I have two HARRISON sisters MaryAnn born abt 1847 Durham Sarah born 1851 Durham they have a brother Benjamin Harrrison and in the 1901 census for Benjamin he has a nephew Adam Robson age 8 & niece Isabella Irving 4 so know I know the Harrison sister's married name. there is another brother Richard Musgrove Harrison father is John William Harrison mother is Isabella Musgrove I'm hoping someone may know of the ROBSON & IRVING names Sherry

One possibility would be to look at the National Burial Index at https://www.familyhistoryonline.net/login/login_submit.pl . You will need to register for free then you can search but there is a cost to see the record, about £0.18 per record. It does not have complete coverage but it's worth a look Derek Cuthbert SHERRY SHONDELMYER wrote: > I need to find a place of burial for my family > I know ordering death cert would probably state burial place, but I'm sure > other's are like me that due to the cost, It's hard to get all the cert you > need. > > so I'm hoping the that the churches/ cemetery's have records of burial > > I'm looking for > Thomas Perry died bet 1881-1891 > he was last living in Kyo Lane Head > > Isabella Perry died bet 1891-1901 > she was last living in Southmoor > > I would hope she is buried with her husband Thomas > I appreciate any help, I don't live in England so hoping some from these > town's may know about the local churches / cemeteries > > Sherry > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hello Bette, I also have ancestors from Wolfcleugh at Limestone Brae near Allendale. The name is Henderson, if there is any connection. Sally On Jan 28, 2007, at 12:02 AM, dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > Administrivia: > To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to > DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com > that contains in the body of the message the command > unsubscribe > and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software > requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > > To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Family Tree (relder@tiscali.co.uk) > 2. Marine deaths (PATRICIA HANDY) > 3. please help with names on 1901 census (SHERRY SHONDELMYER) > 4. 1891 census (SHERRY SHONDELMYER) > 5. Re: 1891 census (Ingrid Clausen) > 6. Re: please help with names on 1901 census > (Georger14738@aol.com) > 7. Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location (Bette McIntosh) > 8. Re: Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > (Stokeroker@aol.com) > 9. Re: Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location (Bette McIntosh) > 10. Re: Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location (Laurel Nattress) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 09:54:56 -0000 > From: <relder@tiscali.co.uk> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Family Tree > To: "DUR-NBL" <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000e01c741f9$33314e80$d6002a50@Elder> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Does anyone know if there is any web site that will let you down > load a blank standard family tree and put in you own names, I have > FTM 10 but it prints it out over 14 pages a bit to big for what I'm > after. I want to send it overseas > > Thanks > > Bob > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:22:54 +0000 (GMT) > From: PATRICIA HANDY <patriciahandy@btinternet.com> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Marine deaths > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <401474.25960.qm@web86008.mail.ird.yahoo.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Thank you to everyone who gave me advice on how to > find a death at sea, especially Jenny and Grenville. > > I have found the death but am now struggling with > finding details of the ship - The Mildred. > Can anyone help me with this one please? > > Patricia > Researching: > Carter - Herrington > Denton - Stllington/Norton/Stockton > Scott - Greatham > Suffield - Co Durham > Holland - Washington > Marriner - Washington > Coyle - Washington/Kilsyth > O'Neill - Kilsyth > Handy - Co Durham > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 3 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:24:23 -0500 > From: "SHERRY SHONDELMYER" <bobnsher3@verizon.net> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] please help with names on 1901 census > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00ba01c74237$fef8ef30$2d01a8c0@yourb27fb1c401> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > a kind person sent me a census image for > for Benjamin George Harrison 1901 living in Tanfield > and with him are a nephew & niece and I'm not sure of the names > I think the nephew is Adam Robson & niece is Isabella Loving > > > can someone look at the census and tell me if I'm correct > > Sherry > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 4 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 12:30:11 -0500 > From: "SHERRY SHONDELMYER" <bobnsher3@verizon.net> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] 1891 census > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <00c101c74238$cc7a7e10$2d01a8c0@yourb27fb1c401> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > I need the 1891 census Tanfield , Durham > > Richard M Harrison born abt 1854 durham Lanchester > wife Mary J > kids : Thomas M , Richard, John , Mary > > Sherry > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 5 > Date: Sun, 28 Jan 2007 06:42:51 +1300 > From: Ingrid Clausen <iclausen@paradise.net.nz> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] 1891 census > To: SHERRY SHONDELMYER <bobnsher3@verizon.net>, dur-nbl@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <001701c7423a$91c9b400$f108f6d2@quaycomputers> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 > > Hi Sherry, > > I have already sent you this census entry - Ref - RG12/4087; Folio 73 > > Ingrid, NZ > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "SHERRY SHONDELMYER" <bobnsher3@verizon.net> > To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:30 AM > Subject: [DUR-NBL] 1891 census > > >> I need the 1891 census Tanfield , Durham >> >> Richard M Harrison born abt 1854 durham Lanchester >> wife Mary J >> kids : Thomas M , Richard, John , Mary >> > Sherry >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes > in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 6 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:48:05 EST > From: Georger14738@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] please help with names on 1901 census > To: DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <c87.943793f.32ed0675@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > Sherry