadelphia documentation and UK records that have come online over nearly 20 years, with NO evidence of a connection to my JH. Over that time I have collected several of England's births and/or baptisms for John HARLANDs (including Rosedale, New Malton, Kirby-Overblow, Hinderwell, Great Driffield, and Whitby) who appear to have entered the world during or near the year 1753, but none were referenced to have emigrated to the States, and none of the others seemed to have a DEIGHTON connection. I hold 3 two-inch volumes of document copies for the HARLAND family of Philadelphia, but none of them tells me his exact birthdate, exact date of emigration, the name of his ship, the names of his parents, or his parish of birth in England. But thank you for your interest and response. Howard <Howard, You don't say why you are so certain that your John HARLAND is from Brancepeth, Co. Durham. HARLAND is a fairly common name, particularly in North Yorkshire as well as Durham, and especially folks with the name of John HARLAND. A search on Ancestry reveals the surname all over the country. You only say that the tombstone says that John HARLAND was a native of England. Do you have any other information to back up your suggestion that your John is from the parish you mention? Worshipping in Episcopalian churches would be a fairly logical progression for someone who had previously worshipped in the Church of England. Regards, Cecilia in Essex UK

    05/01/2011 07:59:43
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 6, Issue 56
    2. Ann
    3. Does anyone know when Familysearch expects to have the will images on line from the NE Inheritance database? The database itself is a great resource, but I am wondering how long I will have to wait to see the will copies! If the time scale is lengthy, I will just have to go to Durham to look! Ann

    05/01/2011 05:31:18
    1. [DUR-NBL] Ships of the 1840's
    2. Mary Kitzerow
    3. Hi everyone, My ggggrandfather, Isaac Dove, b. 1793 Sunderland, was listed in a book " Aged Seaman (or Mariner) Home. That on August 6, 1844, he was "seized and paralized" and set off at Plymouth. He was on the "Prince Albert," from Sunderland to ???? can't read that one word! He was 51 at the time. Is there a way to find out about the "Prince Albert"? Other places he was listed as a Master Mariner, but don't know if he ever captained a ship. Believe his father, Isaac Dove, b. 1765 captained the "Williams Adventure" in 1794, the Endeavor" in 1794, the "Mary & Ann" in 1790, "The William" in 1799 and the "Vintage" in 1801. Is there a way to find out anything about where these ships went? Thanks, Mary Kitzerow marimac@molalla.net www.marymckenziekitzerow.com

    05/01/2011 03:16:28
    1. [DUR-NBL] Brancepeth, Durham: HARLAND-DEIGHTON
    2. John Ayton
    3. Hi Howard, yes Thomas Harland married Hannnah Deighton in 8th june 1745 at Brancepeth and you can view the marriage bond on the LDS beta site. The bond states that Thomas Harland was a farmer of Brancepeth and was aged 26 and up. His wife Hannah Deighton was a spinster aged 21 and up and was from the parish of Stanhope. There is a baptism of a Hannah Deighton on the 12th Aug 1724 at Staindrop to a William and Margaret Deighton. It is common even now in the North Eastern counties for children to have their mother's maiden name as a forename and it then is used through subsequent generations. I hope this helps yours John Ayton From: howards@infionline.net To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 22:56:12 -0400 Subject: [DUR-NBL] Brancepeth, Durham: HARLAND-DEIGHTON Listers, I am seeking research advice concerning the surname of HARLAND in the Durham county parish of Brancepeth. I have an emigrant ancestor, named John HARLAND, who came to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1779 or 1780, and lived out his life there. He was buried at St. Peter’s Churchyard in Philadelphia, with a tombstone reading, “A Native of England, who departed this life January 3rd, 1828, aged 74 years.” This would make his year of birth most likely 1753. He was originally known as a “woolen draper” by trade; and he worshipped only in Episcopalian churches while here in the USA. The name “DEIGHTON” appears that it may be important for tracking John HARLAND’s roots in the UK. John had a son, a grandson, and a great, great grandson, all named “Edward Deighton HARLAND! While recently viewing films from the LDS Family History Center, another family has sparked my curiosity: in 1845, Thomas HARLAND (“HARLING” in some records), of Brancepeth married Hannah DEIGHTON. In 1753, according to Brancepeth’s baptismal records, this marriage produced a son named John HARLAND. But the dark side of my research is that a John HARLAND aged 41 years, again according to Brancepeth parish records, was buried on 24 May, 1794 (which would make his birth year either 1752 or 1753). The dilemma is that no one can be buried in two different places. But the mother’s maiden name of DEIGHTON and the baptismal year of 1753 for a son John seem to be too much to just scrap all this as a mere coincidence. Naturally, I would like to determine, with certainty, if these two families have a direct connection or not. Specifically, I need to learn (1) Did Hannah DEIGHTON marry John HARLAND or HARLING? (2) Was the 41 year old John HARLAND buried at Brancepeth the son of John HARLAND (or HARLING) and Hannah DEIGHTON or a different set of parents? And (3) did John & Hannah’s son John emigrate to the “States” about 1780? I would appreciate receiving opinions on who, probably in the UK, could most likely help me take that next step in my research. Howard Speck howards@infionline.net EarthLink Revolves Around You. ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

