Hello all, Can some one help me, I'm looking for a death for a William John PRIDDY . How can i find his death if he was Marine Engineer (Sea-Going). He married Elizabeth Pearson in 1925 and i no his death was before 1937, because of his wife's death certificate says she was a widow. Thank you.............Joanne

See http://www.mariners-l.co.uk/UKDeathsAtSea.html Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 26/01/2007 19:47:12 GMT Standard Time, threshold06@tiscali.co.uk writes: My g uncle died in Gallipoli, would he still have an entry in the English death registers please? ___________________________________________________________________________ Just to add that they are available through the ONS just like any other certificates, although I believe they do cost more. However, usually the Cause of Death is just Killed or Missing in action and the place of death is France; Belgium etc. Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 26/01/2007 19:47:12 GMT Standard Time, threshold06@tiscali.co.uk writes: My g uncle died in Gallipoli, would he still have an entry in the English death registers please? _________________________________________________________________ Yes, they are listed separately in the 'Miscellaneous' indexes, at the end of a full set of GRO indexes. The amount of information, though, is less than on a normal certificate Regards Stan Mapstone

I am re-sending the message below to the list becaue it bounced back at me for some reason that I don't understand. Apologies if you have already seen this message. HI Joan, I think you might find it useful to read up on the subject of Civil Registration at the genuki pages for England www.genuki.org.uk This site is a very useful one for all things genealogical. To get a copy of the birth certificate of your Alexander Landles, you first need to find the Birth registration in the GRO Index. You can't just ask the GRO, General Register Office, at Southport or the local district registrars office to send you the birth certificate, you have to give them not only the year of the birth but also the Quarter of that year in which the birth took place. The years are split into the 4 quarter and these quarters go by the last month of each of them, e.g. March Qtr. June Qtr., September Qtr and December Qtr. The country is split into Registration Districts each District covering a wide area of towns and villages . Another thing to bear in mind is that birth places, and ages, in the census are very often not correct. Ages can be out by a year or two, or even more, the birth place might be the place where that person remembers living as a child but might not be where he had actually been born. I found,on FreeBMD; what must be your Alexander Landles birth in June Qtr of 1854 at Alnwick Registrars District with the reference volume 10b page258 FreeBMD is at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ With the Year, Quarter, District name, Volume and Page numbers, plus of course the name of the child, you can now order a copy of this entry from the GRO via their website. The GRO website is at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ go to the section on the right of this page entitled Research and look for Ordering Certificates Online. You just carefully fill in the boxes with the information, make sure you check the box asking whether or not you have the Reference for the entry. You can pay for your order with your credit card on line here, no extra charge for postage and no need for a SAE. For future reference. FreeBMD is a transcript of the GRO index and is as yet not quite a complete transcript so you may find another time that you cannot find the entry you seek on the site. In that case you can search the GRO index itself at the Ancestry website free of charge, you do not need to be a subscriber to Ancestry to access this one index. www.ancestry.co.uk look for the link to UK Births Marriages and Deaths records. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > I have found my great Grandfather Alexander LANDLES born about 1854 on > the 1861 census born in place called Newton by the Sea Northumberland. > Which Registry Office should I send to for his birth certificate? > I know about the correct fee and to and to send a stamped addressed > envelope . I really need the nearest Registry Office.