it is Isabella IRVING age 4 and Adam ROBSON age 8. Hope this > is of > some help. > George > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 7 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 14:28:37 -0600 > From: "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> > Subject: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <003701c74251$bc05f640$6501a8c0@owner5qmruj7lq> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > Dear Listers, > > I need help in locating the following places in the North East. I > assume that the county in question is Northumberland however there > is a chance these towns/villages could be in Co Durham or even > Cumberland.. > > Wolfe Cleugh > Whitely Shield > > I tried www.old-maps.co.uk with no success. > > Thank you, > Bette > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 8 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 16:09:02 EST > From: Stokeroker@aol.com > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <bdb.ec57c70.32ed196e@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > > > Bette, > Wolf Cleugh was a lead mine in Upper Weardale, County Durham. > Details of > which can be found on the Durham Mining Museum site at > _http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm_ (http://www.dmm.org.uk/ > colliery/w901.htm) > Whitely Shield was/is a farm near Carr Shield, details here: > _http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail? > readform&PRN=N7083_ > (http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail? > readform&PRN=N7083) > map here: > _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp_ > (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp) to the north of > Carr Shield and Blackett Terrace. > Regards, > Keith in the original Washington. > > In a message dated 27/01/2007 20:30:37 GMT Standard Time, > bmcintosh@new.rr.com writes: > > I need help in locating the following places in the North East. I > assume > that the county in question is Northumberland however there is a > chance these > towns/villages could be in Co Durham or even Cumberland.. > > Wolfe Cleugh > Whitely Shield > > I tried www.old-maps.co.uk with no success. > > Thank you, > Bette > > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 9 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 20:23:38 -0600 > From: "Bette McIntosh" <bmcintosh@new.rr.com> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > To: <Stokeroker@aol.com> > Cc: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <008901c74283$54a8b500$6501a8c0@owner5qmruj7lq> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > Keith, Thank you for the links. I had some difficulty making them > work but > managed to locate the place names using the points of reference > that you > mentioned in your message. > > I am a bit conflicted re the Wolfcleugh reference to Co. Durham > since I > have reason to believe the Wolfcleugh of my interest was in close > geographical proximity to Allendale, NBL; near to Ninebanks. The > map on the > Durham Mining Museum site would not display for me. > > I did fine with Whiteley Shield however. > > Best wishes, > Bette > > >> Wolf Cleugh was a lead mine in Upper Weardale, County Durham. >> Details of >> which can be found on the Durham Mining Museum site at >> _http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm_ >> (http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm) >> Whitely Shield was/is a farm near Carr Shield, details here: >> _http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail? >> readform&PRN=N7083_ >> (http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail? >> readform&PRN=N7083) >> map here: _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp_ >> (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp) to the north >> of Carr >> Shield and Blackett Terrace. >> Regards, >> Keith in the original Washington. > > > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 10 > Date: Sat, 27 Jan 2007 22:47:50 -0800 > From: "Laurel Nattress" <pember.lolly@verizon.net> > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > To: "DUR-NBL Mail List" <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <000d01c742a8$3b74fc90$2f01a8c0@Harriet> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=iso-8859-1; > reply-type=original > > Hi Bette, there is a Wolf Cleugh in West Allendale, NBL also. Since > Whitley > Shield is close to it, are you seeking info on ancestors who lived > there? I > might be able to help if you can let us know what/who you are > researching. I > am familiar with many of the families in the Allendale area. > > Thanks, Laurel Nattress > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <Stokeroker@aol.com> > To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:09 PM > Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > > >> >> Bette, >> Wolf Cleugh was a lead mine in Upper Weardale, County Durham. >> Details of >> which can be found on the Durham Mining Museum site at >> _http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm_ >> (http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm) >> Whitely Shield was/is a farm near Carr Shield, details here: >> _http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail? >> readform&PRN=N7083_ >> (http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail? >> readform&PRN=N7083) >> map here: >> _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp_ >> (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp) to the north >> of Carr >> Shield and Blackett Terrace. >> Regards, >> Keith in the original Washington. >> >> In a message dated 27/01/2007 20:30:37 GMT Standard Time, >> bmcintosh@new.rr.com writes: >> >> I need help in locating the following places in the North East. >> I assume >> that the county in question is Northumberland however there is a >> chance >> these >> towns/villages could be in Co Durham or even Cumberland.. >> >> Wolfe Cleugh >> Whitely Shield >> >> I tried www.old-maps.co.uk with no success. >> >> Thank you, >> Bette >> >> >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> To Post a message to this list send it to, >> DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com >> >> ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== >> List Web Page >> http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to > DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the DUR-NBL mailing list, send an email to DUR- > NBL@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL- > request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and > the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 40 > **************************************

