Hi Stan Just looked on Genuki and found this;- Havannah Colliery, Hazlerigg A drift mine. Location:- (Sheet 88) NZ217718, 55° 2' 25" N, 1° 39' 37" W, 5.5 miles [9 Km] NNW of Newcastle. No idea if there is a village of the same name near it. Jan In a message dated 09/01/2007 14:11:40 GMT Standard Time, markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com writes: Just looked on Durham CRO website, at the place names index, and it suggests that Havannah is near to Washington. The nearest church to Havannah is Holy Trinity, Washington. ____________________________________________________________ Hi Jan, Yes , I saw that one but I can't find it on any map, and apparently there is a Havanah near Kyo which I can't find either. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi Stan, Just looked on Durham CRO website, at the place names index, and it suggests that Havannah is near to Washington. The nearest church to Havannah is Holy Trinity, Washington. Jan Does anyone know where Havannah was in County Durham? Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 09/01/2007 14:50:37 GMT Standard Time, markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com writes: Havannah Colliery, Hazlerigg A drift mine. Location:- (Sheet 88) NZ217718, 55° 2' 25" N, 1° 39' 37" W, 5.5 miles [9 Km] NNW of Newcastle. _________________________________________________ Hi Jan, This Havan(n)ah is in County Durham, not Northumberland Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 09/01/2007 14:52:00 GMT Standard Time, ovington1@btconnect.com writes: Hi Stan >From http://www.old-maps.co.uk Grid Ref: 428592,557458 _________________________________________________________ Hi Nivard, Thank you for that, no wonder it is difficult to find, it appears to be just a farmhouse. Now where is the Havanah near Kyo? Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 09/01/2007 14:11:40 GMT Standard Time, markandjanboyes@ntlworld.com writes: Just looked on Durham CRO website, at the place names index, and it suggests that Havannah is near to Washington. The nearest church to Havannah is Holy Trinity, Washington. ____________________________________________________________ Hi Jan, Yes , I saw that one but I can't find it on any map, and apparently there is a Havanah near Kyo which I can't find either. Regards Stan Mapstone

Does anyone know where Havannah was in County Durham? Regards Stan Mapstone

During my visit to relatives in NSW, I read my digests by "Webmail". This shows the digest as a single message, without the need to bring up each message in turn. I found it convenient. The Sheffield list has recently changed format to give the same form on ordinary email access. Would it be worth changing this list's format? John Fisher Tewantin QLD

Hello All More of my research names but mainly Sunderland area this time. LIDDLE Joseph born Sunderland late 1780's LIDDLE Edmund born Sunderland abt 1821 LIDDLE Elizabeth Jane born Sunderland abt 1855 GORDON Richard born abt 1790 GORDON Richard born Sunderland abt 1815 GORDON William born Seaham Harbour 1852 GORDON Edmund Liddle born Sunderland 1882 COLE John George Born West Herrington abt 1816 COLE Thomas born Sunderland abt 1862 COLE Lilian born Sunderland 1885 PAISLEY Robert born before 1790 PAISLEY Margaret born Sunderland abt 1815 BEATY Ann born before 1790 WILSON Isabella born abt 1789 THOMPSON Margaret born West Herrington abt 1824 DOWELL Margaret Jane born Sunderland abt 1863 YOUNGHUSBAND Mary Jane born Sunderland abt 1834 ROBSON Ann born abt 1796 SCOTT Ann born abt 1819 regards Heather Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello Tony Sending a copy of my reply to the list as it may be of interest to other members. Thomas PATTERSON born abt 1775 and married Agnes BOWMAKER 10 February 1795 at Alnwick Northumberland. Margaret PATTERSON daughter of Thomas and Agnes also born Alnwick 1806/7 and married Thomas DOWELL 3 September 1827 Newcastle, St Nicholas. regards Heather Tony Patterson <tonypatt1951@hotmail.com> wrote: Can you give me any more details on the two Patterson entries Thanks --------------------------------- From: Heather <heatherachere@yahoo.co.uk> To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com Subject: [DUR-NBL] COLE/THOMPSON/BOWMAKER/CLARK/GREY/PATTERSON/DOWELL Date: Mon, 8 Jan 2007 14:23:04 +0000 (GMT) >Hello all > > Just rejoined the list after a few years away and thought I would post my interests. > > Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello all Just rejoined the list after a few years away and thought I would post my interests. COLE John George Born West Herrington abt 1816 THOMPSON Margaret Born West Herrington abt 1824 BOWMAKER Alnwick late 1600's to late 1700's CLARK Agnes (father Thomas?) Born Wakrworth abt 1695 GREY Dorothey Born Alnwick abt mid 1700's PATTERSON Thomas Born Alnwick abt 1775 PATTERSON Margaret Born Alnwick abt 1807 DOWELL Thomas Born Newcastle abt 1832 More from Sunderland area but will post those another day, regards Heather Send instant messages to your online friends http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com

