Hi Quite a lot of my hubbys rellies come from Shields- Jacksons mainly. I have to rely on IGI and parish records when I visit South Shields. Ive found ancestry good for Leeds area re parish records but nothing in Durham Im afraid. happy hunting and bear in mind lots of South Shields people thought nothing of crossing the river to Tynemouth etc to get married- no idea why but they did! carol

In a message dated 19/01/2007 16:12:28 GMT Standard Time, PUTMAN914@aol.com writes: If anyone could give me a bit of advice, or any tips, websites, etc. that they use in their searches, ___________________________________________ See http://www.ndfhs.org.uk/ and http://www.ndfhs.org.uk/Sales/prices/NI_02.html Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 19/01/2007 16:12:28 GMT Standard Time, PUTMAN914@aol.com writes: If anyone could give me a bit of advice, or any tips, websites, etc. that they use in their searches, I would be grateful. ______________________________________________________________ Try http://www.genuki.org.uk/gs/Newbie.html and http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Search/frameset_search.asp Regards Stan Mapstone

I wonder if ANYONE would be so kind as to help me. I am "fairly" new to searching for my family tree. I have got to the stage where I have gone back in the censuses as far as I think I can, and I now need to look at Parish / Church Records. I have subscribed to Ancestry.co.uk and genesreunited, but I'm not at all sure if I am using Ancestry properly. I have tried to look at parish records and don't seem to be getting anywhere. I wonder if ANYONE would be kind enough to give me an "idiots" guide as to how to find people on the parish records. I have gone into this section, but don't seem to have much luck with anything. For instance, if a name comes up, how do you know if this is the correct person? If anyone could give me a bit of advice, or any tips, websites, etc. that they use in their searches, I would be grateful. My ancestors come mostly from South Shields, County Durham. I am at a bit of a loss as to how to look up the parish records. Regards Karen Hertfordshire, UK

Hello, Is there a place to search for Military records? I live in the USA and we have a site to search for people in the Military also our census states if a person served So I'm interested if my Perry family members served Perry family from Durham co Thomas, John David, Robert W Thanks Sherry

I would appreciate a lookup for Robert Charlton Davison born abt 1860 Gateshead wife: Francis Jane Davidson born abt 1869 Durham son: Thomas Davison born abt 1882 Durham, Collierley son: Robert W Davison born abt 1885 Durham, Collierley son: Jno Jas Davison born abt 1887 Durham, Collierley Thank you Sherry

Hello, any suggestions on tracing this family, below is what I know about them Frances Jane Perry born 1862 Lanchester (parents Thomas & Isabella Perry) married Mar 1879 Lanchester Robert Charlton Davison born Mar 1860 Gateshead their kids are Thomas Davison born abt 1882 Durham, Collierley Robert W Davison born abt 1885 Durham, Collierley Jno Jas Davison born abt 1887 Durham, Collierley (I have not been able to find birth dates for them) I have them in the 1881 census then in the 1891 Frances is living with her Mom (she is not widowed) I do not have them in the 1901 census I do not have any death dates for them either any help is appreciated Sherry

Hello Bette, Several reasons. The oldest used to be incomplete transcriptions of records, but FreeBMD are well on the way to having a complete set of the earlier records online. So a very well earned note of thanks to all transcribers is in order I would think. Then there are those that aren't easy to read and could be mistranscribed and appear with wrong page details. Then there are those that can't be read and don't appear at all on the page you want. Then there are those that are indexed wrongly at source by the GRO, for instance I have a Christiania that is recorded as Christopher in the index pages. If you send me details of your particular problem offline, I'll see if I can help. Regards, Colin ----- Original Message ----- From: Bette McIntosh To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 19, 2007 1:37 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] Freebmd entry > odd number of named persons Dear Listers, What can be or should be interpreted when an entry on the "Freebmd" website for a given date (Sept 1862) lists 3 individuals, two females & one male; an odd *man* out scenario. In this case, it's the extra female named that makes the odd number. There must be a simple explanation for this but I have yet to figure it out. Thank you, Bette

Dear Listers, What can be or should be interpreted when an entry on the "Freebmd" website for a given date (Sept 1862) lists 3 individuals, two females & one male; an odd *man* out scenario. In this case, it's the extra female named that makes the odd number. There must be a simple explanation for this but I have yet to figure it out. Thank you, Bette

Thanks for the information Helen, it sure gives me a lot to go off. I just wonder where I go wrong when I try to find anything. George Robson