Hello List- I am new to doing research in England and would appreciate your guidance in locating information on the STOKOE family. I found them listed in the 1841 England Census for Allendale, Northumberland. Please let me know how I can find family records for these STOKOE folks and their ancestors. I find that there were many with the same surname in Northumberland and would like to know how to sort them out. Below is an outline of our family.. our line is through great grandfather William who was born in Coal Clough in 1835 and his wife, Mary Ann. (They were last found in Middlesbrough, York in 1881.leaving soon after for USA.) I would like to eventually find burial places for Joseph and Sarah. Is STOKOE still a common name in the Allendale area? I would love to connect with others researching the STOKOE surname. Thank you for any assistance! Lorie (New Jersey, USA) Family of Joseph& Sarah Stokoe 1 Joseph Stokoe b: 1793 in Allendale, Northumberland . +Sarah b: 1792 in Alston, Cumberland ..... 2 Thomas Stokoe b: 1816 ..... 2 Isabella Stokoe b: 1821 ..... 2 John Stokoe b: 1821 ..... 2 Mary Stokoe b: 1826 in Alston, Cumberland ......... +Unknown Henderson d: Bef. 1851 ..... 2 Joseph Stokoe b: 1826 ..... 2 George Stokoe b: 1827 in Allendale, Northumberland ..... 2 Sarah Stokoe b: 1830 in Allendale, Northumberland ..... 2 Ann Stokoe b: 1832 in Allendale, Northumberland ..... 2 William Stokoe b: 1835 in Cold Clough, Cumberland, England d: 25 Aug 1891 in Michigan ......... +Mary Ann Scott b: 1837 in Durham, England d: 13 Sep 1913 in Michigan