Apologies if this message is received by you twice but I have had messages bouncing from the DUR-NBL list address over the past few days, even the Rootsweb help desk address bounced back at me. I am re-sending one or two messages to the list just in case they are of interest to anyone. Below is the text of one of these messages. Jenny DeAngelis. HI Sherry, I had a similar situation to Alison has in that one of my Gt. Grandmother married 3 times . She was born HETHERINGTON in Allendale Northumberland, married a CLEMENTSON and had 2 children by him, he died probably from lead poisoning as he was a lead miner. She then married another lead miner called STOBBS and had a further two children. Stobbs died and she married for the 3rd time to my Gt. Grandfather HIRST and they had just one child who was my grandmother. I have copies of all 3 marraige entries for my Gt. Grandmother each of which confirms it is the same person in each marriage. The birth certificate for my grandmother only shows her mother with the surname Hirst and not her former names, neither her married names nor maiden name. I only found out about her earlier marriages because I found her in the 1881 census with all 5 of her children, 2 Clementsons, 2 Stobbs as well as my grandma Hirst,living at West Hartlepool. I discovered this muddled family when I first began researching my family hisotry and being new to this hobby and not knowing anything about my family's past, I wondered what on earth was going on. So I traced those 4 earlier children back to their baptisms in Allendale and found the parents marriages and fathers deaths. Women left widowed with children would often re-marry fairly quickly, the need for someone to support her and her children often the most important reason for the re-marriage. If I were you I would try to find the mother in the census with her former husbands and also look to see if she has any children from that earlier marriage, as Alison says, she could have been married a further time so keep an eye open for children with yet another surname. Get copies of the marraige cert. for the marriage of Isabella Musgrove to Mr. Harrison, then the cert. for the marraige of Isabella Harrison to Mr. Perry. You don't give any sort of time frame for the birth certificate you have showing Isabella and her surnames, which makes it very difficult for the rest of us to be of much help. If you post a few dates and details of where you have Isabella born or living at any time it will help the rest of us to maybe pin her down if you need us to help in that way. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Sherry wrote:- >> I ordered a birth certificate and for the mother this is stated for her >> name >> Isabella Perry >> late Harrison >> formerly Musgrove > Alison wrote in reply:- > This means that Isabella was born Isabella Musgrove then married Mr > Harrison and then married Mr Perry. > It could be that Mr Harrison died or they were divorced. > I have a birth certificate that states the mother was Mary Nicholson > formerly Elliott. However, I know for sure that she married a Mr Wright > before she married Mr Nicholson and she may also have married a Mr Jackson > before that! So beware that sometimes some of a woman's married names can > be missed off the certificate.

Hello Listers I have found my great Grandfather Alexander LANDLES born about 1854 on the 1861 census born in place called Newton by the Sea Northumberland. Which Registry Office should I send to for his birth certificate? I know about the correct fee and to and to send a stamped addressed envelope . I really need the nearest Registry Office. Thank you Joan On The Central Coast Of N.S.W. Australia Also Researching. ANDERSON CARTER DIXON HAILS JOHNSON LANDLES / LANDELS Scotland, Northumberland, Durham PEACOCK.

>Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:34:43 -0500 >From: "SHERRY SHONDELMYER" <bobnsher3@verizon.net> >Subject: [DUR-NBL] where can I find place of burial >To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <001601c74096$567e7a70$2d01a8c0@yourb27fb1c401> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I need to find a place of burial for my family > I know ordering death cert would probably state burial place, As Stan says, it doesn't. > Thomas Perry died bet 1881-1891 >he was last living in Kyo Lane Head You need a copy of his death certificate to know where he was living when he died. A death for a Thomas Perry was registered in Morpeth during the September Quarter 1885, aged 63, which is about the right age. >Isabella Perry died bet 1891-1901 >she was last living in Southmoor Perhaps not, her son was living in Ashington in 1901, and there was a death registered, again in Morpeth, for an Isabella Perry during the March Quarter 1897, aged 74, which is also is about the right age. >I would hope she is buried with her husband Thomas If the above couple are the ones you are seeking, they might well be buried together. I suggest that you contact the Northumberland Record Office and see if they can assist you. Cheers ------ Philip

Morning All I have a bit of an oddity in my family tree that I want to try and get some more information on. Hopefully someone with access to Ancestry records in the US may be able to help. George Oughton was a miner in Hetton Le Hole, Durham. He had two children with his wife Isabella in Tudhoe and Hetton Le Hole. On the census returns it states that his next two daughters - Mary (abt 1868) and Ida (abt 1873) were born in La Salle Illinois. The next child was George and he was born back in Hetton Le Hole abt 1876. George and Isabella weren't particularly well off and would have struggled to pay the passage even as steerage passengers. Did they really go to Illinois? Was there a mining community there? How did they afford to travel home again? This is a real puzzle for us and would be hugely grateful for any thoughts or assistance on where to look next. Regards Net

In a message dated 26/01/2007 03:29:41 GMT Standard Time, joanie.carter@optusnet.com.au writes: I know about the correct fee and to and to send a stamped addressed envelope . I really need the nearest Registry Office. _____________________________________________________ Sorry, should have added that it was registered in Alnwick Regards Stan Mapstone

In a message dated 26/01/2007 03:29:41 GMT Standard Time, joanie.carter@optusnet.com.au writes: I really need the nearest Registry Office. _________________________________________________________ Why not order it online from http://www.col.statistics.gov.uk/ The birth was registered in the June ¼ 1854 GRO Ref. 10b 258. Regards Stan Mapstone