    05/01/2011 02:25:25
    1. [DUR-NBL] Brancepeth, Durham: HARLAND-DEIGHTON
    2. Howard Speck
    3. Listers, I am seeking research advice concerning the surname of HARLAND in the Durham county parish of Brancepeth. I have an emigrant ancestor, named John HARLAND, who came to Philadelphia, Pennsylvania in 1779 or 1780, and lived out his life there. He was buried at St. Peter�s Churchyard in Philadelphia, with a tombstone reading, �A Native of England, who departed this life January 3rd, 1828, aged 74 years.� This would make his year of birth most likely 1753. He was originally known as a �woolen draper� by trade; and he worshipped only in Episcopalian churches while here in the USA. The name �DEIGHTON� appears that it may be important for tracking John HARLAND�s roots in the UK. John had a son, a grandson, and a great, great grandson, all named �Edward Deighton HARLAND! While recently viewing films from the LDS Family History Center, another family has sparked my curiosity: in 1845, Thomas HARLAND (�HARLING� in some records), of Brancepeth married Hannah DEIGHTON. In 1753, according to Brancepeth�s baptismal records, this marriage produced a son named John HARLAND. But the dark side of my research is that a John HARLAND aged 41 years, again according to Brancepeth parish records, was buried on 24 May, 1794 (which would make his birth year either 1752 or 1753). The dilemma is that no one can be buried in two different places. But the mother�s maiden name of DEIGHTON and the baptismal year of 1753 for a son John seem to be too much to just scrap all this as a mere coincidence. Naturally, I would like to determine, with certainty, if these two families have a direct connection or not. Specifically, I need to learn (1) Did Hannah DEIGHTON marry John HARLAND or HARLING? (2) Was the 41 year old John HARLAND buried at Brancepeth the son of John HARLAND (or HARLING) and Hannah DEIGHTON or a different set of parents? And (3) did John & Hannah�s son John emigrate to the �States� about 1780? I would appreciate receiving opinions on who, probably in the UK, could most likely help me take that next step in my research. Howard Speck howards@infionline.net EarthLink Revolves Around You.

    04/30/2011 04:56:12
    1. [DUR-NBL] Master Mariner Walter JOSS
    2. Mme_N_Carmichael
    3. Hello List,   'Way back in March, 2006, Peg?/Al? Dixon posted to this list about her?/his? 2GG Walter JOSS. http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/th/read/DUR-NBL/2006-03/1142812077   If she/he is still a member here and still looking, perhaps she/he will post again. I have a little bit about mariners named Joss sailing from Shields.   Regards, Adi

    04/25/2011 08:55:58
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] FTM 16
    2. Stan Mapstone
    3. You mean GEDCOM. If you go to http://freespace.virgin.net/guy.etchells/ under "Useful Software" there is a GEDCOM Viewer, that can be downloaded. Stan On 25 April 2011 09:01, Bob <relder@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > Hello > I am using FTM 16 for my family tree a cousin has asked for a copy of her side of the tree. > > She does not have FTM 16 I'm I correct in thinking I could send her a GEM?? copy & she will be able to download a program off the net to open it? > > Thank you > > Bob >  ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/25/2011 03:32:41
    1. [DUR-NBL] FTM 16
    2. Bob
    3. Hello I am using FTM 16 for my family tree a cousin has asked for a copy of her side of the tree. She does not have FTM 16 I'm I correct in thinking I could send her a GEM?? copy & she will be able to download a program off the net to open it? Thank you Bob

    04/25/2011 03:01:57
    1. [DUR-NBL] Newcastle Newspapers
    2. Gwyneth Watson User
    3. Many thanks for the help re accessing the above, I¹ve now registered for both the State & National Libraries. Cheers Gwyneth

    04/23/2011 07:20:40
    1. Re: [DUR-NBL] Certificate
    2. Acorn Cottage
    3. Er....isn't that a Register Office? :-) Ruth > -----Original Message----- > From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Peter Atkinson > Sent: 22 April 2011 09:43 > To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Certificate > > Hello Bob, > > Just to clarify: Newcastle upon Tyne is a city and Gateshead > is a town. each have their own registry offices. > > Peter > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stan Mapstone" <stanmapstone@gmail.com> > To: "Bob" <relder@tiscali.co.uk> > Cc: "DUR-NBL" <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, April 20, 2011 9:14 AM > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Certificate > > > > For Gateshead see http://online.gateshead.gov.uk/bmd/ > > Stan > > On 20 April 2011 09:11, Stan Mapstone <stanmapstone@gmail.com> wrote: > > See http://www.newcastle.gov.uk/core.nsf/a/dfcdeathshistorical > > > > Stan > > > > On 20 April 2011 09:00, Bob <relder@tiscali.co.uk> wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> Where we I go to get a certificate for someone born in > Newcastle, is it > >> Newcastle it's self or Gateshead. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> Bob > >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > >> To Post a message to this list send it to, > >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > >> > >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > >> List Web Page > >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > >> > >> ------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >> DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the > >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >> > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' > without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

    04/22/2011 04:04:19