Hi Sherry, I have already sent you this census entry - Ref - RG12/4087; Folio 73 Ingrid, NZ ----- Original Message ----- From: "SHERRY SHONDELMYER" <bobnsher3@verizon.net> To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 28, 2007 6:30 AM Subject: [DUR-NBL] 1891 census > I need the 1891 census Tanfield , Durham > > Richard M Harrison born abt 1854 durham Lanchester > wife Mary J > kids : Thomas M , Richard, John , Mary > Sherry > > > > > > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Bette There is a Coalcleugh in the area you speak of near Allenheads and Alston. Have a look at this link to an Ordnance Survey map of the location. _http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName= p&gazString=NENTHEAD_ (http://getamap.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/getamap/frames.htm?mapAction=gaz&gazName=p&gazString=NENTHEAD) Coalcleugh is only a couple of farms now, it was once a busy lead mining centre. Also look fo it on maps within the triangle of Alston, Allendale and Allenheads...Regards...Shaun

Hi Bette, there is a Wolf Cleugh in West Allendale, NBL also. Since Whitley Shield is close to it, are you seeking info on ancestors who lived there? I might be able to help if you can let us know what/who you are researching. I am familiar with many of the families in the Allendale area. Thanks, Laurel Nattress ----- Original Message ----- From: <Stokeroker@aol.com> To: <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2007 1:09 PM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Wolfe Cleugh & Whitely Shield > location > > Bette, > Wolf Cleugh was a lead mine in Upper Weardale, County Durham. Details of > which can be found on the Durham Mining Museum site at > _http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm_ > (http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm) > Whitely Shield was/is a farm near Carr Shield, details here: > _http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail?readform&PRN=N7083_ > (http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail?readform&PRN=N7083) > map here: > _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp_ > (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp) to the north of Carr > Shield and Blackett Terrace. > Regards, > Keith in the original Washington. > > In a message dated 27/01/2007 20:30:37 GMT Standard Time, > bmcintosh@new.rr.com writes: > > I need help in locating the following places in the North East. I assume > that the county in question is Northumberland however there is a chance > these > towns/villages could be in Co Durham or even Cumberland.. > > Wolfe Cleugh > Whitely Shield > > I tried www.old-maps.co.uk with no success. > > Thank you, > Bette > > > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > To Post a message to this list send it to, > DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com > > ==== DUR-NBL Mailing List ==== > List Web Page > http://www.communigate.co.uk/ne/durhamgenealogy/index.phtml > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Keith, Thank you for the links. I had some difficulty making them work but managed to locate the place names using the points of reference that you mentioned in your message. I am a bit conflicted re the Wolfcleugh reference to Co. Durham since I have reason to believe the Wolfcleugh of my interest was in close geographical proximity to Allendale, NBL; near to Ninebanks. The map on the Durham Mining Museum site would not display for me. I did fine with Whiteley Shield however. Best wishes, Bette > Wolf Cleugh was a lead mine in Upper Weardale, County Durham. Details of > which can be found on the Durham Mining Museum site at > _http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm_ > (http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm) > Whitely Shield was/is a farm near Carr Shield, details here: > _http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail?readform&PRN=N7083_ > (http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail?readform&PRN=N7083) > map here: _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp_ > (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp) to the north of Carr > Shield and Blackett Terrace. > Regards, > Keith in the original Washington.

Thank you to everyone who gave me advice on how to find a death at sea, especially Jenny and Grenville. I have found the death but am now struggling with finding details of the ship - The Mildred. Can anyone help me with this one please? Patricia Researching: Carter - Herrington Denton - Stllington/Norton/Stockton Scott - Greatham Suffield - Co Durham Holland - Washington Marriner - Washington Coyle - Washington/Kilsyth O'Neill - Kilsyth Handy - Co Durham