Dear List, I would just like to thank Jan Moore and Annette Watson, plus anyone else whose reply might have slipped under my radar, for their helpful advice and replies to my tongue-in-cheek but genuine enquiry re: the supplying of PR Transcripts from the above society to us poor and very distant convicts in the Great South Land. I will act upon your words with alacrity. Thank you one and all, Norm in NSW

Hello, I am a new lister and I'm hoping to find out more about Charles Hodgson and Margaret Marshall, who were married in 1786 at Brancepeth ( from the IGI). I think there is a strong possibility that the above are the parents of Sarah Hodgson, baptized at Sheffield St. Peter's in 1787. There were several other siblings of Charles and Margaret, all baptized in St Peter's, including Hugh Marshall Hodgson, bp in 1799. Another possible link to Durham with Sheffield is through the LAX family. I found a possible baptism for Margaret MARSHALL on the IGI, the mother being Sarah LAX. In the Sheffield census of 1841/51 there is a LAX family and the head of the family, Joseph, was born in Durham. What I would like to find out about Charles and Margaret is if they were from the parish and the names/occupations of their fathers. I have no other links with the area and don't know it at all, and as I live in Hampshire, it is too far away for me to travel to the DRO. Can anyone tell me if there are any transcripts of the marriages at Brancepeth for the above period that I could purchase ( fiche wouldn't be any good as I don't have a reader). Thanks, Jane

In a message dated 25/01/2007 15:36:53 GMT Standard Time, bobnsher3@verizon.net writes: I know ordering death cert would probably state burial place ______________________________________________ No, it won't. A death certificate does not show where the burial was. Regards Stan Mapstone

Hi This subject seems to have generated great interest. I have found on a dusty shelf two notebooks from 1965 when I was a student which I had to submit for a practical examination in Land Surveying. One is a level book which is a conventional notebook with a special ruling allowing for on site readings and the calculation of levels therefrom The other is a survey book which is narrow and bound at the top and has two "tramlines" running up the centre. The survey normally starts at the bottom of the page and works upwards with running (continuous) dimensions in the "tramlines" giving on either side the position of features and their distances from the survey line. If anyone would like examples from these books then I would be happy to try and provide them Doug Kyle On 23 Jan 2007 at 15:07, Lynda Shaughnessy wrote: To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com From: Lynda Shaughnessy <lynda.shaughnessy@blueyonder.co.uk> Date sent: Tue, 23 Jan 2007 15:07:50 +0000 Subject: [DUR-NBL] Mensuration Copy Books [ Double-click this line for list subscription options ] I have several copy books completed by my gt grandfather William Allison in 1846, he was 14 years old. The subjects covered are mainly land surveys, planting woods and division of fields, but there are also calculations for plasterers and roofers. These books are wonderful examples of layout and handwriting. I wonder if anyone can give me information as to why, and who they might have been produced for. Many thanks, Lynda ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== To Post a message to this list send it to, DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== List Web Page http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I need to find a place of burial for my family I know ordering death cert would probably state burial place, but I'm sure other's are like me that due to the cost, It's hard to get all the cert you need. so I'm hoping the that the churches/ cemetery's have records of burial I'm looking for Thomas Perry died bet 1881-1891 he was last living in Kyo Lane Head Isabella Perry died bet 1891-1901 she was last living in Southmoor I would hope she is buried with her husband Thomas I appreciate any help, I don't live in England so hoping some from these town's may know about the local churches / cemeteries Sherry

Hello, would someone help me with a census lookup the 1891 & 1901 William Thomas Hodgson wife: Sarah Isabella Musgrove born Dec 1851 Dipton, Durham I found on LDS site a marriage date for them 25 Dec 1880 Saint James, Gateshead, Durham, England Sarah's parents are John William Harrison & Isabella Musgrove I hope to find family of Sarah's Sherry

Hello everyone, I would like to hear from anyone who is famliar with the name of Robert Boyd BALLS. My maternal great grandfather was called Robert Boyd BALLS (1851-1900), who produced a son of the same name(1892-1978) and both died in South Shields. Many thanks Patrick in Durham City

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In a message dated 25/01/2007 10:55:53 GMT Standard Time, doug.kyle@tiscali.co.uk writes: If anyone would like examples from these books then I would be happy to try and provide them _________________________________________________________________ If anyone is interested I have put an example of a chain survey at http://hometown.aol.co.uk/stanmapstone/page22.html Regards Stan Mapstone