Hello All, I'm just reposting my interests, they are: Pearson's from Pelton and Chester-Le-St, co Durham from about 1810 to1832. Pearson's from Waterhouses, Esh Winning and Ushaw Moor,Co Durham from about 1860 to 1950's. Loftus from Durham City from about 1850 to 1950's Lovegreen's from Sunderland and Durham from about 1815 to 1950's Hayes from Brandon from about 1900's. Priddy from about 1890's ? Fitzpatrick's from Sunderland and co Durham 1832 to 1950's. Cairns from Newcastle about 1860 and Waterhouses, Co Durham 1885. Bowes from Winston Or Newsham,Co Durham from about 1850's. Simpson's from Newcastle Upon Tyne about 1850's and Waterhouses & Tow Law from about 1874. McGAHEY from Brancepeth & Crook & Waterhouses Co Durham about 1855. Barker's from Bishop Middleham,Co Durham from about 1860's Would love to hear from any others researching the same names. Thank you..........Joanne

In a message dated 08/01/2007 09:45:49 GMT Standard Time, zen34780@zen.co.uk writes: At, or soon after, the time of the census were copies of the details transcribed (perhaps locally) or was the Government just interested in "numbers" rather than names? ____________________________________________________________________________ The details from the Household Schedules were copied by the enumerator into the enumeration books, which are what you see on Ancestry and other sites. The Household Schedules were destroyed. The Enumerators Books were sent to the Census Office in London for the extraction of statistics which were then published. The censuses were carried out for statistical purposes and not for future family historians (: - )) Regards Stan Mapstone

Ditto to Margaret, I reported missing pages on the 1851 Allendale parish census over a year ago, with no response or corrections to date, so they may be waiting until the public has hashed through all the districts to find the problems before they address a second go-round? The scary part is that I would not have know of the omission unless a cousin had mentioned that they had found the individual that I was looking for on the census through another census source. Now I always check for missing pages. :) Mention has been made of other problems with the census transcriptions, but I still commend Ancestry.com for taking the plunge and putting them online. A wonderful resource for sure. Cheers, Laurel Nattress ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ian Thirlwell" <dur.nbl.fh@ntlworld.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 10:05 AM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1861 census incomplete pages Houghton-le-Spring > Margaret, > I shouldn't hold your breath waiting for this problem to be corrected. > Nearly a year ago I reported missing pages in the 1851 census for > Newcastle All Saints (pages 1 to 37 missing in district 2h). There were > a couple of follow-ups, but the pages are still missing on Ancestry. I > found the information I wanted elsewhere as the pages do exist, though > some folio numbers are not very clear. > Cheers, > Ian > > Mgt Fuller wrote: >> I have now reported pages 18,27,31,33,35,38,40,44,and 54 (with their >> folio >> numbers) are missing from district 4f >> >> Margaret. > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello everyone I am seeking a Mrs Elizabeth MILLER, born 1869 in Jarrow. In the 1901 census she is in Grimsby with her 1-month old son Edward - the father of the baby is my step-grandfather Mark Turnbull (born Mark Langford in South Shields). Mark and Elizabeth had 2 more sons and lived in Great Yarmouth until she died in 1915. They never married - presumably because she was already married. Has anyone come across a missing Mrs Miller around this time? Any clues welcome! Jill Jill Turner

Dear Dur-NBL-l listers Please is there any one researching Clarkes in Gateshead from 1846. Regards Harold

Margaret, I shouldn't hold your breath waiting for this problem to be corrected. Nearly a year ago I reported missing pages in the 1851 census for Newcastle All Saints (pages 1 to 37 missing in district 2h). There were a couple of follow-ups, but the pages are still missing on Ancestry. I found the information I wanted elsewhere as the pages do exist, though some folio numbers are not very clear. Cheers, Ian Mgt Fuller wrote: > I have now reported pages 18,27,31,33,35,38,40,44,and 54 (with their folio > numbers) are missing from district 4f > > Margaret.

Hi Julia, It's about 7 miles SW of Norham - just follow the river! Grid Reference NT798383 Regards Dale Utterson Derbyshire UK ----- Original Message ----- From: "julia robinson" <julia.rob4@ntlworld.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2007 4:48 PM Subject: [DUR-NBL] Location of Carham > Hi > I have found memorial inscription for my Davison family of Norham, one of > the children died in Carham, can anyone tell me where this is please. > Kind Regards > Julia > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi I have found memorial inscription for my Davison family of Norham, one of the children died in Carham, can anyone tell me where this is please. Kind Regards Julia

I have now reported pages 18,27,31,33,35,38,40,44,and 54 (with their folio numbers) are missing from district 4f Margaret. ---------------------------------------- -----Original Message----- From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Mgt Fuller Sent: 07 January 2007 13:50 To: John Palmer; DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1861 census incomplete pages Houghton-le-Spring I also did a check on the Houghton le Spring districts and found four images missing in District 3. In district 4f the last page in the box is 47 however the number of the last page is 56 - NINE images missing. I will look for the other seven missing images and report them to ancestry. Ancestry will have the missing images and I am sure they will add them to the site once they know of the problem. Margaret.

I also did a check on the Houghton le Spring districts and found four images missing in District 3. In district 4f the last page in the box is 47 however the number of the last page is 56 - NINE images missing. I will look for the other seven missing images and report them to ancestry. Ancestry will have the missing images and I am sure they will add them to the site once they know of the problem. Margaret. -----Original Message----- From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of John Palmer Sent: 07 January 2007 13:34 To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1861 census incomplete pages Houghton-le-Spring Thanks Carol and Margaret. I have followed up your advice, Margaret, and it seems that pages 3 to 6 are missing from District 3 at Houghton. I will have to scrutinise the pages more carefully in future. I have reported these missing pages to Ancestry. But..... are there copies/transcriptions of the incomplete pages anywhere? John