Bette, Wolf Cleugh was a lead mine in Upper Weardale, County Durham. Details of which can be found on the Durham Mining Museum site at _http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm_ (http://www.dmm.org.uk/colliery/w901.htm) Whitely Shield was/is a farm near Carr Shield, details here: _http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail?readform&PRN=N7083_ (http://www.durham.gov.uk/durhamcc/K2P.nsf/K2PDetail?readform&PRN=N7083) map here: _http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp_ (http://www.old-maps.co.uk/oldmaps/large_ind.jsp) to the north of Carr Shield and Blackett Terrace. Regards, Keith in the original Washington. In a message dated 27/01/2007 20:30:37 GMT Standard Time, bmcintosh@new.rr.com writes: I need help in locating the following places in the North East. I assume that the county in question is Northumberland however there is a chance these towns/villages could be in Co Durham or even Cumberland.. Wolfe Cleugh Whitely Shield I tried www.old-maps.co.uk with no success. Thank you, Bette

Sherry it is Isabella IRVING age 4 and Adam ROBSON age 8. Hope this is of some help. George

Dear Listers, I need help in locating the following places in the North East. I assume that the county in question is Northumberland however there is a chance these towns/villages could be in Co Durham or even Cumberland.. Wolfe Cleugh Whitely Shield I tried www.old-maps.co.uk with no success. Thank you, Bette

I need the 1891 census Tanfield , Durham Richard M Harrison born abt 1854 durham Lanchester wife Mary J kids : Thomas M , Richard, John , Mary Sherry

a kind person sent me a census image for for Benjamin George Harrison 1901 living in Tanfield and with him are a nephew & niece and I'm not sure of the names I think the nephew is Adam Robson & niece is Isabella Loving can someone look at the census and tell me if I'm correct Sherry

Thank you to everyone you gave me the information re getting certificates on line. I have replied to all off line. Joan

Does anyone know if there is any web site that will let you down load a blank standard family tree and put in you own names, I have FTM 10 but it prints it out over 14 pages a bit to big for what I'm after. I want to send it overseas Thanks Bob

My maternal granmother remarried, to a patrick Mullany, who was a Miner from Easington, County Durham, and I remember him telling me about his time coal mining in America. Best Regards Gordon Clark