In message <d62.23a5e3.32e08a06@aol.com>, Georger14738@aol.com writes >I wonder if anyone could give me any details on a Matthew Robson and his >wife Margaret nee Richardson.I know that when there son George Robson >was born >in 1837 they lived in Quarrington Hill, County Durham. I have looked on the >census in Ancestry.com and they are not coming up with anything. Any >information will be appreciated. >George Robson Hello George, From 1841 census HO107/313/13 folio 13 p 21 Quarrington Hill, Kelloe District DUR Matthew ROBSON 30 coal miner N Ann " 9 N Geo " 4 Y Ages of Adults are rounded down in this census so Matthew may be aged 30 -34. N means not born in Co. Durham. It is possible that Margaret had died, or she could be visiting elsewhere, as this census does not state whether married or widowed etc. 1851 census HO107/2391 fol 682 p 25 Cross Keys Inn, Coxhoe Hill, Coxhoe DUR Lodging with James TAYLOR: Matthew ROBSON widower 41 coal miner NBL Birtley? William " son 15 " " Durham Kelloe George " son 13 " " Durham Kelloe Durham Records online (Pay per view site) has the baptism of a William of Quarrington in the Easington District 1835. >From the IGI IGI Individual Record FamilySearch™ International Genealogical Index v5.0 ANN ROBSON Female ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Event(s): Birth: Christening: 08 APR 1832 Birtley, Northumberland, England ----------------------------------- Parents: Father: MATTHEW ROBSON Mother: MARGARET ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Messages: Extracted birth or christening record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the birth or christening date. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: P002441 1728 - 1861 0252549 Film 6905531 Film Marriage MATTHEW ROBSON Male Family Marriages: Spouse: MARGARET RICHARDSON Family Marriage: 05 JUN 1830 Birtley, Northumberland, England ---------------------------------------------------------------- Messages: Extracted marriage record for locality listed in the record. The source records are usually arranged chronologically by the marriage date. Source Information: Batch No.: Dates: Source Call No.: Type: Printout Call No.: Type: M002441 1767 - 1877 0252549 Film 6905532 Film There is a death registered in the right area: Deaths Mar 1839 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------- ROBSON Margaret Durham 24 43 When requesting the certificate you can ask if her husband's name is given as Matthew. Hope this helps. -- Helen Oram

Would love to hear from anyone with a connection to the following family found on the 1901 census : 22 St Michael's Road, Byker Joseph Sweeney age 30 born Workington, Cumberland - Slater Alice Smith age 25 born Great Yarmouth, Norfolk James Sweeney age 3 born Newcastle Joseph Sweeney age 1 born Newcastle Kind regards, Pauline

>My husband and I are finally going to plan the trip to England we >have always wanted to take. I would like some help, in the way of >tips, suggestions and advice,that would help us make the most of it. While it was suggested that answers offline may be preferable, I am sure there may be others who be would be interested in responses - this Aussie for one - so, if others don't want the responses to the list, maybe those offering advice could send me a copy as well - Thanks - Merrilyn Minter, Newcastle, NSW, Australia Researching: ATTENBOROUGH,COLLINS, SMEDLEY, DRAYCOTT Nottinghamshire; MINTER, Thanet Kent; MORPHEW -Lewisham and Dover, Kent LEWIS Herefordshire, Northumberland, Durham; McNAMEE, GIBSON Northumberland and Durham; GALLOWAY Strathmiglo and Kirkcaldy, Fife; EDMISTON, Strathmiglo; HIBBARD Barford St Martin, Wilts; HATHERLY, TICKNER, WILLMOTT Portsea, Ham ; SCOTT, GOULD Perthshire, Sct; THOMSON Stewarton, Ayr, Sct; CORBRIDGE Wakefield area, Yks ---- and more!!! See my tree on worldconnect! http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=merimint _________________________________________________________________ Advertisement: Fresh jobs daily. Stop waiting for the newspaper. Search now! www.seek.com.au http://a.ninemsn.com.au/b.aspx?URL=http%3A%2F%2Fninemsn%2Eseek%2Ecom%2Eau&_t=757263760&_r=Hotmail_EndText_Dec06&_m=EXT

I wonder if anyone could give me any details on a Matthew Robson and his wife Margaret nee Richardson.I know that when there son George Robson was born in 1837 they lived in Quarrington Hill, County Durham. I have looked on the census in Ancestry.com and they are not coming up with anything. Any information will be appreciated. George Robson

Dear Listers, The next time someone is in the Durham Record Office could they possibly look for a baptism of a Jonathan Wilson in the parish of Stanhope. I believe he was baptised in 1822. His parents were John and Mary. If you find it could you email me the details. I would go myself but I live in Dorset and a trip up to Durham is out of the question at the moment. Thank you for your time David Wilson.