Net Checkout the link at http://www.isgs.uiuc.edu/coalsec/coal/mines_series/pdf_mines_directories/min es_dir_lasalle.pdf. Only very few mines existed in LaSalle Il at that point in time. Other resources at the same site can show the location of the mine and surrounding towns. Best Don Harker Gurnee, IL -----Original Message----- From: dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:dur-nbl-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dur-nbl-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, January 26, 2007 3:03 PM To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Subject: DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 38 Administrivia: To unsubscribe from DUR-NBL-D, send a message to DUR-NBL-D-request@rootsweb.com that contains in the body of the message the command unsubscribe and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. To contact the DUR-NBL-D list administrator, send mail to DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. Today's Topics: 1. Re: Birth certificate (Stanmapstone@aol.com) 2. Mining Links in La Salle Illinois? (Net A) 3. Re: Where can I find place of burial (Philip Phipps) 4. Question (Jenny De Angelis) 5. Birth certificate (Jenny De Angelis) 6. Re: Birth certificate (Stanmapstone@AOL.COM) 7. Death's at sea (joe) 8. Parish Lists (Judy Bleay) 9. Re: People who died overseas at war (pentiscali) 10. Re: People who died overseas at war (Stanmapstone@aol.com) 11. Re: People who died overseas at war (Stanmapstone@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:17:23 EST From: Stanmapstone@aol.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Birth certificate To: joanie.carter@optusnet.com.au, DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <c20.dddaa89.32eb2123@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 26/01/2007 03:29:41 GMT Standard Time, joanie.carter@optusnet.com.au writes: I know about the correct fee and to and to send a stamped addressed envelope . I really need the nearest Registry Office. _____________________________________________________ Sorry, should have added that it was registered in Alnwick Regards Stan Mapstone ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 09:52:41 +0000 (GMT) From: Net A <net.ambler@btinternet.com> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Mining Links in La Salle Illinois? To: DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20070126095241.42124.qmail@web86709.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ascii Morning All I have a bit of an oddity in my family tree that I want to try and get some more information on. Hopefully someone with access to Ancestry records in the US may be able to help. George Oughton was a miner in Hetton Le Hole, Durham. He had two children with his wife Isabella in Tudhoe and Hetton Le Hole. On the census returns it states that his next two daughters - Mary (abt 1868) and Ida (abt 1873) were born in La Salle Illinois. The next child was George and he was born back in Hetton Le Hole abt 1876. George and Isabella weren't particularly well off and would have struggled to pay the passage even as steerage passengers. Did they really go to Illinois? Was there a mining community there? How did they afford to travel home again? This is a real puzzle for us and would be hugely grateful for any thoughts or assistance on where to look next. Regards Net ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 13:39:31 +0000 From: Philip Phipps <philip@konti.demon.co.uk> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Where can I find place of burial To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <vhxvf7BTSguFFwYR@konti.demon.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain;charset=us-ascii;format=flowed >Message: 7 >Date: Thu, 25 Jan 2007 10:34:43 -0500 >From: "SHERRY SHONDELMYER" <bobnsher3@verizon.net> >Subject: [DUR-NBL] where can I find place of burial >To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> >Message-ID: <001601c74096$567e7a70$2d01a8c0@yourb27fb1c401> >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > >I need to find a place of burial for my family > I know ordering death cert would probably state burial place, As Stan says, it doesn't. > Thomas Perry died bet 1881-1891 >he was last living in Kyo Lane Head You need a copy of his death certificate to know where he was living when he died. A death for a Thomas Perry was registered in Morpeth during the September Quarter 1885, aged 63, which is about the right age. >Isabella Perry died bet 1891-1901 >she was last living in Southmoor Perhaps not, her son was living in Ashington in 1901, and there was a death registered, again in Morpeth, for an Isabella Perry during the March Quarter 1897, aged 74, which is also is about the right age. >I would hope she is buried with her husband Thomas If the above couple are the ones you are seeking, they might well be buried together. I suggest that you contact the Northumberland Record Office and see if they can assist you. Cheers ------ Philip ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:34:14 +0100 From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@terra.es> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Question To: "DUR-NBL Mailing List" <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <03b201c74157$701234b0$0301a8c0@portable> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response Apologies if this message is received by you twice but I have had messages bouncing from the DUR-NBL list address over the past few days, even the Rootsweb help desk address bounced back at me. I am re-sending one or two messages to the list just in case they are of interest to anyone. Below is the text of one of these messages. Jenny DeAngelis. HI Sherry, I had a similar situation to Alison has in that one of my Gt. Grandmother married 3 times . She