Hi Sandy Pleased to hear that you are going to make your trip over here. I live about seven miles from Ryhope and Tunstall and would suggest that you find a B&B in Sunderland as your base while you are in the area. There are umpteen buses out to Ryhope and Tunstall, in fact they run every few minutes from the bus interchange, and the daily bus tickets are reasonably priced. So you shouldn't need to hire a car while in this area. As far as B&bs are concerned I have a couple of links that should help you to decide. http://www.southshields-sanddancers.co.uk/places_to_stay/sunderland_accommodation.htm http://www.touristnetuk.com/Ne/northumberland/accommodation/ac-serviced/sunderland.htm Hope this is useful for you. Susan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gar W Davidson" <gwdlehigh@rcn.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com>; <CUMBERLAND-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, January 17, 2007 12:52 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] England Trip - O.T. > Dear list members > > My husband and I are finally going to plan the trip to England we > have always wanted to take. I would like some help, in the way of > tips, suggestions and advice,that would help us make the most of it. > We are not rich americans but just working people and don't want to > wipe out a big portion of our savings. > The only real tourist -y thing we will do is probably two days in > London, Stonehenge. We want to spend most of our time in the > northeast. I don't think we want to stay in Hotels but prefer small > Bed and Breakfasts or guest houses, because I understand that that > is much cheaper. The idea is to stay where native's stay when they > visit other parts of Britain, as that would give more of a flavor of > the place and the people. We want to see Ryhope and Tunstall in > County Durham, Earsdon, and Murton in Northumberland and > Kirkmampton, Burg-by Sands, Kirkandrews and Beaumont area in in > Cumberland. These are the areas that my husband's family came from. > I would like to know if any of you can reccomend such accomodations > in these areas? A friend of mine told me that although you can book > ahead of time from here in the states, that she found that if she had > waited till she got over there and booked it would have been cheaper. > We haven't decided if we should take the railpass or rent a car. If > we get a railpass can we get to the areas we want to by bus real > easy? I would like to know other peoples experiences with these > ideas. ( Peter - I am looking forward to a few long e-mails from > you.) ( Ann - I think you can help me in your area.) Please feel > free to send me anything you want to that you think would help, off > list is just fine- probably preferable. > I thank you very much for your time and input. > > Sincerely > Sandy > Pensylvania U.S.A.

My grand parents Joseph Temperley And Margaret Ann nee Smith married 1906 had two children in England, one female who died in England, my father Thomas born 1909 Co Durham. They lived near Brandon and Joseph was a coal miner. Help is required to find the females name, birth date and date of death to complete this family tree. I am spoilt in NSW most births give the parents names. This is not the case in England ! Thanking you in advance Ralph

Hello Sandy: If you've never driven in the UK before, I certainly would recommend the train pass. I've used a train pass the last 2 summers and found it very convenient. It's much more convenient than if you lived in the UK and had to buy tickets. There are no restrictions on when and where you travel (except by country so if you plan on being in Scotland or Wales, you'll need to buy a different pass). There are also a lot of suburban trains that could suit you too. There is a branch that runs between Thornaby and Newcastle which has stops in Sunderland (for Tunstall) and Seaham Harbour (for Ryhope). I believe that trains are every hour or maybe every other hour outside of rush periods. It's very easy to check schedules on the internet. You have to consider how to get around between trains. I think bus and/or taxi in Co. Durham is practical and relatively cheap. And even inter-city buses are inexpensive. Last year I travelled from Sunderland to Manchester on a bus at a cost of 9 GBP (about $17). For country areas you'll need to rent a car but you might do that on an ad-hoc basis for day trips and the like. I can't help with specific B&Bs in this area because I always stay with relatives but the plan is a good one. This is what I do rather than a hotel. It certainly has its charms - I've stayed in some very interesting places including a 17th century farmhouse in Yorkshire. It's usually quite easy to find places and book when you arrive although you have to be careful if there's a local event which might fill up local accomodations. You might consider pubs too. Some pubs run a small hotel business on the side, so to speak, and I've had good experiences so far. Remember that a lot of the County Durham area you are interested in is post-industrial and only now starting to regain it's natural beauty. There have been attempts at restoration which are beginning to have an effect. There's a hiking trail along the cliffs from Sunderland to Blackhall (I think) and the views are spectacular. The whole trail is about 11 miles, I believe, but you could certainly do the section which includes Ryhope and Seaham. There are magnesium limestone cliffs down this coast line and it's quite impressive. I hope this helps, Irene Marlborough In Texas where it's currently sleeting and freezing!!!

John, thanks for your reply, I'm hoping apprenticeship papers will be available, but apparently no admission records are available for the Gateshead Union, so even with apprentice papers no parents will be known, but like you say, keep trying. Thanks Fred

George, In the majority of cases I have found that only the record of the baptism date is shown. However this very much depends upon the parish and minister who was doing the recording. If you are lucky then you will find two columns in the records showing both the date of birth and the baptism . In most cases when both are shown the dates are usually between 2-30 days apart but there appears to be no fixed rule this. Cheers Ian in Hong Kong ----- Original Message ----- From: <Georger14738@aol.com> To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2007 5:00 PMo this. Subject: [DUR-NBL] Parish Records > Could anyone please explain to me if the parish records before 1837 only > give the Babtisms or can you find out the date of the birth. Thanks in > advance. > Still have a lot to learn. > George >