was born HETHERINGTON in Allendale Northumberland, married a CLEMENTSON and had 2 children by him, he died probably from lead poisoning as he was a lead miner. She then married another lead miner called STOBBS and had a further two children. Stobbs died and she married for the 3rd time to my Gt. Grandfather HIRST and they had just one child who was my grandmother. I have copies of all 3 marraige entries for my Gt. Grandmother each of which confirms it is the same person in each marriage. The birth certificate for my grandmother only shows her mother with the surname Hirst and not her former names, neither her married names nor maiden name. I only found out about her earlier marriages because I found her in the 1881 census with all 5 of her children, 2 Clementsons, 2 Stobbs as well as my grandma Hirst,living at West Hartlepool. I discovered this muddled family when I first began researching my family hisotry and being new to this hobby and not knowing anything about my family's past, I wondered what on earth was going on. So I traced those 4 earlier children back to their baptisms in Allendale and found the parents marriages and fathers deaths. Women left widowed with children would often re-marry fairly quickly, the need for someone to support her and her children often the most important reason for the re-marriage. If I were you I would try to find the mother in the census with her former husbands and also look to see if she has any children from that earlier marriage, as Alison says, she could have been married a further time so keep an eye open for children with yet another surname. Get copies of the marraige cert. for the marriage of Isabella Musgrove to Mr. Harrison, then the cert. for the marraige of Isabella Harrison to Mr. Perry. You don't give any sort of time frame for the birth certificate you have showing Isabella and her surnames, which makes it very difficult for the rest of us to be of much help. If you post a few dates and details of where you have Isabella born or living at any time it will help the rest of us to maybe pin her down if you need us to help in that way. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. Sherry wrote:- >> I ordered a birth certificate and for the mother this is stated for her >> name >> Isabella Perry >> late Harrison >> formerly Musgrove > Alison wrote in reply:- > This means that Isabella was born Isabella Musgrove then married Mr > Harrison and then married Mr Perry. > It could be that Mr Harrison died or they were divorced. > I have a birth certificate that states the mother was Mary Nicholson > formerly Elliott. However, I know for sure that she married a Mr Wright > before she married Mr Nicholson and she may also have married a Mr Jackson > before that! So beware that sometimes some of a woman's married names can > be missed off the certificate. ------------------------------ Message: 5 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:39:32 +0100 From: "Jenny De Angelis" <jennyda@terra.es> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Birth certificate To: "DUR-NBL Mailing List" <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <03bd01c74157$cd629a60$0301a8c0@portable> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=response I am re-sending the message below to the list becaue it bounced back at me for some reason that I don't understand. Apologies if you have already seen this message. HI Joan, I think you might find it useful to read up on the subject of Civil Registration at the genuki pages for England www.genuki.org.uk This site is a very useful one for all things genealogical. To get a copy of the birth certificate of your Alexander Landles, you first need to find the Birth registration in the GRO Index. You can't just ask the GRO, General Register Office, at Southport or the local district registrars office to send you the birth certificate, you have to give them not only the year of the birth but also the Quarter of that year in which the birth took place. The years are split into the 4 quarter and these quarters go by the last month of each of them, e.g. March Qtr. June Qtr., September Qtr and December Qtr. The country is split into Registration Districts each District covering a wide area of towns and villages . Another thing to bear in mind is that birth places, and ages, in the census are very often not correct. Ages can be out by a year or two, or even more, the birth place might be the place where that person remembers living as a child but might not be where he had actually been born. I found,on FreeBMD; what must be your Alexander Landles birth in June Qtr of 1854 at Alnwick Registrars District with the reference volume 10b page258 FreeBMD is at http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ With the Year, Quarter, District name, Volume and Page numbers, plus of course the name of the child, you can now order a copy of this entry from the GRO via their website. The GRO website is at http://www.gro.gov.uk/gro/content/ go to the section on the right of this page entitled Research and look for Ordering Certificates Online. You just carefully fill in the boxes with the information, make sure you check the box asking whether or not you have the Reference for the entry. You can pay for your order with your credit card on line here, no extra charge for postage and no need for a SAE. For future reference. FreeBMD is a transcript of the GRO index and is as yet not quite a complete transcript so you may find another time that you cannot find the entry you seek on the site. In that case you can search the GRO index itself at the Ancestry website free of charge, you do not need to be a subscriber to Ancestry to access this one index. www.ancestry.co.uk look for the link to UK Births Marriages and Deaths records. Regards Jenny DeAngelis. Spain. > I have found my great Grandfather Alexander LANDLES born about 1854 on > the 1861 census born in place called Newton by the Sea Northumberland. > Which Registry Office should I send to for his birth certificate? > I know about the correct fee and to and to send a stamped addressed > envelope . I really need the nearest Registry Office. ------------------------------ Message: 6 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 04:09:28 EST From: Stanmapstone@AOL.COM Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] Birth certificate To: joanie.carter@optusnet.com.au, DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <cab.94fbee8.32eb1f48@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-1" In a message dated 26/01/2007 03:29:41 GMT Standard Time, joanie.carter@optusnet.com.au writes: I really need the nearest Registry Office. _________________________________________________________ Why not order it online from http://www.col.statistics.gov.uk/ The birth was registered in the June ? 1854 GRO Ref. 10b 258. Regards Stan Mapstone ------------------------------ Message: 7 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 17:02:04 -0000 From: "joe" <j.pearson93@ntlworld.com> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Death's at sea To: <DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <002e01c7416b$b5abcdb0$9865fea9@family> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hello all, Can some one help me, I'm looking for a death for a William John PRIDDY . How can i find his death if he was Marine Engineer (Sea-Going). He married Elizabeth Pearson in 1925 and i no his death was before 1937, because of his wife's death certificate says she was a widow. Thank you.............Joanne ------------------------------ Message: 8 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:45:17 -0000 From: "Judy Bleay" <judybleay@btinternet.com> Subject: [DUR-NBL] Parish Lists To: "DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb. com " <DUR-NBL-L@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000201c74182$81e1eed0$0301a8c0@oemcomputer> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="windows-1250" Dear Harry, many thanks for pointing out these map links, although I knew the maps were there I must admit I didn't realise that you could click on the parishes to get to the link with all the information on - thats very helpful Thanks Judy Bleay Cornwall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: 24 Jan 2007 18:48 ------------------------------ Message: 9 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 19:30:27 -0000 From: "pentiscali" <threshold06@tiscali.co.uk> Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] People who died overseas at war To: <dur-nbl@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <004601c74180$6f502090$0102a8c0@computername> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Sorry if this is a bit of a thick question, but I haven't had to think about it before. My g uncle died in Gallipoli, would he still have an entry in the English death registers please? My husband said how on earth would they prove his estate without a death cert. I cant find him in there though. Thanks, pennie ------------------------------ Message: 10 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 15:54:52 EST From: Stanmapstone@aol.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] People who died overseas at war To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <ca9.8f3c95f.32ebc49c@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 26/01/2007 19:47:12 GMT Standard Time, threshold06@tiscali.co.uk writes: My g uncle died in Gallipoli, would he still have an entry in the English death registers please? _________________________________________________________________ Yes, they are listed separately in the 'Miscellaneous' indexes, at the end of a full set of GRO indexes. The amount of information, though, is less than on a normal certificate Regards Stan Mapstone ------------------------------ Message: 11 Date: Fri, 26 Jan 2007 16:02:37 EST From: Stanmapstone@aol.com Subject: Re: [DUR-NBL] People who died overseas at war To: dur-nbl@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <d24.5e5324b.32ebc66d@aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" In a message dated 26/01/2007 19:47:12 GMT Standard Time, threshold06@tiscali.co.uk writes: My g uncle died in Gallipoli, would he still have an entry in the English death registers please? ___________________________________________________________________________ Just to add that they are available through the ONS just like any other certificates, although I believe they do cost more. However, usually the Cause of Death is just Killed or Missing in action and the place of death is France; Belgium etc. Regards Stan Mapstone ------------------------------ To contact the DUR-NBL list administrator, send an email to DUR-NBL-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the DUR-NBL mailing list, send an email to DUR-NBL@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to DUR-NBL-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of DUR-NBL Digest, Vol 2, Issue 38 **************************************

Dear Harry, many thanks for pointing out these map links, although I knew the maps were there I must admit I didn't realise that you could click on the parishes to get to the link with all the information on - thats very helpful Thanks Judy Bleay Cornwall -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.17.10/651 - Release Date: 24 Jan 2007 18:48

Sorry if this is a bit of a thick question, but I haven't had to think about it before. My g uncle died in Gallipoli, would he still have an entry in the English death registers please? My husband said how on earth would they prove his estate without a death cert. I cant find him in there though. Thanks, pennie